I hate Jerome Boger

QuantumMechanic said:

Say NE had scored at the buzzer or with very little time left to make it 22-23. PAT to try to go to OT or go for the win right there?

On the one hand the offense might never be able to move it enough to get a FG or better in OT. On the other hand, for the same reason who could trust them to score the two?

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The defense held the chiefs to 3 pts in the second half. I think you kick the extra point and go to OT.

QuantumMechanic said:

4, not 14. Both TD-eliminating mistakes were on the same possession. And NE got a FG, not zero.

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11 points actually, cause there were 3 potential TD-eliminating mistakes including the missed PI, which was a separate drive.

I’ll almost never complain about the refs because I figure the bad calls usually even out but this game was the exception. Just an absolute train wreck of game as far as officiating. Poor spots, bad PI calls and no calls, and blowing plays dead they should’ve let play out. The Kelce fumble recovery likely cost us a TD and ruling Harry out of bounds definitely cost us 4. The refs are taught to let potential TD’s and turnovers play out and overturn them if need be on an automatic review. Jerome Boger being the simpleton that he is didn’t do that (or have his crew do that) and it dramatically changed the game.

At least Boger actually seems to try to make the right call. Some of his crew, however . . . it was ugly yesterday and the Pats bore the brunt of the bad calls.

TheAdultintheRoom said:

Jerome Boger has a very small penis.

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Boger has taken over from Jeff Triplette as the worst official in the league and most everybody knows this. There were two marquee games this weekend, and this was one of them. For the NFL to assign this crew to this game indicates that the league couldn’t care less about the quality of the officiating and isn’t really worried about the integrity of the sport. They should be.

Me too. The refs were directly responsible for taking at least 11 points off the board for us.

1st challenge - should have overturned it on 2 DIFFERENT issues. First, illegal pick play when Travis Kelsey stuck his *** out and threw Gilmore off his defense; THEN the guy did not have control of the ball until he moved backwards behind the line to gain. Should have been 4th and 1 even if you weren't going to call the pick play. Terrible and made us lose the ability to challenge bone-headed calls or non-calls later on, and didn't KC score a FG on this drive?

2nd challenge - if this play had been called correctly when it happened, Stephan Gilmore would have scored. There were no Chiefs players in front of him or anywhere near him when he picked up the fumble and started running. Instead they call it wrong and blow the whistle, leading to us getting the ball back on something like the 35 yard line, we stall and get no points. We were also forced to use our remaining challenge. LOSS OF 7 POINTS.

N'Keal Harry TD- he clearly scored, Boger F'd it up and we had no ability to challenge the play. We got a FG on the drive, but we actually scored 7. LOSS OF 4 POINTS.

This doesn't even account for the mugging of Philip Dorsett on the last drive that resembled the very play in the playoff game last year against NO that CAUSED the rule change, allowing you to challenge a non-call of PI. But, I guess it doesn't matter because even if we had one more challenge we would have had to use it to get them to correctly call the Harry TD.

I can't remember the last time I blamed a loss on the refs. Maybe the playoff game in Denver in 2005. They were directly responsible for this loss, however, and should be fired today.

Were we perfect? Nope. Brady threw a bone-headed INT into triple coverage that resulted in a TD for KC. And for cripes sake O-line, you can't allow the other team to tee off on Brady on 3rd down EVERY SINGLE TIME. The thing is, despite our continuing problems, we played well enough to win and we were robbed. We've unfortunately become a team that (at least at the moment) cannot overcome mistakes by the refs, and they made multiple, game-changing ones.

IF we get to see KC again in the playoffs, I feel pretty good about our chances, but damn that was a tough loss.

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Subpar? That was the worst officiating I have ever seen.

Spiral said:

Boger has taken over from Jeff Triplette as the worst official in the league and most everybody knows this. There were two marquee games this weekend, and this was one of them. For the NFL to assign this crew to this game indicates that the league couldn’t care less about the quality of the officiating and isn’t really worried about the integrity of the sport. They should be.

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I actually turned to my daughter and said this to her during the game, "Boger is the new Jeff Triplette." GRRRR.

TB_Helmet said:

I get what you’re saying and I never like blaming the refs. I hate when fans do that because there are a ton of games where they do it and it’s not warranted and it sounds like whining. It also happens on this board a lot and it’s whiny here too.

BUT there are occasionally some games where, despite the Pats playing badly, they still very likely would have won except for some really, really bad calls. There are probably fewer than 5 of those in the Belichick era. This was one of them. These were a series of egregious whiffs by the refs in a short timespan. There were three horrible calls and any of the three being different would have dramatically changed the outlook.

I think it's fair to put this one on the refs. Even if the Pats didn't play that well, they played well enough to win against a very good opponent. That's why it's important to not be one of those fans who criticize the refs after every loss, because you lose credibility for times like this when it's very well deserved criticism.

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Well of course the usual concern trolls & doom-and-gloomers will act like the people complaining are complaining like chiefs fans were when Dee Ford was legitimately off-side or like the Texans did on that PI a few weeks ago yet they went on to lose 41-9. The Harry call is slightly more egregious than the Saints non-PI call, seeing is how that would have only given Saints a 1st down but there was no guarantee they would score. Harry actually scored and the Pats at the end would have been kicking a FG to tie and send it to OT. And it's even more egregious seeing is how this was immediately after Gilmore recovered a clear fumble and would have scored but they blew it dead

So yes this game can legitimately be put on the officials by blowing a whistle for a fumble recovery when they could have let it play and had "AUTOMATIC REVIEW" decide and then they did it just literally a few plays later by calling Harry out even though they guessed when they could have signaled TD and had "AUTOMATIC REVIEW" decide.

They do either of those and the Pats are kicking a FG for OT instead of needing a TD to tie. Which then gives them a 50/50 shot

It also wipes out the defenses tremendous play in the 2nd half, holding them to 3 points and 97 yards.

Just sheer incompetency by the refs and the doom-and-gloomer can get f**cked saying the Pats should have been better. HEY MORONS they legitimately would have scored as many points as the chiefs did in regulation, SO AS A TEAM, they did just as much as the chiefs did.

KontradictioN said:

Subpar? That was the worst officiating I have ever seen.

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PP2 said:

Worst instance of officiating that I have ever seen in 30 plus years of being a fan of this team.

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Also how about the intentional grounding boger called even though an eligible receiver was literally 5 yards in front of him

I know he picked it up but the fact that he threw it just show how incompetent he is

One thing I haven't seen mentioned here is the play where the KC player drove Gilmore ten yards out of bounds after the whistle. How was that not a penalty?

Listening to Boger’s explanation makes me wonder if he even knows the names of the other guys on his crew.

Boger is the Angel Hernandez of the NFL.

Naturally, this would be a nightmare game for the NFL when Boger drops another deuce of a game...

except when it hurts the Patriots, then oh well, we messed up.

venecol said:

I hate these whinny threads. Patriots offense wasn't good enough to win. Period.

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Maybe, maybe not but that doesn't excuse the worst officiating job I've ever seen in one game. Complete incompetence. Much like your efforts to troll the board

The not so funny part is that I've seen two games just this year that are in the hunt for worse officiated game, the Dallas/Jete game and the GB/Lions game.

1960Pats said:

I'm not waiting for Bill.

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These sound like bandwagon fan justifications..oh I'm done when BB and or Brady are gone aka when the team is likely to suck but until then I'm a total die hard!