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He is as useless as Harry, which is saying something. 55 overall would have been nice

Harry played pretty well considering he was the #1/#2 receiver due to the sht show from veterans that were expected to do much better, and Edelman’s injury. Harry was way better than Sanu. I don’t know if I’ve seen a level of suck on par with Sanu when it comes to a supposed good wide receiver. Not only does he absolutely suck in every way imaginable, he also seems to lack effort and urgency. Wish they had played Meyers over this ***clown. At least Meyers fought for balls and clearly was hungry to succeed. This is the worst in-season trade I’ve seen from the Patriots, considering cost and return. What a total joke of a player.
 
Comparing Sanu to Harry is pointless because Sanu is a veteran player. Harry, as a rookie, missed out half of a year's worth of practice. No matter how bad Harry has been, I won't blame him too much even though I am very disappointed. There is no excuse for Sanu to play this poorly, even if he is playing through high ankle sprain.

People have said that this was an overpay before Sanu even took a snap, but now this looks like highway robbery for the Falcons. This stings even more because this is a deeeeeeeeeeep WR class.
 
There is no excuse for Sanu to play this poorly, even if he is playing through high ankle sprain.
That excuse may have worked (on some of us) back around Thanksgiving, but I don’t believe that Sanu has been limited in any way during practice in at least 3-4 weeks. He hasn’t been listed on the injury report since the 2nd week of December. That’s just something the homers like to parrot.
 
What is Sanu’s strength ? He can’t get open, the ball bounces of his hands, doesn’t get many yards after the catch, doesn’t have a down and distance awareness, doesn’t know how to use his body to shield of defenders, never been more than a 3rd receiver .....and they gave 2nd round pick for him.

Likes of Mike Lombardi can tell fans that Sanu is better fit in the Patriots system than Sanders.. I guess I don’t know how.
 
What is Sanu’s strength ? He can’t get open, the ball bounces of his hands, doesn’t get many yards after the catch, doesn’t have a down and distance awareness, doesn’t know how to use his body to shield of defenders, never been more than a 3rd receiver .....and they gave 2nd round pick for him.

Likes of Mike Lombardi can tell fans that Sanu is better fit in the Patriots system than Sanders.. I guess I don’t know how.
Lombardi was just being a homer. There isn’t even an alternate universe that exists where Sanu is a better fit than Sanders. Pats got too cute there and it bit them in the ass. They needed someone who could get defenses out of playing them as if they were in the red zone everywhere on the field and they brought in Tank Ass.
 
Harry played pretty well considering he was the #1/#2 receiver due to the sht show from veterans that were expected to do much better, and Edelman’s injury. Harry was way better than Sanu. I don’t know if I’ve seen a level of suck on par with Sanu when it comes to a supposed good wide receiver. Not only does he absolutely suck in every way imaginable, he also seems to lack effort and urgency. Wish they had played Meyers over this ***clown. At least Meyers fought for balls and clearly was hungry to succeed. This is the worst in-season trade I’ve seen from the Patriots, considering cost and return. What a total joke of a player.

Harry sucked.

Sanu averaged 4.4 yards/tgt. That is basically historically bad. Only 17 WR since 1992(limit of stats) have averaged <=4.5 yards/tgt on at least 20 receptions.

Guess how much Harry averaged? If you guessed 4.4yards/tgt you would be right!

For the record the 2013 misfit rookies averaged
7.2yards/tgt Dobson
6.8yards/tgt Thompkins
6.4yards/tgt Boyce

Basically Harry, on a team with terrible WRs, still took to handing him the ball to get him involved, because he certainly wasn't getting it done in the passing game.
 
Harry was a bad pick. Don't understand how professionals can watch tape on guys and come up with Harry being a better pick than Metcalf, Samual, AJ Brown, Mclaurin, ect.....and thinking Michel was worthy of a 1st round pick.
 
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its March 2020...Belichick calls you and says he has a roster decision he needs your help with:

Mohammed Sanu or Jordan Richards.... go
 
The Patriots couldn't have fit the remainder or Sanders' 2019 contract under the cap at the trade deadline, so the comparison is a moot point. Sanu was a weird fit as a big slot on a team with a lot of slots (Edelman, Meyers, even Harry is probably best suited there), though in Atlanta he was always a very good red zone receiver, to the point where his touchdown totals regularly exceeded Julio's. But it's pretty clear he was a roll of the dice with the odds heavily weighted against him -- the positional fit, the lack of a true #1 as Edelman got beat up, learning a new offense midseason, a quarterback who seemed disinterested in integrating new players, then the injury,

It's hard to believe Sanu went from a very good complementary wide receiver in Atlanta to a trainwreck in New England literally over the course of a single week, so there are obviously other factors at play. Injury is one. Quarterback play is another. The other is learning the offense. If you watched Sanu closely, a lot of issues were with him being off on his releases, and ending up a half-second behind the play as a result. That stuff will get fixed in training camp and I expect him to be a contributor next season.

Harry's more of a mystery, if we should expect him to be Cordarelle Patterson or if we should expect more. The good news, I guess, is that Patterson is a useful player, but not exactly what you're looking for in round 1. DJ Chark and Mike Williams are both examples of receivers who were basically invisible their rookie season before emerging their second year, so it's possible.

I still think they need a top-flight guy though. Maybe Kraft forgives a cleared Antonio Brown, maybe Beckham. I don't know.
 
Harry's more of a mystery, if we should expect him to be Cordarelle Patterson or if we should expect more. The good news, I guess, is that Patterson is a useful player, but not exactly what you're looking for in round 1. DJ Chark and Mike Williams are both examples of receivers who were basically invisible their rookie season before emerging their second year, so it's possible.

We can't even expect him to be Patterson at this point.

Patterson is an all-Pro kick returner.

Patterson averaged TWICE the yards/tgt of Harry with the Patriots.
 
We can't even expect him to be Patterson at this point.

Patterson is an all-Pro kick returner.

Patterson averaged TWICE the yards/tgt of Harry with the Patriots.

Patterson's been in the NFL for almost a decade, so seems a little unfair to compare him statistically to a guy who's played like 6 games. But in terms of style, Patterson's been a useful guy who creates yards and opens spaces for offenses but has never, ever been able to get open despite insane physical tools.
 
That excuse may have worked (on some of us) back around Thanksgiving, but I don’t believe that Sanu has been limited in any way during practice in at least 3-4 weeks. He hasn’t been listed on the injury report since the 2nd week of December. That’s just something the homers like to parrot.

Preach sup preach.;)
 
I'm pretty sure the Pats could have underachieved to a 4-4 record the second half of the season without Sanu. That makes losing that second rounder sting even more...
 
The Patriots couldn't have fit the remainder or Sanders' 2019 contract under the cap at the trade deadline, so the comparison is a moot point. Sanu was a weird fit as a big slot on a team with a lot of slots (Edelman, Meyers, even Harry is probably best suited there), though in Atlanta he was always a very good red zone receiver, to the point where his touchdown totals regularly exceeded Julio's. But it's pretty clear he was a roll of the dice with the odds heavily weighted against him -- the positional fit, the lack of a true #1 as Edelman got beat up, learning a new offense midseason, a quarterback who seemed disinterested in integrating new players, then the injury,

It's hard to believe Sanu went from a very good complementary wide receiver in Atlanta to a trainwreck in New England literally over the course of a single week, so there are obviously other factors at play. Injury is one. Quarterback play is another. The other is learning the offense. If you watched Sanu closely, a lot of issues were with him being off on his releases, and ending up a half-second behind the play as a result. That stuff will get fixed in training camp and I expect him to be a contributor next season.

Harry's more of a mystery, if we should expect him to be Cordarelle Patterson or if we should expect more. The good news, I guess, is that Patterson is a useful player, but not exactly what you're looking for in round 1. DJ Chark and Mike Williams are both examples of receivers who were basically invisible their rookie season before emerging their second year, so it's possible.

I still think they need a top-flight guy though. Maybe Kraft forgives a cleared Antonio Brown, maybe Beckham. I don't know.

Wishful thinking Brady spent a lot of time with Sanu less with Harry...news Flash Sanu Sucks he was an afterthought in Atlanta. The Second year Receiver Ridley I think pushed him down the dept chart plus TE Austin Hooper. Sanu is not even worth a 1$Mill plus what he's on the books for in 2020 I expect them to move on he didn't help Edelman over the middle.
 
Harry sucked.

Sanu averaged 4.4 yards/tgt. That is basically historically bad. Only 17 WR since 1992(limit of stats) have averaged <=4.5 yards/tgt on at least 20 receptions.

Guess how much Harry averaged? If you guessed 4.4yards/tgt you would be right!

For the record the 2013 misfit rookies averaged
7.2yards/tgt Dobson
6.8yards/tgt Thompkins
6.4yards/tgt Boyce

Basically Harry, on a team with terrible WRs, still took to handing him the ball to get him involved, because he certainly wasn't getting it done in the passing game.
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Harry sucked.

Sanu averaged 4.4 yards/tgt. That is basically historically bad. Only 17 WR since 1992(limit of stats) have averaged <=4.5 yards/tgt on at least 20 receptions.

Guess how much Harry averaged? If you guessed 4.4yards/tgt you would be right!

For the record the 2013 misfit rookies averaged
7.2yards/tgt Dobson
6.8yards/tgt Thompkins
6.4yards/tgt Boyce

Basically Harry, on a team with terrible WRs, still took to handing him the ball to get him involved, because he certainly wasn't getting it done in the passing game.

I agree how many times did Harry run a decent route three yards past the LOS?? Not many! really hope he works hard in the Off season and not become another Kevin White.
 
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What is Sanu’s strength ? He can’t get open, the ball bounces of his hands, doesn’t get many yards after the catch, doesn’t have a down and distance awareness, doesn’t know how to use his body to shield of defenders, never been more than a 3rd receiver .....and they gave 2nd round pick for him.

Likes of Mike Lombardi can tell fans that Sanu is better fit in the Patriots system than Sanders.. I guess I don’t know how.
Think of it as the football equivalent of beer goggles. It's the end of a long night, only one girl is left, you don't want to go home alone...
 
Comparing Sanu to Harry is pointless because Sanu is a veteran player. Harry, as a rookie, missed out half of a year's worth of practice. No matter how bad Harry has been, I won't blame him too much even though I am very disappointed. There is no excuse for Sanu to play this poorly, even if he is playing through high ankle sprain.

People have said that this was an overpay before Sanu even took a snap, but now this looks like highway robbery for the Falcons. This stings even more because this is a deeeeeeeeeeep WR class.

I am not buying any injury with sanu. He stinks. Idk what harry will do in the offseason to get much better separation from corners. Can he get faster by dropping weight? Maybe looking 7 to 8 pounds.
 
I think Sanu could be a decent piece next year. Not convinced he is "useless" but YES, 2nd rounder was a lot. I think with a full off-season he will be much improved, as will Harry.

At the end of the day with a Healthy Edelman, Sanu, and Harry with full offseasons (doesn't apply to Edelman much) and the addition of Develin and Andrews back into the line-up, we are already going to see a big difference.

If we can sign a solid TE (or two?) as well - that gives us SO much more flexibility in this offense.

On top of that - ONE WR that can create separation would be HUGE. I was a big fan of having a guy like Brandin Cooks on the roster - but I digress.
 
It's probably true that Harry as a pure WR sucks just as bad as Sanu. His Patterson-like gadget utility makes him useful in a way Sanu isn't, however.
 
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