Penalties being considered for the Pats - UPDATED 1/1/2020

TheAdultintheRoom · Dec 9, 2019

Tony2046 said:
Serious measures to ensure the sheople were satisfied?

upstater1 · Dec 9, 2019

40yrpatsfan said:
Just trying to piece together the fact that he shot the field for a quarter, then offered to delete it all when challenged. What innocent witless video guy is going to do those things? But if he's actually say a Steelers fan with PDS, how could he resist the chance to bring down the evil empire? He'd be a PA folk hero forever. He may not have even planned it, just made it up as he went along.

He could have been filming the first quarter to get footage to show what the NFL scout is looking at.

When he was told it was against NFL rules, he offered to delete it all.

Tony2046 · Dec 9, 2019

TheAdultintheRoom said:
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The "Adult in the room" just posted a confused gif.

TB_Helmet · Dec 9, 2019

For anyone on here who think it's remotely possible that the Patriots did this intentionally to gain an advantage in the game, what's more likely:

Scenario 1: The Patriots create a fake documentary crew who creates multiple short videos about members of the organization behind the scenes such as the equipment manager and the lady who handles Super Bowl ticket requests or whatever, and airs them online month ago, and uses that as a front to get credentialed by the Browns into the press box for a single game to film signals (that are hardly or never used because everything is done by radio communication these days) to gain an advantage against the 1-12 Bengals, despite SpyGate having irrevocably tarnished Belichick's legacy 13 years ago and knowing the risks of such an approach due to its relation to that scandal

OR

Scenario 2: The Patriots create a real documentary crew that films an advance scout doing his job against the Bengals, where the crew is created by the front office PR team and consists of contractors who, over the course of the game, happen to get four minutes of footage of the back end of the Bengals' sideline and captures them milling around, which is a technical violation of the rules that confers no advantage whatsoever and to which the Patriots immediately admit and cooperate fully with

?

Tunescribe · Dec 9, 2019

Joker said:
Hey More-on is a banned word!!!

I found that out myself recently. Guess we'll have to rely on imbecile, cretin, boob, idiot, fool, dimwit, dummy, dunce, dingbat, lamebrain, loon, ignoramus, dolt, dumbbell or dope.

StockingAnarchyNumber12 · Dec 9, 2019

Tony2046 said:
The "Adult in the room" just posted a confused gif.

The "baby in the room"

Lavictoire · Dec 9, 2019

sb1 said:
I can just imagine the firestorm if it was the Ravens and not the Bengals. That will work in our favor in this case. This is being looked at as a joke more than anything nefarious.

Yeah, if they wanted to spy, why pick the Bengals to film using this tv production as cover? Surely they are not traveling to each upcoming opponent and using this excuse to film. Only the Bengals? Doesn't make sense. That said, use some common sense and keep the f#$%ing cameras away from there after what happened last time!

bormio · Dec 9, 2019

upstater1 said:
He could have been filming the first quarter to get footage to show what the NFL scout is looking at.

When he was told it was against NFL rules, he offered to delete it all.

I agree, the offer to delete might be totally innocent

TheAdultintheRoom · Dec 9, 2019

Tony2046 said:
The "Adult in the room" just posted a confused gif.

StockingAnarchyNumber12 · Dec 9, 2019

TB_Helmet said:
For anyone on here who think it's remotely possible that the Patriots did this intentionally to gain an advantage in the game, what's more likely:

Scenario 1: The Patriots create a fake documentary crew who creates multiple short videos about members of the organization behind the scenes such as the equipment manager and the lady who handles Super Bowl ticket requests or whatever, and airs them online month ago, and uses that as a front to get credentialed by the Browns into the press box for a single game to film signals (that are hardly or never used because everything is done by radio communication these days) to gain an advantage against the 1-12 Bengals, despite SpyGate having irrevocably tarnished Belichick's legacy 13 years ago and knowing the risks of such an approach due to its relation to that scandal

OR

Scenario 2: The Patriots create a real documentary crew that films an advance scout doing his job against the Bengals, where the crew is created by the front office PR team and consists of contractors who, over the course of the game, happen to get four minutes of footage of the back end of the Bengals' sideline and captures them milling around, which is a technical violation of the rules that confers no advantage whatsoever and to which the Patriots immediately admit and cooperate fully with

?

We'll see.

Either way im a Patriots for life.

StockingAnarchyNumber12 · Dec 9, 2019

Off topic but am i the only one who misses old funny emote?

TheAdultintheRoom · Dec 9, 2019

StockingAnarchyNumber12 said:
The "baby in the room"

fnordcircle · Dec 9, 2019

StockingAnarchyNumber12 said:
Off topic but am i the only one who misses old funny emote?

I like the new one, it stands out better. Old one was too generic. New one isn't great I mean, I'm not trying to get it pregnant behind a middle school or something...

Tony2046 · Dec 9, 2019

TheAdultintheRoom said:
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Help! " Adult in the room" just stole a Deuce meme and used it as an argument.

BaconGrundleCandy · Dec 10, 2019

StockingAnarchyNumber12 said:
Im not saying we are cheaters and even if we are ill still be a fan. Im just going worst case saying if video is nefarious. If its not, all good.

All good.

I was just speaking to the fact that w/e signals are used are few & far between in the NFL nowadays. It's like college football in that respect.

Again imo it'll be clear from the footage recovered.

Novanglus · Dec 10, 2019

Dough Kyed (NESN) raises some interesting points:

— Part of the advance scout’s job is to watch the sideline of the team they’ll be playing. There’s some logic to shooting the sideline if the videographer believed he could use it as B-roll to show a scout’s role for the docuseries. Clearly, that footage could not have been used.

— The Patriots were shooting in the press box in front of media and reportedly Bengals scouts. That seems excessively reckless to knowingly break rules in front of the team being filmed and in front of media members who could report on the act. It doesn’t necessarily pass the smell test that the Patriots would be so brazen in breaking the rules.

— It also seems odd that the football staff would trust their production team, which included independent contractors, to assist them in cheating without eventually spilling the beans. A football staffer could fear repercussions for snitching. A production staffer eventually could move out of football and hold no loyalty to the Patriots.

Patriots’ Latest Controversy Is Complicated Situation For NFL To Penalize

Ice_Ice_Brady · Dec 10, 2019

Feel like I’m talking to like a conspiracy theorist, but after all the lies with Walsh’s Rams practice tape (hey, it turns out he’s lying and doesn’t actually have the tape) Deflategate about k-balls (hey, it turns out the NFL ha does them), fake ball pressures (hey, it turns out those were flat out lies), and the immediate jumping to conclusions when Tripping Tomlin b*tched and moaned about the headsets (hey, turns out the NFL handles the communications), you’d be stupid to take ANY media reports at face value, other than there being an allegation that the league is looking at.

Example: someone on the Bengals CLAIMS the tapes showed the sidelines and field of play for an entire quarter.

This is just a “well, a guy on the opponent said it’s true, so let’s run with it” that always turns these things into scandals. As Pats fans we should at least be skeptical of anything that isn’t proven, and even skeptical of things that are supposedly proven, until there is actual, indisputable evidence of something.

sb1 · Dec 10, 2019

Novanglus said:
Dough Kyed (NESN) raises some interesting points:

— Part of the advance scout’s job is to watch the sideline of the team they’ll be playing. There’s some logic to shooting the sideline if the videographer believed he could use it as B-roll to show a scout’s role for the docuseries. Clearly, that footage could not have been used.

— The Patriots were shooting in the press box in front of media and reportedly Bengals scouts. That seems excessively reckless to knowingly break rules in front of the team being filmed and in front of media members who could report on the act. It doesn’t necessarily pass the smell test that the Patriots would be so brazen in breaking the rules.

— It also seems odd that the football staff would trust their production team, which included independent contractors, to assist them in cheating without eventually spilling the beans. A football staffer could fear repercussions for snitching. A production staffer eventually could move out of football and hold no loyalty to the Patriots.

Patriots’ Latest Controversy Is Complicated Situation For NFL To Penalize

there’s also this point and it’s a plausible one.
— A pro scout would really only attend a game of the Patriots’ next opponent during the regular season. If it seems at all fishy this went down at a Bengals game with Cincinnati next on the schedule, that’s why

Either way what happens next depends on what the tape shows.

Master Yates · Dec 10, 2019

Seriously, some posters here need to go root for a new football team. Or better yet, stop pretending that you root for the Patriots. Like the Pats and BB are going to risk everything to go spy on the freaking Bengals. Hilarious how fragile some people here are. Are you like this in everyday life?

Tony2046 · Dec 10, 2019

TheAdultintheRoom said:
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Help! The "Adult in the room" is posting quoteless memes.

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