Tomlinson cut

kennyb said:

If Brady picks up the phone, Gronk will return. No one can refuse the grace and majesty of Brady. It would be like telling Jesus to get lost.

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And the almighty GOD that is the Salary Cap will proclaim a resounding "NO!" And there shall be great earthquakes, and famines and pestilences; and there will be fearful sights and great signs from heaven.

Biffins said:

Brady also said he'd never do that. He's happy for Gronk. And he's focused on the season.

It's tough to even argue that he should. I can imagine the call "Gronk, we really need you man. We're only 8-0 but with you out there we could have been doing so much better!".

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Brady admitted that he talks to Gronk all the time.

What are they talking about if its not football. The latest in fashion?

supafly said:

I shouldn’t speculate, but it seems like they didn’t feel too confident about moving forward with Gordon for whatever reason. I saw an article somewhere that suggested tardiness to meetings as a factor. It just doesn’t make sense why you’d cut Josh Gordon when the offense is sputtering as much as it has been.

No one is going to convince me that the end of roster moves warranted cutting Gordon, and they’re certainly not going to do it with the idea that a rookie with 0 snaps is the obvious answer. There had to have been some feeling that he wasn’t fully invested or that he was slipping in some form.

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Both Reiss and Curran reported that the team felt that Gordon wasn’t dependable.

He must have missed meeting and was late.

venecol said:

What are Pats waiting on to activate Harry?

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why would they activate him before Saturday?

SBLIII said:

why would they activate him before Saturday?

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I'm not talking about active for Sunday's game, I'm talking about active on the roster. He can be active on the roster (removed from IR and placed on 53 man roster) and still be inactive for the game.

He's already been designated to return so that spot is gone. There is no benefit to try to hide him from the roster for Sunday's game (that's what inactive list is for). My concern is him not being ready to come back at all, thus the question. Maybe I'm not understanding the rules correctly.

luuked said:

It is not supposed to be funny. It is a serious question.

There is no advantage in activating him before you absolutely have to. On the other hand it keeps the other team guessing and if they are well coached they will need to spend some of their time budget on a player they are not sure will be active.

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Didn't make myself clear, I was talking about making him active on the 53 man roster, not game active. See response to other post above.

venecol said:

I'm not talking about active for Sunday's game, I'm talking about active on the roster. He can be active on the roster (removed from IR and placed on 53 man roster) and still be inactive for the game.

He's already been designated to return so that spot is gone. There is no benefit to try to hide him from the roster for Sunday's game (that's what inactive list is for). My concern is him not being ready to come back at all, thus the question. Maybe I'm not understanding the rules correctly.

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I know what you are talking about. Where is the benefit of activating him to the 53 man roster now opposed to Saturday? There is no benefit.

Oswlek said:

Why?

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Because, if for whatever reason (pure speculation) Harry isn't ready to return to the 53 man roster, then imo IRing Gordon was a mistake.

SBLIII said:

I know what you are talking about. Where is the benefit of activating him to the 53 man roster now opposed to Saturday? There is no benefit.

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There is no benefit not to either.

venecol said:

There is no benefit not to either.

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There is. The Ravens don't know if we will activate him to the 53 man roster and they will have limited time to adjust their gameplans if we do it on Saturday.

It's enough reason not to do it right away for a player who is able to practice either way.

venecol said:

Didn't make myself clear, I was talking about making him active on the 53 man roster, not game active. See response to other post above.

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I don't understand what you are talking about. We are all talking about activation for the 53. There is no reason to do anything about that before Saturday.

If you think this is about JG then I have bad news for you. The team was done with him for non injury reasons.

They gave him a lot of time but as soon as they had Sanu and saw enough of Harry in practice they were ready to cut the cord. So much so that they don't even care about potential comp picks over 900k and release him off IR.

SBLIII said:

why would they activate him before Saturday?

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So he could play in the game.

edit - I agree, activating him on Saturday or Sunday if possible would be the better move if he was going to play on Sunday night.

SBLIII said:

There is. The Ravens don't know if we will activate him to the 53 man roster and they will have limited time to adjust their gameplans if we do it on Saturday.

It's enough reason not to do it right away for a player who is able to practice either way.

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I suppose, but there isn't enough film on Harry anyway, so don't see the point. I would assume Ravens will practice based on Harry being active taking Gordon's routes. Who knows. I would just like to see if in fact he's making it back to the roster.

venecol said:

Because, if for whatever reason (pure speculation) Harry isn't ready to return to the 53 man roster, then imo IRing Gordon was a mistake.

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Sorry to repeat myself, but why? It's pretty clear the team decided to cut ties with Gordon either way, Harry's arrival is more coincidence than cause.

Fatmancryin said:

He must have missed meeting and was late.

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I don't know what Gordon did but I am having trouble figuring out how he both "was late" and "missed" a meeting.

venecol said:

I suppose, but there isn't enough film on Harry anyway, so don't see the point. I would assume Ravens will practice based on Harry being active taking Gordon's routes. Who knows. I would just like to see if in fact he's making it back to the roster.

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Like some other guy posting yesterday, you seem to be operating under the belief that the Patriots owe the public some insight into how they go about their business. You'll find out if he's making it back to the roster over the weekend.

venecol said:

Because, if for whatever reason (pure speculation) Harry isn't ready to return to the 53 man roster, then imo IRing Gordon was a mistake.

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IF they weren't going to depend on Gordon why string him along and then IR him?? D Thomas in NY is averaging 50yds a game this inconsistent Offense could use those numbers.

Oswlek said:

Sorry to repeat myself, but why? It's pretty clear the team decided to cut ties with Gordon either way, Harry's arrival is more coincidence than cause.

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Maybe, we'll probably never know why Gordon was released, but if it is true that it was because he was "tardy" then his release before finding out if Harry was back and able was f.uu.c.king stupid imo.

LJRomanoff said:

Like some other guy posting yesterday, you seem to be operating under the belief that the Patriots owe the public some insight into how they go about their business. You'll find out if he's making it back to the roster over the weekend.

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Yea I'm not delusional in thinking the team owes fans any explanations on how they run their internal matters, so I didn't actually write them a letter demanding answers.

Instead I posted a question or opinion on a football forum composed of fans that have different opinions on team related matters and constantly act like homers, chicken littles, or trolls in doing so. There a few reasonably posters mixed in as well, and also @Joker.

PatsFan2 said:

IF they weren't going to depend on Gordon why string him along and then IR him?? D Thomas in NY is averaging 50yds a game this inconsistent Offense could use those numbers.

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1. Thomas wouldn't be getting those numbers in New England.

2. Gordon is on IR because he's injured. He is being IR'd then waived because if he were released immediately he'd be a free agent as the release would have happened before the trade deadline. By holding him until he's off IR he'll be waived. Waiving him exposes him to the wire process and makes it more likely a non-entity team will get him v. a possible playoff competitor. The team that claims him would also be eligible for the remaining one million of Gordon's salary unlike making Gordon a free agent immediately where the Patriots would be required to pay that money.