Penalties being considered for the Pats - UPDATED 1/1/2020

condon84 · Dec 10, 2019

Let's see the footage.

What if it's 8 minutes footage of Bengals cheerleaders?

NashuaPats · Dec 10, 2019

mgcolby said:
Yep...I was on a train from DC to Boston last year the week leading up to the AFCCG, apparently Trenni has worked in the KC market or with someone who now works in the KC market. Either way I was streaming their morning show to get a sense of how they were feeling going into the game. Trenni came on and just completely **** on the Pats, Boston fans etc...She did the whole "Ah I am not going to answer that" routine a couple of times. To her credit she did say she wouldn't count the Pats out, brave statement right there.

But its ridiculous that it appears the Boston sports market powers to be go out of their way to hire people that despise the local teams. I hear nothing but homerism in every other market I find myself listening to. I'm not saying I want every one in the market to be a ball washer, but neutrality isn't/shouldn't be to much to ask for.

Unfortunately, that's what gets ratings.

TomPatriot · Dec 10, 2019

condon84 said:
Let's see the footage.

What if it's 8 minutes footage of Bengals cheerleaders?

I'll watch it then.

Patstastic · Dec 10, 2019

Fatmancryin said:
Current state? What current state?

Their 10-3, most likely are going to win out and finish 13-3.

You need to cut back on the sky is falling rhetoric with this team.

No elite/great young players on the team. Chiefs have Hardman. Ravens have Hollywood. Seahawks have Metcalf. Shall I go on? Offense is terrible. Defense is great. But not historically good enough to overcome a terrible offense.

FCB02062 · Dec 10, 2019

If it's true that this was just filming footage for one of Krafty Bob's money makers, and the coach had nothing to do with it, I hope Goodell fines Kraft $10M for repeated embarrassment to the league...

QuantumMechanic · Dec 10, 2019

Ras-IR Dowling said:
thread full of hot takes.

Hopefully the tape is released and let that settle the debate.

The NFL will not release the footage. In fact, the more innocuous it is the less likely they won’t release it. They want people to think the worst of NE.

TomPatriot · Dec 10, 2019

robertweathers said:
In my unofficial polling of this thread, I find it fascinating there are more fans who care about how it looks and how it effects them than any punishment the team may receive.

I don't care how it looks. The Pats are hated already. I care about the "punishment" though.

Ras-IR Dowling · Dec 10, 2019

QuantumMechanic said:
The NFL will not release the footage. In fact, the more innocuous it is the less likely they won’t release it. They want people to think the worst of NE.

Well see. Remember during spy gate the tapes were destroyed apparently. People were pissed. Maybe the league will give the people what they want this time.

Fatmancryin · Dec 10, 2019

Patstastic said:
No elite/great young players on the team. Chiefs have Hardman. Ravens have Hollywood. Seahawks have Metcalf. Shall I go on? Offense is terrible. Defense is great. But not historically good enough to overcome a terrible offense.

What young/elite players have the Patriots ever had, besides Tom Brady? Brady wasn’t even elite in his younger years.

How many superbowls, Winning season have they had without the young elite players?

You should do something about that permanent HARD ON you have for other teams players.

SVN · Dec 10, 2019

BradyFTW! · Dec 10, 2019

If the Pats let some contractor go up to the press box and film the sideline for 8 minutes then we deserve whatever absurd punishment Goodell is going to hand down for the sheer stupidity of it alone.

Can only imagine how furious Belichick must be right now. This is the most pointless and easily avoidable scandal ever and somehow it's going to unfairly be held against him.

lancerman · Dec 10, 2019

Regardless can we just agree that anything involving filming with this team should have massive NFL front office approval and involvement because the world will lose its **** if there are any missteps like this.

It’s just careless

QuantumMechanic · Dec 10, 2019

reflexblue said:
how do you know they were filming the bungles staff? Is this conjecture on your part or has it been disclosed?

His point is that for all we know they may have taped 30 minutes or the whole game if they hadn’t gotten discovered. You can’t attempt to minimize it by saying “they only taped 8 minutes” because they didn’t stop taping on their own.

It’s not like they stopped taping after 8 minutes, were packing things up, and then got challenged.

In any event, even if the league exonerates BB and football ops, there will be punishment to the team which will likely be a big fine and more loss of draft choices.

QuantumMechanic · Dec 10, 2019

Ras-IR Dowling said:
Well see. Remember during spy gate the tapes were destroyed apparently. People were pissed. Maybe the league will give the people what they want this time.

They won’t destroy it, but they won’t release it, either. It will be kept to be shown to owners, etc. But it won’t be released.

catent · Dec 10, 2019

SVN said:

Focused on what "one thing"?

The sideline is a large entity, so having a camera generally panned over it (perhaps not even being actively operated, moved, etc) is entirely innocuous.

Now, if the camera is panning around and focusing on specific elements of the sideline, yeah, that's more "sketchy".

QuantumMechanic · Dec 10, 2019

It’ll be interesting to see if the NFL keeps releasing NFL 100 segments on schedule or pauses them. That might give us some insight into what they think about BB’s involvement.

BradyFTW! · Dec 10, 2019

QuantumMechanic said:
His point is that for all we know they may have taped 30 minutes or the whole game if they hadn’t gotten discovered. You can’t attempt to minimize it by saying “they only taped 8 minutes” because they didn’t stop taping on their own.

It’s not like they stopped taping after 8 minutes, were packing things up, and then got challenged.

In any event, even if the league exonerates BB and football ops, there will be punishment to the team which will likely be a big fine and more loss of draft choices.

If the league exonerates football ops it becomes hard to justify anything more than a fine. Who knows with Goodell though, and at this point I borderline don't even care what the punishment is. The level of organizational stupidity required to end up at this point is pretty much unfathomable to me, so **** em.

mikey m · Dec 10, 2019

Not buying this. Out of the last 6 games we have played, why the hell would this be the one we felt we need a little extra help with? Still pretty pissed at whoever is responsible for this stupidity.

WesternMAPatsfan · Dec 10, 2019

FCB02062 said:
If it's true that this was just filming footage for one of Krafty Bob's money makers, and the coach had nothing to do with it, I hope Goodell fines Kraft $10M for repeated embarrassment to the league...

I absolutely agree. This greedy f_$k couldn't leave a couple bucks on the table.

If it's even close, don't do it!
Dumb ***

Froob · Dec 10, 2019

If there was no look at downs and time, I can't see how you could correlate the signs with anything.

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