Patriot's players still open to Antonio Brown reunion.

Ring 6 · Dec 3, 2019

Oswlek said:
It did during the Jax, Detroit, TN and Pitt games.

To your point, those were a sampling and this appears to be a more consistent problem. At the same time, NE was not nearly the dominant running team in the regular season that they became in the playoffs. It was just something they were pretty good at which, partly due to necessity and partly due to opportunity, they adopted as a primary approach. Thankfully they were terrific at once they started focusing all their efforts on it.

I think that's what the team is still looking for. That "pretty good" skill that can be massaged into excellence by January. If I'm right, this helps explain the scattershot offensive approach we've been seeing lately.

All that said, I don't think anyone was ignorant to the offensive issues. No one appeared to question your recognition, just your patience.

Last year the team scored 27.3 ppg 4th in the nfl
This year 26.8 6th.
The difference is 2 FGs. (Or the 6 missed PATs).
First downs are down 365, 22.8 per game to 261, 21.8 per game.
Rushing yards are down from 2037, 127/game to 1156 96/game
Passing yards are about identical 4258, 266/game to 3173, 264/game

Production is not that far off.

the defending champs are 10-2 with 3 home games (where they have won 21 in a row) and at 1-11 Cincy left.

Patjew · Dec 3, 2019

robertweathers said:
AB is unavailable as he is under investigation.

The Kraft blaming has morphed into absurdity.

If you want to blame someone , blame AB . If he stayed off his phone ,exercised some self control and though about his teammates more than himself he'd still be playing.

God forbid we hold players accountable

Of course AB is first to blame.

And then Kraft is second. He could be the bigger man here.

Third person to blame is you I guess.

gobesmug · Dec 3, 2019

Ring 6 said:
Last year the team scored 27.3 ppg 4th in the nfl
This year 26.8 6th.
The difference is 2 FGs. (Or the 6 missed PATs).
First downs are down 365, 22.8 per game to 261, 21.8 per game.
Rushing yards are down from 2037, 127/game to 1156 96/game
Passing yards are about identical 4258, 266/game to 3173, 264/game

Production is not that far off.

the defending champs are 10-2 with 3 home games (where they have won 21 in a row) and at 1-11 Cincy left.

Those stats are skewed. This pats defense and special teams have given this team a lot of points. Just watching the game, every first down is struggle.

In years past the offense would move the ball with ease and sometimes struggle in the red zone. Now it can't get past the 50. If it wasn't for this historic defense, this team would not be 10-2

thecore762 · Dec 3, 2019

Watching this team play on offense is like watching Canadian geese’s eating grass and looking at you confused.

LuRkeR1978 · Dec 3, 2019

This is insane, so many players with ACTUAL CRIMINAL CONVICTIONS have sat for far far less time than AB. This is more Anti-Pats nonsense, and I maintain my opinion of the League's Joke Status.

thecore762 · Dec 3, 2019

Deus Irae · Dec 3, 2019

At this point, it's borderline criminal negligence not to have Brown back on the team.

Bourne Again Christian · Dec 3, 2019

So here is why we need Antonio Brown back on the team.

A friend of mine has a interesting theory about the Meyers and Brady disconnect on the third down play.
Meyers doesnt trust Bradys arm to throw it deep while rolling out.
So knowing his QBs handicap he comes back to towards Tom where the ball can actually be delivered.
Jacobi is just scared to say why he came back towards Tom.
Vs keep running down the field.
Now I knows deep ball has never been his biggest strength.
But this is becoming Chad Pennington or the end of Mannings career duck territory.

Thoughts?

Ring 6 · Dec 3, 2019

gobesmug said:
Those stats are skewed. This pats defense and special teams have given this team a lot of points. Just watching the game, every first down is struggle.

In years past the offense would move the ball with ease and sometimes struggle in the red zone. Now it can't get past the 50. If it wasn't for this historic defense, this team would not be 10-2

Facts are facts.
D and sts scored 4 TDs last year, 6 this year.
The almost identical numbers in first downs and passing yards contradicts your impression.

personally I don’t care why they are 10-2, I care that they are 10-2.

Ring 6 · Dec 3, 2019

ChrisR2223 said:
So here is why we need Antonio Brown back on the team.

A friend of mine has a interesting theory about the Meyers and Brady disconnect on the third down play.
Meyers doesnt trust Bradys arm to throw it deep while rolling out.
So knowing his QBs handicap he comes back to towards Tom where the ball can actually be delivered.
Jacobi is just scared to say why he came back towards Tom.
Vs keep running down the field.
Now I knows deep ball has never been his biggest strength.
But this is becoming Chad Pennington or the end of Mannings career duck territory.

Thoughts?

Clearly you and your friend don’t watch the games.

Bourne Again Christian · Dec 3, 2019

Ring 6 said:
Clearly you and your friend don’t watch the games.

Its a fact that the deep ball hasnt been there for a while for Tom and the throws are not on point.

Ring 6 said:
Clearly you and your friend don’t watch the games.

His Passing Numbers Don't Lie: Tom Brady Really Is Getting Old

Deus Irae · Dec 3, 2019

ChrisR2223 said:
Its a fact that the deep ball hasnt been there for a while for Tom and the throws are not on point.

No, it's not.

maust · Dec 3, 2019

Patjew said:
Of course AB is first to blame.

And then Kraft is second. He could be the bigger man here.

Third person to blame is you I guess.

PJ serving up the blame pie like a boss

supafly · Dec 3, 2019

Deus Irae said:
No, it's not.

I thought he looked pretty good on deep passes when Cooks was here.

Deus Irae · Dec 3, 2019

supafly said:
I thought he looked pretty good on deep passes when Cooks was here.

We've been hearing the myth of Brady not being accurate deep for a long time. One day it might even be true.

Even at age 42 Tom Brady is one of the most accurate deep-ball quarterbacks in the NFL this season

Tom Brady Among the Best Deep Ball Passers in Football

gobesmug · Dec 3, 2019

Ring 6 said:
Facts are facts.
D and sts scored 4 TDs last year, 6 this year.
The almost identical numbers in first downs and passing yards contradicts your impression.

personally I don’t care why they are 10-2, I care that they are 10-2.

Facts are facts.

2018 offense, which was still a decline from previous years.

3rd conv 40.8%, 4th down conv 50%, Redzone TD 59.6%.

This year.

3rd down conv 38.8%, 4th down conv 44.4%, Red Zone 49%.

So yeah, this year's offense is not as efficient, which the data shows.

Again, facts are facts.

Ring 6 · Dec 3, 2019

ChrisR2223 said:
Its a fact that the deep ball hasnt been there for a while for Tom and the throws are not on point.

His Passing Numbers Don't Lie: Tom Brady Really Is Getting Old

No it isn’t a fact.

But nice article written as Brady embarked upon leading his team to a Sb championship.
Certainly the idiot who wrote is someone you consider an expert.

Ring 6 · Dec 3, 2019

gobesmug said:
Facts are facts.

2018 offense, which was still a decline from previous years.

3rd conv 40.8%, 4th down conv 50%, Redzone TD 59.6%.

This year.

3rd down conv 38.8%, 4th down conv 44.4%, Red Zone 49%.

So yeah, this year's offense is not as efficient, which the data shows.

Again, facts are facts.

It’s not that different.
You are talking about 3 3rd down conversions in 12 games.
Red zone is down, but points barely are.

Not sure why you think every statistic needs to be better than last year to make the point that it isn’t that big of a drop off. Which it isn’t.

Kdo5 · Dec 3, 2019

I want AB rumor tweets. I don’t care if it’s from Sharks of Vegas. I just need a glimmer of hope.

TN patriot fan · Dec 3, 2019

Patjew said:
Of course AB is first to blame.

And then Kraft is second. He could be the bigger man here.

Third person to blame is you I guess.

I think Robert should volunteer to mediate between Kraft and AB.

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