Curran (again) - Are these Tom Brady's final days with the Patriots?

Don't forget, TBs mother and father love them some Tom Curran, wouldn't be surprised if this is where his info is coming from.

QuantumMechanic said:

Glad to see you finally admit you’re not a Patriots fan. Can’t say I’m surprised.

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Meh, whatever you say. I’m a Patriots fan, I root for them always. But I would for Brady against them, especially if they drive him away.

I’m surprised you didn’t hit disagree on a post for once. How mature of you.

This might be the Brady camp’s way of pressuring the pats to do something about the receiver situation.

I think he retires. His "play to 45 thing", yeah it's no fun when your offense is weaker than foxborough's jv team.

He's selling his house, if he stays here will he commute to foxborough from ct?

I think he wanted to skip the year long sendoff ballwashing, humble guy that he is. I would put it 15% he plays here next year. Maybe 10% he plays elsewhere. 75% he hangs it up.

Tom Brady, it's been an honor sir!

Its entirely possible... he's looked very frustrated and almost like he isn't having much fun this last month or so. Its got to be frustrating to be at such a pinnacle of your profession in terms of knowledge and skill, but be held back by inferior talent on the offensive side of the ball. At his age, its a clock just quickly ticking away and I'm sure he also has an incredible sense of urgency about him

He may not want to spend his last years trying to coach young skill players on the basics of the offense in hopes that they can reliably run a route. He's still healthy enough to be slinging the ball and putting up numbers, so that has to be extra frustrating.

TommyBrady12 said:

Oh right, I forgot Bill and Josh are coaching the Giants this weekend . If they can salvage a decent year out of Cassel, they can get something out of Eli, even at age 39.

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the 2008 Pats had a terrific OL, prime Welker, still very good Moss and a bunch of other useful weapons. Against a very very weak set of opposing defenses

next year’s Pats don’t have anyone as good as that walking through the door. Edelman is great but he’s getting older and showing the first signs signs of decline.

SVN said:

Curran: Are these Brady's final days with the Patriots?

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No they aren't.

mcmurtry86 said:

the 2008 Pats had a terrific OL, prime Welker, still very good Moss and a bunch of other useful weapons. Against a very very weak set of opposing defenses

next year’s Pats don’t have anyone as good as that walking through the door. Edelman is great but he’s getting older and showing the first signs signs of decline.

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Edelman is on his way of having his best season probably of his career but he has a bunch of jags around him at wr so he might get that extra attention to him.

The Brandon Five said:

If true, that's weird. I think Tom values winning above all and having the highest-paid WR's does not appear to correlate well with accomplishing that. Looking at this list, how many of these teams are SB bound?

NFL's highest paid wide receivers (average salary per year):

• 1. Browns WR Odell Beckham Jr.: $18 million
• 2. Raiders WR Antonio Brown: $16.7 million
• 3. Buccaneers WR Mike Evans: $16.5 million
• 4. Texans WR DeAndre Hopkins: $16.2 million
• 5. Rams WR Brandin Cooks: $16.2 million
• 6. Vikings WR Adam Thielen: $16.2 million
• 7. Chiefs WR Sammy Watkins: $16 million
• 8. Browns WR Jarvis Landry: $15.1 million
• 9. Bengals WR A.J. Green: $15 million
• 10. Packers WR Davante Adams: $14.5 million

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We were paying $9m for Brown.

dannydyn said:

Cook was a waste. Our offense was never built (outside the Moss years) for outside, deep routes. And Cook never manged to get proper separation to boot. AB is a MUCH better fit in this system.

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This system is MADE for AB. He would be flying.

RIpats88 said:

And if so, then a bigger question is why did we trade jimmy if brady is leaving 2 years later.

Trading Jimmy meant we were all in on brady.

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The ship on keeping Garoppolo set sail after Brady's two-year extension in 2016, and capsized after SB51.

I was a New England Patriots fan long before I'd ever heard of Tom Brady.
And I will be a New England Patriots fan long after Brady hangs em up.
While he's here I love him. Just like I loved John Hannah, Russ Francis, Teddy, Big Vince and Gronk, while they were here.
I am first and foremost a Pats fan. Brady doesn't supersede my love for the team.

BelizePats said:

I was a New England Patriots fan long before I'd ever heard of Tom Brady.
And I will be a New England Patriots fan long after Brady hangs em up.
While he's here I love him. Just like I loved John Hannah, Russ Francis, Teddy, Big Vince and Gronk, while they were here.
I am first and foremost a Pats fan. Brady doesn't supersede my love for the team.

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Me too but Curran said it with much conviction.

Can't say that I worry about Brady's final days - he owes us nothing.

I hope whatever he decides is what's best for his family this time.

robertweathers said:

No they aren't.

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It's not up to Brady alone. The Pats have to want him back too. If the Pats decide that Brady is struggling and it's time to move on, Brady's desire to remain a Patriot doesn't matter. I think Brady coming back in 2020 depends on how he does these next couple of months. It doesn't necessarily have to be a SB appearance, but I would think the offense has to get a lot better.

It will damn near kill me to see Brady suit up for another team.

I don't think Brady would find a better suitor than the Patriots if he were to seriously explore FA for the following reasons:

a.) He is going to be based in CT. The nearest teams will be NJY, NYG, and the Pats. The former 2 just spent a first round pick on a QB.

b.) What other team would pay him 30M a year? Even on an one year deal? Oakland...to sell tickets...maybe...the Chargers to sell PSL's for the new stadium...maybe....maybe even the Bears to name a few...but any other team pretty much doesn't have an attendance problem or already has an established QB or already is in rebuilding mode.

c.) Despite the lack of game breakers in Foxboro....in 2020...the Patriots D will lose some players(DMac, KVN, and Collins I believe), but probably still be ranked in the top 10....N'Keal Harry and Meyers will take a step forward....Edelman will be half a step slower...Snau will have more experience in the system...and we are very likely to upgrade at TE (no way to go, but up and FA's avail like Henry, Hooper, Ebron, Doyle, Eifert)...and get Develin back. I think the only MAJOR FA we have on the offensive side other than Brady is Thuney. There are FA WR's like AJ Green (if healthy), Fitz (long in the tooth, but can make plays), Amari Cooper (doubtful tho), and etc.... if we get some healthy bodies all year from August to January.....we should be much better on offense.

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IMO, it's retirement or play for the Pats in 2020. Personally, if I were BB...I'd just write a check with a HUGE signing bonus and back load salaries on the end. Something like 3 years 100M with a 51M signing bonus and salaries of 10, 15, and 24M....for cap numbers of 27M, 32M, and 41M. Then we can renegotiate the salaries every year if needed....and cut Brady before year 3 for a 17M dead money hit.

Right now, I don't care if Brady blows up our cap...I want to watch him play all the way to the bitter end.......

Brady finishing out his career with another team will hurt for the rest of my life.

I really hope he retires before it comes to that.

I tell ya this: The market isn’t believing it, at least not at this time. If people thought this was it for Tom, the prices of his final regular season home game and also the home playoffs which would potentially be his final home game ever, would be through the roof. I saved my tickets on just such a speculation.

QuantumMechanic said:

Glad to see you finally admit you’re not a Patriots fan. Can’t say I’m surprised.

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I don't think rooting for Brady would make someone not a Pats fan. If the Pats and Brady have a bitter breakup, and he ends up somewhere other than like the Jets or something, I'll probably root for him against the Pats in the future. Not because I'm not a Pats fan, but because Brady has brought a ton of joy to my life for the better part of 20 specifically because I'm a Pats fan. As far as I'm concerned he's done more for my enjoyment of the sport than anyone else, Belichick and Kraft included.

I also rooted for Paul Pierce throughout his post-Celtics career, and when Bourque made a run at the Stanley Cup with the Avalanche I rooted for him then too. Some people root exclusively for the laundry, and that's fine, while others develop intense loyalty to individual players on the teams they support. I'd expect most of us fall into some weird middle-ground/hybrid area that encompasses elements of both. I personally tilt more to the direction of developing loyalty to a small group of players who stick around for a notably long time and help us to achieve a notable degree of success and conduct themselves in a way I appreciate while doing it. If some people think that makes me not a fan then I guess that's their prerogative but it just strikes me as a weird kind of gatekeeping. But I've been called a non-fan because I still like Garoppolo and root for him when the niners are playing some random NFC team that has no bearing on the Pats, so I realize that people have weird and wildly divergent standards I guess.

fnordcircle said:

Brady finishing out his career with another team will hurt for the rest of my life.

I really hope he retires before it comes to that.

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It’d be almost as bad as when fourierseries was banned