E!SPN new Deflategate article

Jlaff · Jan 18, 2020

Deus Irae said:
It's never going to go away. You're arguing that commentary will lessen over time. That's to be expected. Commentary on almost everything lessens over time. That's not the same as saying that the narrative will be changed, wrongs will be made right, or anything like that.

Only way the narrative would have changed is if Kraft could establish fraudulent conduct by the NFL in court.

aluminum seats · Jan 18, 2020

OK, now let’s have a similar article about how asinine the penalty was for having a camera in the wrong place on the sideline in “spygate...”

Deus Irae · Jan 18, 2020

Jlaff said:
Only way the narrative would have changed is if Kraft could establish fraudulent conduct by the NFL in court.

For some, nothing can change the narrative. History makes that very clear.

turkeyneck · Jan 18, 2020

"Did the NFL learn anything from it?" Weasely question wording from sports so-called jounalism. Why single out the NFL as if sportswriters themselves are pristinely independent of the whole fiasco?

Oh, and by the way, did anything ever happen to the NFL employee who stole the kicking balls in the Pats/Ravens game and replaced them with new uninflated balls? It was that event that got Harbaugh wound up about under-inflated balls. The whole mess had its genesis in the behavior of a crooked NFL employee.

stinkypete · Jan 18, 2020

ESPN claiming today that deflategate was not a big deal is the equivalent of the catholic church absolving Galleleo.

chris_in_sunnyvale · Jan 18, 2020

I'm curious to see if Goodell gets booed during the trophy presentation this year despite no Pats fans in attendance. Has he sunk to Bettman-like levels of disapproval league-wide? Or maybe the last 3 Super Bowls instilled the idea that it's just fun to boo the guy.

Regards,
Chris

Actual Pats Fan · Jan 18, 2020

blackglass3 said:
Here is the link if you want to give them the click. It basically boils down to "Houston was REALLY cheating, we're not sure if the Patriots did anything".

NOW you post this, 5 years later? Good God. It might change a mind or two, which is fine. But where was this critical thinking the week of and the weeks after this was all going down?

What really happened during Deflategate? Five years later, the NFL's 'scandal' aged poorly

Well, yeah, you know, those Japanese internment camps may not have been such a good idea after all...and you get the sort of feeling that there's a chance that all those multigenerational, assimilated, English speaking, innocent, law abiding, loyal American families just maybe possibly might not have been foreign spies...it's not a "good look" for the U.S.

Actual Pats Fan · Jan 18, 2020

chris_in_sunnyvale said:
I'm curious to see if Goodell gets booed during the trophy presentation this year despite no Pats fans in attendance. Has he sunk to Bettman-like levels of disapproval league-wide? Or maybe the last 3 Super Bowls instilled the idea that it's just fun to boo the guy.

Regards,
Chris

He is booed for his endorsement of domestic violence, and cheered for everything he does to the Patriots

Tony2046 · Jan 18, 2020

Todd Bradley said:
Deflategate motivated Brady over the last 5 years.

In the end, the only ones who lost were the other 31 teams, while the GOAT padded two more rings and another Super Bowl appearance to his immortal legacy.

Sweet success stemming from stupidity. Got to love it.

It was the worst possible outcome for Roger.

Tottie · Jan 18, 2020

They can say whatever they want they still conspired with the NFL to drive a narrative and will never be forgiven by our fanbase. Not that they care.

When you find yourself getting upset over it, just watch this:

gg Go0dell.

RelocatedPatFan · Jan 18, 2020

Ice_Ice_Brady said:
The rest of the media was fed large amounts of bullsht by the NFL’s propaganda machine. Fake ball numbers, fake science reports, fake “independent” investigation, fake accusations about what Brady did during investigation

Don’t forget the deflation wasn't natural. Proven by the very same organization that proved second hand smoke and asbestos doesn’t cause cancer.

EDIT: Yeah - was should have been waasn't

Tony2046 · Jan 18, 2020

Doctor DDS said:
The fact that the NFL went out of their way to "prove" the narrative they wanted is what still baffles me. Are the other owners truly that vindictive that they are willing to bring into question the integrity of their own league by creating a sham report (rhetorical question obviously)

By hiring a "paid expert" like Exponent they were clearly seeking a guilty verdict. Why not just let the facts fall as they may? They did the same thing to the Saints and that baffles me as well.

It's what makes me somewhat worried about current scandal with the Bengals. My sense of their motive - "if we can find nefarious behavior good for us, if not let's just create it".

Deflategate would have been easily proven if they had simply took the suspected footballs, set them aside and allowed them to re-acclimate to the referees locker room but instead they decided for some inexplicable reason to re-inflate the suspected footballs, essentially destroying the evidence and put them back into the game despite having 20 or so spare footballs in a bag ten feet away from them.

So even if they initially thought the Patriots were cheating, there was a time early on that they realized the Ideal gas law or the weather was the real culprit and they chose to spend 20 million dollars to save face.

So yes I'm worried too.

Tony2046 · Jan 18, 2020

RelocatedPatFan said:
Don’t forget the deflation was natural. Proven by the very same organization that proved second hand smoke and asbestos doesn’t cause cancer.

Exponent tried to prove the deflation wasn't natural. And yes they are hired guns for big corps.

fnordcircle · Jan 18, 2020

Leaving aside fans who don't want to learn the truth because the deflategate lie is a convenient way to try to undercut the Patriots' success the rest of the NFL fanbases who have bothered to look into this come around to reality pretty quickly.

r/NFL on reddit is like 100% convinced deflategate was a sham.

It was just an attempt by the other 31 to try to derail the unstoppable train that this franchise was and might still be. Can't really blame them, having the greatest coach of all time and the greatest QB of all time is just not fair.

Tony2046 · Jan 18, 2020

Tottie said:
They can say whatever they want they still conspired with the NFL to drive a narrative and will never be forgiven by our fanbase. Not that they care.

When you find yourself getting upset over it, just watch this:

gg Go0dell.

That was awesome. Thanks

Tony2046 · Jan 18, 2020

fnordcircle said:
Leaving aside fans who don't want to learn the truth because the deflategate lie is a convenient way to try to undercut the Patriots' success the rest of the NFL fanbases who have bothered to look into this come around to reality pretty quickly.

r/NFL on reddit is like 100% convinced deflategate was a sham.

It was just an attempt by the other 31 to try to derail the unstoppable train that this franchise was and might still be. Can't really blame them, having the greatest coach of all time and the greatest QB of all time is just not fair.

But it is fair.

PatsWickedPissah · Jan 18, 2020

The real blame lies with the press who instead of being skeptics assumed their role of sycophants to the powers that be. Had they not done so this would not have stood.
False narratives let stand without consequence. Sadly typical of today's "journalism".
FU Mort, et. al. Rot in Hell.

MagicMarker · Jan 18, 2020

Who could spill the beans on this? Before being hired by the NFL, Troy Vincent tried to become head of the NFLPA. If somehow he switched sides during these negotiations, he could leak everything as a means to get discipline power away from Goodell. Probably, a pipe dream.

RelocatedPatFan · Jan 18, 2020

Tony2046 said:
Exponent tried to prove the deflation wasn't natural. And yes they are hired guns for big corps.

yeah was/wasn't makes all the difference. I'm going to blame the mistake on my phone spell check feature.

Exponent = Evil corporate greed

Tony2046 · Jan 18, 2020

RelocatedPatFan said:
yeah was/wasn't makes all the difference. I'm going to blame the mistake on my phone spell check feature. Exponent = Evil corporate greed

I thought that's what you meant.

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