Penalties being considered for the Pats - UPDATED 1/1/2020

Ladypatsfan · Dec 10, 2019

I expect that BB or Kraft will be suspended. Maybe both. They will take all of our picks from rounnds 1 to 4 from the draft.

BradyFTW! · Dec 10, 2019

Fatmancryin said:
What young/elite players have the Patriots ever had, besides Tom Brady? Brady wasn’t even elite in his younger years.

How many superbowls, Winning season have they had without the young elite players?

You should do something about that permanent HARD ON you have for other teams players.

Brady was elite from 2002 onward

SVN · Dec 10, 2019

GHS- Curtis thinks Bill Belichick could lose his job if the Patriots videotaping allegations are true; callers debate whether or not it's okay to boo Tom Brady and the Patriots 12-10-19 lol

RobertWeathers · Dec 10, 2019

TomPatriot said:
I don't care how it looks. The Pats are hated already. I care about the "punishment" though.

Absolutely! I've embraced the hate.

If they lose a 7th rounder i'll be beyond pissed.

QuantumMechanic · Dec 10, 2019

dreighver said:
Focused on what "one thing"?

The sideline is a large entity, so having a camera generally panned over it (perhaps not even being actively operated, moved, etc) is entirely innocuous.

Yes, but...

What do you need 8 minutes of sideline B-roll for? (And it would have been more than 8 minutes if they hadn’t been discovered, remember.) It’s not like this is a 5 hour documentary they were producing.

TomPatriot · Dec 10, 2019

Interesting how this controversy is reported by BSPN a day after the Patriots get hosed by NFL officials and a dysfunctional review process. That embarrassment sure went away fast.

Koma · Dec 10, 2019

Ras-IR Dowling said:
Well see. Remember during spy gate the tapes were destroyed apparently. People were pissed. Maybe the league will give the people what they want this time.

Eh, for the Patriots haters, it won’t matter if the footage is released. They’ll just claim the league is withholding the really damaging footage.

It’s the same thing with the tapes from 2007. The NFL could have made those available online for anyone to see any time and people still wouldn’t have been satisfied. Meanwhile, the league doesn’t release evidence from their investigations into other teams and no one thinks that’s unusual.

StairwayToSe7en · Dec 10, 2019

The 1st round of the draft for NE is like the first month of the regular season. They take that round off to just **** around. Just like they do in January and February football, the team does it's best work in the later rounds.

The league thinking The Dynasty would miss that 1st round draft pick

Patstastic · Dec 10, 2019

Froob said:
If there was no look at downs and time, I can't see how you could correlate the signs with anything.

Good point. Thing is the league isn't going to give the Patriots the benefit of the doubt. Not after Spygate and Deflategate.

denverpatsfan · Dec 10, 2019

Would have been nice to get some work done today. LOL. Does this factor into Brady or BB staying here in NE? If it was me it certainly would. I wouldn't need unnecessary BS interfering with my game preparations. I know they are good at ignoring distractions but first the Krafty Handy, then the AB circus and now this??!!

slash83 · Dec 10, 2019

Why would you record the worst team in football and try to gain a strategic advantage?

Are they really that desperate?

Tb12goesinya · Dec 10, 2019

I'm glad this happening, maybe they can use it as a rallying cry. It's not the player's fault. They know damn well they've earned everything they've achieved.

Observer · Dec 10, 2019

Krafty should be fined for stupidity.

WeezyFbaby · Dec 10, 2019

Cheering for this team can be completely exhausting at times. Why would you not take every precaution to prevent this, they have to know theyre under the biggest of microscopes.

Spygate
Deflategate
Aaron Hernandez
Kraft rub n tug
Chung and Harmon Drug arrests
And now this

there is no team in pro sports that deals with more BS than this team. Its getting really difficult to continuously defend this organization.

catent · Dec 10, 2019

QuantumMechanic said:
Yes, but...

What do you need 8 minutes of sideline B-roll for? (And it would have been more than 8 minutes if they hadn’t been discovered, remember.) It’s not like this is a 5 hour documentary they were producing.

Yeah, I'm not sure.

Be curious if the scout present was filmed, and what his understanding/explanation of the events is.

Will also be interested to get the explanation of the camera crew/contractors and what their work/creative process was.

slash83 · Dec 10, 2019

He really needs to go.

reflexblue · Dec 10, 2019

QuantumMechanic said:
His point is that for all we know they may have taped 30 minutes or the whole game if they hadn’t gotten discovered. You can’t attempt to minimize it by saying “they only taped 8 minutes” because they didn’t stop taping on their own.

It’s not like they stopped taping after 8 minutes, were packing things up, and then got challenged.

In any event, even if the league exonerates BB and football ops, there will be punishment to the team which will likely be a big fine and more loss of draft choices.

We simply don't know what happened almost everything on here is conjecture, but i agree that the SOP of goodell is a fine and loss of drft pick(s) if they find the slightest cintilla of evidence that they were purposely filming the bungles sideline to use in a game.

catent · Dec 10, 2019

I feel fairly confident saying that if football operations genuinely had zero knowledge/involvement with this (which I believe to be true) and a punishment is levied that impacts football operations (such as the revocation of a draft pick), Belichick might just walk, and I can't blame him. That would be heinous.

NashuaPats · Dec 10, 2019

slash83 said:
Why would you record the worst team in football and try to gain a strategic advantage?

Are they really that desperate?

Why wouldn't you just use a guy with a cell phone in the stands rather than an official cameraman in front of media and personnel from both teams? Because they're weren't actually spying. It was just film for a documentary.

SVN · Dec 10, 2019

Koma said:
Eh, for the Patriots haters, it won’t matter if the footage is released. They’ll just claim the league is withholding the really damaging footage.

It’s the same thing with the tapes from 2007. The NFL could have made those available online for anyone to see any time and people still wouldn’t have been satisfied. Meanwhile, the league doesn’t release evidence from their investigations into other teams and no one thinks that’s unusual.

'Spygate' tapes reveal cheerleaders, not plays | The Honolulu Advertiser | Hawaii's Newspaper
people forget this , they did show whatever tapes were left.

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