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Freezing is not the same thing as cutting.
That was not the Democrat stance in the ‘95 budget debates, when increases in spending less than previously projected were”cuts”.
 
Was at a dinner tonight in the Midwest (Illinois). At the table was a military person who seemed very knowledgable and down to earth. He thought we might have a 14 day lock-down beginning tomorrow. If that is true, it will probably happen everywhere. He talked roadblocks and needing an ID to get to work (doctor, nurses, etc). Just passing this along. I did go to the grocery store tonight.
In a “so and so whose relative works at the CDC” text I got 45 minutes ago.....hearing the exact same scenario though starting date was not mentioned.
 
I’m 57 years old and over the last 4 months I’ve been having tests on a growth in one of my lungs. In February, a PET scan diagnosed it as cancerous. On March 5th, they went down my throat with a scope and collected secretions around the area but could not get a sample from the growth itself because they were afraid the lung would collapse.

The pathology test on the secretions says the growth is not cancerous which was also the opinion of the pulmonary specialist who did the scope test. That’s naturally a great relief. Up next is a needle biopsy to get a sample of the growth to confirm it’s not cancerous and do other tests to see what it might be. The needle test has an even higher risk of collapsing my lung than the bronchoscopy which it why the scope was done first. But, it must be done because the PET scan wouldn’t have shown it as positive if it wasn’t cancerous, an infection of some type or an autoimmune problem. By the way, aside from an irregular cough, I have no symptoms of anything and feel generally okay.

All of this is unnerving enough as it is. But, then you throw in that I’m living and working in the midst of a respiratory virus pandemic, and it is even more so. I’m not sure my chances are good for fighting it off if I should contract it. I can’t just tell my employer that I’m just going to stay home and protect myself. I need the job to pay my bills and, as important, I need the health insurance I have from my job to treat whatever it is that I have. These are just scary days.
Take care Kenneth, you have support here. Keep checking in.
 
That was not the Democrat stance in the ‘95 budget debates, when increases in spending less than previously projected were”cuts”.
In clips I have watched (admittedly, there are probably some I have not), Biden uses freeze so technically, he can say he didn't invoke the word 'cuts'. And honestly, I suspect very few voters would actually care about what his stance was in budget debates some 20 years ago.
 
A 14-day lockdown doesn't seem like it would be that effective. What happens with testing during the 14 days. Is this just an excuse because testing won't be available for at least 14 days?
 
A 14-day lockdown doesn't seem like it would be that effective. What happens with testing during the 14 days. Is this just an excuse because testing won't be available for at least 14 days?

A 14 day, or even 10 day, lockdown would do a ton to slow the advance but inevitably some schmucks will go out and spread the virus, unknowningly, and it'll still get out there. But if we can slow down the pace of the spread we can limit the impact of only having 925k hospital beds in a nation of 325 million.
 
A 14 day, or even 10 day, lockdown would do a ton to slow the advance but inevitably some schmucks will go out and spread the virus, unknowningly, and it'll still get out there. But if we can slow down the pace of the spread we can limit the impact of only having 925k hospital beds in a nation of 325 million.


Call me crazy but the chinese were building hospitals on the fly, in parking lots and wheteever.

I'm not worried about we5her or not I can be seen.

I'm worried about if I personally were to need a machine to live wether that machine exist or not.
 
A 14 day, or even 10 day, lockdown would do a ton to slow the advance but inevitably some schmucks will go out and spread the virus, unknowningly, and it'll still get out there. But if we can slow down the pace of the spread we can limit the impact of only having 925k hospital beds in a nation of 325 million.
There is a reason we have so few hospital beds
- people are hospitalized at a lower rate for less time than in the past. We sure are not going to keep an extra 4 million lying around empty (and the staff to go with them) for a once in a hundred year event. Unless you want your health insurance premium to be 3 times larger.
 
There is a reason we have so few hospital beds
- people are hospitalized at a lower rate for less time than in the past. We sure are not going to keep an extra 4 million lying around empty (and the staff to go with them) for a once in a hundred year event. Unless you want your health insurance premium to be 3 times larger.

This is a great argument against the attack on # of hospital beds I wasn't making.
 
Call me crazy but the chinese were building hospitals on the fly, in parking lots and wheteever.

I'm not worried about we5her or not I can be seen.

I'm worried about if I personally were to need a machine to live wether that machine exist or not.
A perfectly reasonable concern - and likely unfixable for a rare event. People may be dying in Italy due to lack of ventilators, and certainly did in China.
 
A 14 day, or even 10 day, lockdown would do a ton to slow the advance but inevitably some schmucks will go out and spread the virus, unknowningly, and it'll still get out there. But if we can slow down the pace of the spread we can limit the impact of only having 925k hospital beds in a nation of 325 million.
What I meant was assuming the lockdown was perfect you would still have people that contracted the virus "during the latter part of the 14 days" so they would come out still spreading it. In addition, the virus will still be out there amongst the LE/military enforcing the lockdown or the Drs and nurses, grocery workers, etc.

I agree though that it would help to slow it down. This is some crazy shyt.
 
My RN wife just got home from the hospital to report:

* Approximately 20 coronavirus patients have been admitted and are being treated in individual rooms (300-bed hospital).
* People coming to the ER with minor health concerns are being turned away.
* No visitors are allowed to enter the building.
* Drive-up testing supposedly is scheduled to start today.
 
My RN wife just got home from the hospital to report:

* Approximately 20 coronavirus patients have been admitted and are being treated in individual rooms (300-bed hospital).
* People coming to the ER with minor health concerns are being turned away.
* No visitors are allowed to enter the building.
* Drive-up testing supposedly is scheduled to start today.
How do they know the 20 have the virus?
 
How do they know the 20 have the virus?
They're showing symptoms and are in various stages of being tested. The protocol is if they show symptoms and need to be admitted they're treated as if they have it pending confirmation.
 
They're showing symptoms and are in various stages of being tested. The protocol is if they show symptoms and need to be admitted they're treated as if they have it pending confirmation.
Yes, they call it “presumptive Covid-19” because based on symptoms it’s presumed to be what they have.

What is the catchment area of the hospital that is getting that influx of patients?
 
Well goodnight all and good luck this week.

It might be one if the most insane weeks in the history of this country. Just think that Tom Brady could leave the Patriots and it would just be a footnote relative to everything else that happens.

Stay safe and be well!
 
ut there have been (once again) "creative liberties" taken with the truth. Google does not have 1700 engineers working on a Website right about ready to go live for everybody... they have a subsidiary with nowhere near 1700 anythings working on it, not going live except for the SF Bay area, and in beta not production. It was intended for medical personnel and was presented as being for the general public. Who knows what they're trying to spin into what (and everybody, traders included, have gotten wise to the spin cycle.)

Again, nothing at all meant to be about bagging on the poster, or implying any intent or any ill will on his part, but just to demonstrate:

Here's another post that serves a great example for the importance of context, waiting until the facts are known (especially with today's heavily biased media striving to influence opinion), and striving for accuracy rather than gotcha moments, in a thread like this.

Trump's Google announcement raises questions

COVID-19: How we’re continuing to help
 
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Well goodnight all and good luck this week.

It might be one if the most insane weeks in the history of this country. Just think that Tom Brady could leave the Patriots and it would just be a footnote relative to everything else that happens.

Stay safe and be well!

You as well. It’s gonna be a bumpy ride and I pray we survive it. Keep you head on a swivel and be wary of the wolves.
 
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