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Tunes is an avowed Boreball hater...
No great loss, they’ll find another manager. Hope they can keep Mookie though.
Baseball’s a great game, but to each his own. Weird how some use not liking it as a personality trait, but whatever.
I love pretty much all sports, thought most did...although the NBA deciding they like the three-point competition so much they’d make it the whole game has ruined that league a little.
Then why does baseball have no problem at all with stealing signs in general?Knowing what pitch is coming is HUGE.
He should be out of baseball altogether. Maybe he can get a job as a manual laborer of some kind. They love to cheat people.
PM me their contact info please.WTF, Kontra? This is making me laugh at the breakfast table. That's about 50% of the human race. You have a bad recent experience?
The contractors and manual laborers I hire to work around the house are some of the more honest people I encounter in any given day.
Then why does baseball have no problem at all with stealing signs in general?
If they had stolen the signs the “old-fashioned way” and relayed them to the batter so he knew what pitch was coming no one would have cared. They just came up with a scheme that entailed less effort.
And if it’s really so important, why don’t teams change up the signs encoding so that stealing signs would be mostly useless? It wouldn’t be hard to do that.
When the Astros come to town, teams should play “I don’t wanna work, I just want to bang on these drums all day!”Is anybody else just gobsmacked by the trash-can banging? Seriously? They are that brazen about it? Nobody picked up on it? No broadcaster said "What's that banging noise coming from around the Astros' dugout?" No fan seated in the vicinity complained about it? No one in the media noticed? No opposing pitcher was irritated that their concentration was being interrupted?
Nobody in Hollywood would have the guts to write such a thing into a script, unless it was a satire/comedy about baseball.
Or, "Before He Cheats" by Carrie Underwood.When the Astros come to town, teams should play “I don’t wanna work, I just want to bang on these drums all day!”
You hit the nail on the head as to my view. I hate when leagues use “integrity of the game” comments on this type of stuff. That’s not what I think of when I think of integrity. I think it’s the league’s job to ensure this type of shenanigan isn’t going on, but I understand the players’ motivations behind it. “Integrity” to me relates to ensuring that the games aren’t rigged. These actions aren’t rigging the game, they’re trying to win at all costs.Yeah...I tend to put the burden of the “cheating” problem on the league that doesn’t tighten the rules enough or use technology enough to prevent it. Like in this case, MLB could have easily hired their own representative to be in a dugout or centerfield, knowing these accusations. Or pitcher and catcher could easily use some other type of better communication technology to prevent this.
If there are signs to steal, teams will try to steal them. The teams that are the smartest and most successful will get punished and scapegoated. Teams that suck or aren’t as good at gamesmanship will skate by.
I agree...there are really only two types of actual cheaters in sports:
1. Juicers...guys that use masking agents and purposely circumvent drug tests. That is just another level of “getting an edge” and is an uneven playing field. Lance Armstrong is a good example with the lengths he went to hide the doping.
2. Guys who LOSE on purpose for gambling, getting paid off, etc. They should get a lifetime ban.
Everyone else is just trying to gain access to valuable information or trying to get an edge in winning a game. As they push/break rules, the league should respond by adjusting its protocols rather than crying and punishing. We know that in a competitive world like this, you really are likely at a disadvantage if you’re not trying to gain every possible edge. Holding, offsides, pass interference...these are also “against the rules” and have penalties. All rules violations have penalties. Teams and individuals take risks when they break rules. But again, they are trying to win, not throwing games or point shaving. I don’t know if I’d use the word “cheating.” Maybe I’m in the minority...I just think at that level you should expect that everyone will do anything to win and prepare to combat it. It’s part of the game.
Pete Rose systematically bet on MLB games, including games within which he was participating (both as a player and as a manager), for years.Pete Rose bet on a game
Not the game itself really, only the perversion that is MLB.Tunes is an avowed Boreball hater...
Is anybody else just gobsmacked by the trash-can banging? Seriously? They are that brazen about it? Nobody picked up on it? No broadcaster said "What's that banging noise coming from around the Astros' dugout?" No fan seated in the vicinity complained about it? No one in the media noticed? No opposing pitcher was irritated that their concentration was being interrupted?
Nobody in Hollywood would have the guts to write such a thing into a script, unless it was a satire/comedy about baseball.