Two Curran downers re: Brady

Bourne Again Christian · Nov 19, 2019

I was at the game absolutely he is declining Brady in his prime made everyone better.
However at worst he is a top 15 QB talent wise.
However he is number 1 in game situations he knows that to do.
He won’t lose you many games.
Can he rally behind 28 points again no no he can not.
Michel is a such a disappointment I hated the pick he made me eat my words in the playoffs but if he doesn’t have a injury he is coming back from and we don’t know he now Plays like a jag.
Awful waste of a first rounder please let Caserio go to Houston if that was his pick.
Chubb is 5 times the back and we never take backs early I don’t understand.
Having no running game no deep threat and no o line protection will look anyone look Less than Great.
However Brady in the past would of shined this up a little bit and talked about the guys in a glowing fashion.
He’s been more Peyton with his words with talking about inexperience and vocally acknowledging his frustration.
Build the Statue but I wouldn’t be shocked to see Stidham the guy next year using Brady’s cap to keep the defense intact.
Draft receivers and have a QB like Stidham who won’t stop looking their way when they make a mistake.
I’m sorry that’s my take dislike away.

Kdo5 · Nov 19, 2019

Tunescribe said:
Poor, beleaguered, downtrodden Tom. If only he had some success to fondly look back upon. Or movie star looks, lotsa money, a supermodel wife, adoring children and a mansion to help him forget his troubles. Oh, wait ...

It’s depressing to watch Patriots fandom turning on Brady, but not entirely surprising. If he bails next season or retires and we inevitably begin our decline into mediocrity and irrelevancy we all deserve it as a fan base for being entitled, ungrateful ****s.

He has given it all for the organization and the fans for near twenty years and probably been the #1 reason for the greatest dynasty the sport has ever witnessed. God forbid he exhibit frustration at age 42 that they’ve provided dismal talent to work with for two straight seasons. He isn’t in his prime but he is still damn good when provided some help and when the time arrives to perform in the clutch he delivers better than anyone in the league.

So a collective **** you and enjoy the teams descent toward the bottom of the AFC East in the near future.

203Pat · Nov 19, 2019

Speaking of AB he’s apologizing to Kraft on Instagram. Can’t wait for the speculation on this one.

TommyD4207 · Nov 19, 2019

Adam Seward said:
His OL is injured, AB and JG were here and now gone.

This offense was executing teams early on this season and with current developments noted above, struggling hard.

Let’s see what holds more weight:

Tom has fallen off
Tom had the carpet pulled out from under him

Meh. They won in 2016 with no Gronkowski, an equivalent line, equivalent-at-best wide receivers, and a far inferior defense.

Saying 'he had the rug pulled out from under him' is pretty disingenuous. No Andrews hurts. No Wynn for most of the year has hurt. Sorry, this WR crew isn't half as bad as 2006 or 2013. Not even in the same zip code.

sean10mm · Nov 19, 2019

I've never been much of a fan of the sports writer pop psych fanfiction genre. WHAT IS HE REALLY ~FEELING~ is something I could not possibly care less about.

The offense was bad and he's mad, and we'd be pissed if he wasn't and it would be spun as WHY DOESN'T HE CARE MORE HE'S JUST COASTING

And the disloyalty of chowderhead Pats fans isn't a stunner but you still hate to see it.

Kontradiction · Nov 19, 2019

TommyD4207 said:
Sorry, this just sounds a lot like the 'If Drew had an offensive line..." argument to me.

The key indicator to me, is the interceptions, near interceptions, and interceptions in the red zone. Eagles flat out dropped three of them on Sunday. If you want to blame the offensive line or receivers for that, you're within your right to do so. It's an accuracy issue. He can rip a couple of throws in a row, but not 20 in a row like he used to, without throwing one in the dirt, or worse, into a defender's jersey.

Nothing's 100% certain, but imagine if that's not Tom Brady out there, but it's oh, I dunno, Eli Manning.

This is what the end looks like, even if it's not completely over, and I think under the right conditions (Dome vs. Houston with a weak defense), he's going to look great. He's not Peyton at the end, yet, if he ever will be, because I don't think Brady has any motivation to stick around for a paycheck (which Kraft would give him if he went over Belichick's head again).

But if this isn't the end, it sure looks like it. That said, the Patriots can absolutely win with 'crafty Brady gutting it out for one last year' this year, no question, especially if they get home field.

It's an unpopular opinion for lots of people I'm sure, so load up on the Red Xs.

So how are you explaining the way he looked in September vs the way he looks now? When the year started, he was the best quarterback in football. Did he decline suddenly and drastically in six weeks or are there other variables that could possibly be at play here?

SammyBlueCat · Nov 19, 2019

KontradictioN said:
So how are you explaining the way he looked in September vs the way he looks now? When the year started, he was the best quarterback in football. Did he decline suddenly and drastically in six weeks or are there other variables that could possibly be at play here?

Not sure about that. The Defense was setting the offense up for success. They were still awkward to watch.

Sicilian · Nov 19, 2019

203Pat said:
This right here. The same fickle imbeciles defending Sony and Newhouse are the first ones to bash Brady for not being all sunshine and rainbows. The offense isn’t playing well and he’s pissed. He has every right to be pissed. He’s 42 and he knows he doesn’t get to play forever and he’s stuck with the single worst left tackle he’s ever had by a mile, a possession receiver we traded a second for, an 83 year old TE backed up by a couple of injury prone JAGs, a plodder of an RB who offers nearly nothing in the passing game, and his go-to guy gets doubled constantly. I hate to say it (and even believe it) but I really think he wished we kept AB.

You make it sound like all of these things were Plan A. I get he's frustrated by the offensive struggles, he's not used to them. But he's not blaming any of those guys, and I doubt he's blaming BB for not trying to give him better. It's been a snake bitten year.

sean10mm · Nov 19, 2019

TommyD4207 said:
Meh. They won in 2016 with no Gronkowski, an equivalent line

That's not even close to true LMAO

Kdo5 · Nov 19, 2019

sean10mm said:
I've never been much of a fan of the sports writer pop psych fanfiction genre. WHAT IS HE REALLY ~FEELING~ is something I could not possibly care less about.

The offense was bad and he's mad, and we'd be pissed if he wasn't and it would be spun as WHY DOESN'T HE CARE MORE HE'S JUST COASTING

And the disloyalty of chowderhead Pats fans isn't a stunner but you still hate to see it.

Great post. He is pissed because the offense ****ing sucks and he is a competitor and wants the unit as a whole to function better.

203Pat · Nov 19, 2019

Sicilian said:
You make it sound like all of these things were Plan A. I get he's frustrated by the offensive struggles, he's not used to them. But he's not blaming any of those guys, and I doubt he's blaming BB for not trying to give him better. It's been a snake bitten year.

I’m not saying he’s blaming anyone for anything. I’m saying he knows what we all know, his uplifting cast is weak and it’s effecting his play.

Tony2046 · Nov 19, 2019

Family said:
Yes they won the most recent Super Bowl scoring 13 points.

With Gronk, Devlin, Andrews etc. Etc. Etc.

SVN · Nov 19, 2019

patfanken said:
I'm getting tired of Curran talking about Brady's "low ball" contract offers. Brady has been paid at or near the top of the market for a great majority of his career. At the end he's missing out on the explosion of the QB market that's been happening the last few years. But he ALSO must know that it would be extraordinarily stupid for his team to invest a top of the market contract on a 42 year old QB.

Also Brady has ALWAYS wisely traded the opportunity to get the last dollar in order to have a competitive team to surround him. If he wants to milk the last dollar out of the Pats, (money that wouldn't change his lifestyle one iota), he should be the one to tell Joe Thuney, or Jaime Collins, or any of the other Pats FA's that would like to stay here, that they can't get "their's" because he needs even more of "his".

If Brady truly feels "underappreciated" and "under paid" and is mad about it then F*CK HIM. Thanks for all the years that you weren't an as*hole, but I rooted for Tom Brady, NOT Tom Baby.

But frankly I think this is a media narrative perhaps fed by those surrounding Brady who have their own agendas. I'm hoping Brady is STILL the guy he's always been, just frustrated that the offense isn't contributing as much to this successful season as he'd like. I get that. But maybe someone should tell him that his pouting all the time is not only bad for the team, but it makes it look like he is blaming everyone ELSE on the offense for the results.

Clearly there is a lot of speculation on curran's part. Brady is always pissed when he or the offense plays like crap. This it not much different. People are adding his reaction with his age and contract and jumping to conclusions.

Sicilian · Nov 19, 2019

203Pat said:
I’m not saying he’s blaming anyone for anything. I’m saying he knows what we all know, his uplifting cast is weak and it’s effecting his play.

And see, again, you're taking it a step farther than I'm willing to go. We know he's frustrated with how the offense is playing, but pretending we know what he's thinking (and why he thinks it) is just projecting our own opinions onto him.

TommyD4207 · Nov 19, 2019

KontradictioN said:
So how are you explaining the way he looked in September vs the way he looks now? When the year started, he was the best quarterback in football. Did he decline suddenly and drastically in six weeks or are there other variables that could possibly be at play here?

Yes, that's how it usually works.

That said, I can't say he was the best QB in football in September. The pinpoint accuracy we're used to, simply wasn't there. Still good, better than most guys, but he wasn't 2016 Brady.

203Pat · Nov 19, 2019

Sicilian said:
And see, again, you're taking it a step farther than I'm willing to go. We know he's frustrated with how the offense is playing, but pretending we know what he's thinking (and why he thinks it) is just projecting our own opinions onto him.

Very well may be. He could just be frustrated with himself but no one really knows.

Kdo5 · Nov 19, 2019

Tony2046 said:
With Gronk, Devlin, Andrews etc. Etc. Etc.

And with #4 at best Philip Dorsett functioning as our #2 receiver.

bormio · Nov 19, 2019

Drama equals clicks. That is what this article is.

SVN · Nov 19, 2019

There was CHB article and one like this https://weei.radio.com/articles/column/tom-brady-s-negativity-following-wins-actually-productive where they say brady is not taking personal accountability.
No media in the country likes to turn on its athletes with pride than boston. Wait till brady retires , they will kill him in the press.

Kontradiction · Nov 19, 2019

TommyD4207 said:
Yes, that's how it usually works.

That said, I can't say he was the best QB in football in September. The pinpoint accuracy we're used to, simply wasn't there. Still good, better than most guys, but he wasn't 2016 Brady.

No, that’s not the way declines usually work. He thew for 1,061 yards, 7 TDS, and 1 INT. Then he lost Develin and the threat of the ground game between the tackles, Wynn, Brown, and had Edelman dealing with injury halfway through the Jets game. Then he lost Gordon. 2016 Brady isn’t making that work, either.

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