Penalties being considered for the Pats - UPDATED 1/1/2020

robertweathers said:

The production folks were wearing NEP garb. They asked for permission. I understand your point but we are talking about non-football people here

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Would Cincinnati or the NFL allow a NEP film crew to film the Cincinnati sidelines during live game action (1 week prior to a PTs/ Bengals game)
You know the answer

Did the NEP or the NEP film crew ask Cincinnati or the NFL for permission to film Cincinnati personnel during live game action or did they conveniently avoid such contact?
You know the answer

Yet......

Does NE deserve the benefit of the doubt?

Will “It was an honest mistake” fly this go around?

If a multi-convicted bank robber is found outside of a just-robbed bank holding a bag full of stolen money, will the “honest mistake “ defense justify acquittal?

borg said:

Have you not been paying attention to NE’s offensive offense?

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So we felt better about facing the Ravens, Eagles, Cowboys, Texans and Chiefs than the Bengals? The offense wasn't exactly lights out against any of those teams, so it doesn't change the fact that we filmed the worst team on our schedule.

I hear quacking
I see duck feathers all over the place
There’s duck sh*t on the carpet
I found an autographed napkin with “Daffy” on it

“Hmmmmmmm..... I don’t know what any of this means” said the Patriots fan

StockingAnarchyNumber12 said:

Deflategate was extremely bogus. Absolutely was a witchhunt and looking back makes me ill. Spygate I was really young for. Was 14 and researched it before becoming a fan. Didn't really care.

This scandal might beat me down though. Being an anime/patriots fan always makes me a target. Was bullied in school for anime. However, learned to block the noise. However just sucks everything I support is crucified by people.

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6 Rings. Just remember 6 Rings. They can't do ****.

The anime stuff? I can't help ya there, buddy.

(j/k - - enjoy what you enjoy to the max! I think Gisele calls it, referring to football with Tom, as "feeding one's soul")

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dannydyn said:

The problem with this organization that it has spun off to other not playing-related ********. WTF is Kraft doing with this Do Your Job nonsense. Stop wasting money on ******** like that, all sorts of idiotic gimmicks. It just always gets us in the ass. Kraft is trying to take a football team and turn it into some ****ing conglomerate. Just stick to ****ing football, for ****'s sake, stop being cute and greedy! I'm so tired of this team getting into all sorts of ****, CONSTANTLY!

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Hate to break it to you but owning an NFL team is like owning any business. It exists solely to make money. Kraft leveraging the popularity and success of the team by making different documentaries (etc) is smart business.

TommyBrady12 said:

The pitch forks are out this morning...and the scout was some guy from Boston College?

Patriots should face stiff punishment from NFL over latest controversy

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Pretty dumb article. If it’s found to be strickly a mistake related to the PR dept punish them severely anyway? Lol.

No NFL statement yet. Why did I expect anything different than this. If it was really bad they would of had a statement by now so why haven't they killed this yet like they do everything else for everyone else.

borg said:

Would Cincinnati or the NFL allow a NEP film crew to film the Cincinnati sidelines during live game action (1 week prior to a PTs/ Bengals game)
You know the answer

Did the NEP or the NEP film crew ask Cincinnati or the NFL for permission to film Cincinnati personnel during live game action or did they conveniently avoid such contact?
You know the answer

Yet......

Does NE deserve the benefit of the doubt?

Will “It was an honest mistake” fly this go around?

If a multi-convicted bank robber is found outside of a just-robbed bank holding a bag full of stolen money, will the “honest mistake “ defense justify acquittal?

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OK so you believe the NEP are guilty of Spygate and Deflategate.

No point continuing the discussion if you presume guilt without a legitimate investigation.

Crazy Patriot Guy said:

So we felt better about facing the Ravens, Eagles, Cowboys, Texans and Chiefs than the Bengals? The offense wasn't exactly lights out against any of those teams, so it doesn't change the fact that we filmed the worst team on our schedule.

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You have proof NE wasn’t taping these teams?
Link please

Tottie said:

No NFL statement yet. Why did I expect anything different than this. If it was really bad they would of had a statement by now so why haven't they killed this yet like they do everything else for everyone else.

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Funny that this happened on the heels of a very explosive situation where you can legitimately question if Jerome Bogar was putting money on KC. Funny how these coincidences happen.

Froob said:

Shouldn’t have to have a role in this film. Somebody must have slipped up, I doubt Kraft is actually involved either.

Gotta be some sort of director of marketing that is going to be in trouble.

Unless of course they left last off season and Bill is picking up the slack in the meantime lol.

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I'm thinking there are a few less employees at Kraft Sports Productions this morning...

Uncle Rico said:

When I woke up this morning and checked this site, the top threads were
- Filming in Cinci
- "Not liking what I'm hearing about the locker room"
- Belichick could return to Giants
- Mahomes girlfriend had to be moved
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On the plus side, no AB threads, but, geez.

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You would swear the team was 3-10...so much of this fan base are incredibly entitled and buckle at the least bit of adversity.

No matter what’s on the tape I think it’s almost a certainty we will lose at least a mid round draft pick and be fined for this.

If a connection is found to the football ops meaning BB was lying...it will be much worse both from the league and in public perception. Remember the whole “haven’t won since Spygate” thing?

50-yard-line said:

Saw it on GMA this morning...and after, Robin Roberts asked, 'Why is it always the Patriots?"

Umm, because that's the only one that your show will mention because it's the only one anyone cares about?

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It's always the Patriots because people like her always report it that way. There have been plenty of examples of other teams breaking rules and cheating that never get a mention on GMA.

well....Beleichick didn't believe in his offense vs Kansas City AT HOME to the point that he thought the team had a better chance scoring a touchdown by blocking a punt and running it in OR blocking said punt and only having to drive 25 or 30 yards for a score as opposed to fielding a punt at the 40 and driving 60 yards...

so is it far fetched that the Pats were filming Cincinnati in an effort to make it easier to score on Cincinnati? Yes...does Bill think the offense is so bad that he has to resort to drastic measures to create chances for them to score? No....

Well this is a horrible look and this team won't get any benefit of the doubt. This is either flat out cheating or complete incompetence.

robertweathers said:

OK so you believe the NEP are guilty of Spygate and Deflategate.

No point continuing the discussion if you presume guilt without a legitimate investigation.

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Cameramen were in disguise as they roamed the sidelines.
They were given ‘krafted’ alibis if caught
An ex employee who knew where all the dead bodies were buried busted his ex team just in the first few minutes of the game
NFL Park Ave destroyed the evidence

Other than that.......

And now all major news outlet have picked up the story. Good job NFL. Let it all soak and marinate everywhere so that you have the public's blessing to do whatever you want. They better release the tape.

Teams lining up to submit their cheating claims

mcmurtry86 said:

Hate to break it to you but owning an NFL team is like owning any business. It exists solely to make money. Kraft leveraging the popularity and success of the team by making different documentaries (etc) is smart business.

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Hate to break it to you, but there are 31 other 'business' as you call them, and none of them engage in **** like that. If Kraft wants to make extra money on the side, he should use his own name, and keep the team's name out of it!

borg said:

Cameramen were in disguise as they roamed the sidelines. They were given ‘krafted’ alibis if caught

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Saying you are with Patriots TV is not an alibi. Its called telling the truth. They filmed from the wrong location. Case closed.

You are believing the team is being diabolical here. I am not. I'm not giving them that much credit.