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NFL Rumors: Tom Brady Won’t Take Hometown Discount To Stay With Patriots


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What team can’t sell tickets and would sell 35 million more with Brady?
There’s a team in LA, a market that loves stars, that is moving into a new stadium and needs to build its fan base.

Brady merchandise alone in Chargers baby blue would be huge.
 
This offseason totally ****ing sucks. We're not gonna know what's happening for months.
 
There’s a team in LA, a market that loves stars, that is moving into a new stadium and needs to build its fan base.

Brady merchandise alone in Chargers baby blue would be huge.
Why would brady want to leave the patriots to go to the chargers?
 
Why would any other team be willing to pay him more than we would? We have an offense built around him and no replacement and have been winning with him for 20 years.
The Chargers would probably let him write his own contract because they have the most to gain from a financial standpoint by making a big splash.
 
This offseason totally ****ing sucks. We're not gonna know what's happening for months.
You had better stock up on tequila and blow up dolls. Be thankful, for at least you have creative outlets.
 
The Chargers would probably let him write his own contract because they have the most to gain from a financial standpoint by making a big splash.
I’m just hoping that the dust settles, their interest is rejected at the combine, and Rivers re-ups for 2020.
 
Brady won't take a discount, let him go. If Brady will take a discount, let him go.



Go Pats, it's rebuild time.
 
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Give him some agressive wideouts and TE that can catch balls and we'll see his magic again...
Considering a better OL...
 
You had better stock up on tequila and blow up dolls. Be thankful, for at least you have creative outlets.

Tito's vodka and, in under 2 months, weed again. I'm leaving Austin, the 25+ minute commute to get anywhere can S my D.
 
Who is to say Bill will have final say on Brady's future? The owner loves Brady like a son.

Agreed. And who is to say that BB doesn't retire? Or who is to say that brady doesn't retire? Or that they both have already discussed the situation and are still deciding? Etc etc etc

More sports media click bait crap. I doubt BB or TB know for absolute certain how the offseason will play out. They are both unhappy with this season's results. both long in the tooth, both on a year to year as to how they want their NFL live's to proceed, and we'll find out for certain when someone in the room reports verbatim what was said or we see their decision's announced. Until then enjoy every half wit sports media mouth blathering on their theories.
 
Why would brady want to leave the patriots to go to the chargers?

Have you not been paying attention for the last year? Brady couldn’t get the deal he wanted out of them last year so he made them include in the contract that they can’t tag him and that he can become a free agent.

I hope to hell he remains a Patriot but he’s set himself up to have options. Maybe to remain a Patriot he will want certain commitments to field a better offence. Maybe to remain he will want a certain level of money and years.

I think it’s more likely then not he remains but he will want a lot better players at TE and WR. If the Pats low ball him or won’t commit to revamping the O I can see him leaving and the Chargers make a lot of sense. Good set of skill players and good talent on the team. Back to his home state. Huge market for TB12 to expand to.

Chris Collinsworth said tonight on TV he thinks Brady goes to the Chargers. It makes sense from both sides. I think he wants to come back to the Patriots but not with the lack of offensive talent he had this year. Ultimately it will be up to Belichick.
 
He'd be crazy to stay here. No wrs, no tes, bad ol. Another year of beating his head against a wall?

This:^ Homers C'mom now.
 
Redshirt RB is a luxury you don't really have when your TE depth chart is arguably the worst assembled by an NFL team in the last 20 years.

Meanwhile, Metcalf just dropped 160 yards in a playoff game. If your system can't get production out of a guy like him and instead gets you what we watched last night, then your system needs adapting

Homers read: Harry has hand cramps Brady looked at him in disjust after those drops and his lack of separation. If I was Brady I am not coming back to the Patriots to play with a year two Harry he is what he is a WR who's Big for nothing. :oops:
 
I would be shocked if brady said this exactly publicly to king .He is not the one to throw his team mates/Wrs under the bus by saying so, as much as truth there may have been to it. I feel a lot of it is inferring than actual feelings. If jules makes that catch yesterday , we arent having this conversation.

IF Jules had help we wouldn't be having this conversation. This Offense was never able to get it going that's on The GM\BB. :rolleyes:
 
This:^ Homers C'mom now.
I’m surely not a homer, but let’s be fair: when was the last time that Belichick allowed the same problems to carry over beyond that year, and at such important positions?

One possible example that I can think of would be the terrible WR group in 2006, coming out of a mediocre 2005, but even in ‘05 you still had 80 catches from Branch, another 60 from Givens, 40 from Brown, etc.

In other words, I’m assuming that the TE and WR groups are improved upon for 2020. The bar wasn’t exactly set too high, so it shouldn’t be a problem. It’s hard to see Belichick repeating the exact same mistakes. If Brady stays for another season, he should be able to field just as competitive of a team as he would anywhere else. Just my opinion.
 
Read King’s article tomorrow I guess. I was repeating what he said on live TV
FMIA Wild Card: Tom Brady Saw The End Coming, Now Controls His Future
The interesting takeaway from spending 10 minutes with Tom Brady before he left Gillette Stadium near midnight Saturday? He didn’t seem at all surprised by the 20-13 wild-card loss to Tennessee. He was sad but not distraught, knowing how stupid it would be for him, after playing in nine Super Bowls in a magical 20-year run, to be somehow unfulfilled after the Patriots played pretty much the same desultory football against Tennessee that they’d played for the past two months. I kept thinking as he spoke: Tom Brady could see this coming.

What Brady can’t see with similar clarity? The future.

Brady, clear-eyed, looking more like 32 than 42, sat in an office near the Patriots’ locker room near midnight, less than an hour after the New England dynasty was shaken to the core, and maybe shuttered. He wore a navy button-down shirt, blue khakis, tan boots, a navy ski cap and the look of a man who absolutely does not know what 2020 and beyond holds for him as he faces true freedom for the first time in his career. Brady is scheduled to be a free agent without the franchise tag when the league year begins in March.

“I’m not crushingly disappointed,” Brady said, looking me straight in the eyes. “I think we fought hard. Our head is held high. We’re competitors. Every season doesn’t end in a Super Bowl win. It’s exciting when it does. You relish those when you have those opportunities and we’ve had them more than anyone else. I’m proud of the guys for fighting hard. But those other guys [the Titans] are competitive too, and they deserved to win tonight. We just didn’t make the plays the last half of the season that we needed to make. Didn’t make the plays tonight.”

“First time in 20 years you’re truly a free man,” I said. “How do you feel about that right now?”

“Yeah,” said Brady. “I think I’m just . . . I’ll explore those opportunities whenever they are. If it’s the Patriots, great. If that doesn’t work, I don’t know. I just don’t know. I love playing football. I still want to play football. I think I still can play at a championship level. I’ve just got to go do it. I’m motivated to get back to work and training.”

Somewhere. And when Brady considers his future, my gut feeling is this: He’s going to prioritize needing a better offense around him in 2020 than he had in 2019, when his body language and clipped post-game press conferences—even after a big but offensively frustrating win in Buffalo—told the story of a frustrating season.

In his office four hours before the game, owner Robert Kraft broke his silence on Brady’s future.

“Before the season started,” Kraft said, “it was very important to Tom that he be free to do whatever he wanted at the end of the year. You know what I said to myself? That any person who plays 20 years for this team and helps us get to six Super Bowls, and been really selfless, has earned that right. I love the young man like he’s part of my family. Blood family. Anyone who’s done that has earned the right to control his future after 20 years. And you know, my hope and prayer is number one, he play for the Patriots. Or number two, he retires. He has the freedom to decide what he wants to do and what’s in his own best personal interest.”

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Patriots quarterback Tom Brady. (Getty Images)
Approving Brady’s wish was difficult, obviously, for Kraft. He’s a football fan. He’s been going to Patriots game for a half-century. He knows Joe Montana finished a Chief, Joe Namath a Ram and . . .

“See this picture here?” Kraft said, walking me over to a photo on his wall of Johnny Unitas, in a Patriots cap, posing with Kraft before one of Kraft’s first games as New England owner in the mid-1990s.

“I got Johnny Unitas wearing a Patriot hat,” Kraft mused.

At 40, in 1973, Unitas had a bad curtain-call to end his career with the San Diego Chargers. Five games, 45-percent passing, three touchdowns, seven interceptions, a 40.0 rating. Ouch.

“I’m thinking of all that, of all the quarterbacks who went elsewhere, and I just hope and believe that Tom . . . he is so special that he’s earned the right to do what’s best for him. . . . But I just hope and pray we fit into his plans. He is unique in the kind of leader he is, his work ethic, his selfless nature, everything. Think about it: He’s been with us 20 percent of the life of the NFL.”

I asked Kraft if this had been a melancholy week for him, knowing this could be Brady’s last game as a Patriot in Foxboro. He thought for four or five seconds. “I don’t know if I’d say melancholy,” Kraft said. “I think I just realize that I shouldn’t take for granted how lucky we have been. I saw a stat that the Buffalo Bills haven’t won a playoff game since ’95. Not one. And that brought it home. We’ve won over 30. So . . . how lucky we’ve been. But also we know you can’t rest on your laurels. Things change and you’ve got to have an edge and look to how you keep things going the best you can.”

On the field, an hour before the game, the air was thick with anticipation. In one corner of the stadium, where it’s been since the 2004 season, a sign screaming BRADY’S CORNER #12 was in its customary spot with the customary owner, Mike Burke of North Kingstown, R.I. “I don’t see him playing for another team,” Burke said. “But when I left home today, I told my wife, ‘This could be the very last game for Tom.’ ”

A couple of minutes later, as is his pre-game custom, Brady ran the length of the field to the south goal. Surely he saw the huge sign PLEASE STAY TOMMY right behind the goal post as he pumped his fist crazily and screamed, “LET’S GO! LET’S F—ING GO!” This is how different the night felt: When Brady turned to run back, he spotted three young Titans—wideout A.J. Brown, tight end Jonnu Smith and running back Khari Blasingame—clapping respectfully and pointing toward him. Brady pointed at them, nodding as if to say, That’s truly appreciated. And when he did, they, in turn, responded by pumping fists and jumping around. That’s a five-second moment I’ll always remember about this night.

“So cool,” Smith, smiling broadly, said later. “Just wanted to show our respect for one of the greatest ever. Much respect, much love to him. He’s one of the great men in our game, and when he looked over at us . . . It was great.”
 
Why would any other team be willing to pay him more than we would? We have an offense built around him and no replacement and have been winning with him for 20 years.

They have a Huge cap space.:cool:
 
Goal line offense vs Titans

1st and 1: Run left fail
2nd and 2: Run left fail
3rd and 1: Run left fail

This series epitomized the issues with the O line and the offense all year.
Coaching staff had no faith in the right side of the line
And the left side of the line decisively lost 3 consecutive battles.
The goal line offense was inept all season and in game 17 of their season they didn’t trust any pass catcher to find space and secure the ball in the end zone. Instead, they chose to run at the same spot on the same wall 3 times in a row
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The question BB might be asking himself is: Is it worth giving Brady the $$$ he wants if the organization can’t adequately retool over the short term to make the Brady investment payoff.

Needs:
2 TEs (1 starter caliber)
2 upgrade WRs (1 starter minimum)
1 starter OL + 1 depth OL at a minimum

Factor in the plethora of veteran big money Patriot D players hitting the market and the holes that are inevitable on the NE roster because Bill can’t ignore the offense again.

Another issue:

Will Brady wait on the sidelines during free agency to see what kind of roster Bill assembles?
Unless retirement is a real consideration and he’s limited his choices to resigning with NE under perfect conditions or retiring, no way Brady loiters in free agency. Delays would limit his next team’s ability to improve its roster. All in early.
 
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