Jeff Howe: Pats in market for a WR and TE

mgteich · Oct 23, 2019

In cap's world, Bill should have "demanded" that ATL give us Hooper for a second. In his world, one team can force another team to make a deal that it wants.

NashuaPats said:
They inquired about Howard, so I bet they asked the Falcons about Hooper. The Falcons probably weren't interested in trading him.

Uptown · Oct 23, 2019

For those who may want to know (even though ATL most likely won’t trade him)

captain stone · Oct 23, 2019

captain stone said:
Bill should've demanded Austin Hooper in exchange for the 2nd-rounder...because unless the conditions of Gordon and/or Harry are more grave than we believe, then adding somebody like Slo-Mo Sanu - who plays basically the Exact Same Position as the other two - doesn't provide nearly the impact that adding a pro-bowl-calibre TE such as Hooper would've provided, especially when the cost to acquire Sanu - and the damage to our salary cap that he brings with him - is taken into account.
This looks more like a panic-stricken overpay than a shrewd business deal.

Looks like I was both right and wrong.

The Gordon situation, more grave than we knew - as I postulated - completely changes the dynamics of this trade.

Bill still overpaid for Sanu, however...that should've been the price of Austin Hooper, not him...and we are still in desperate, desperate need of quality improvements at LT, TE & FB...we're not winning #7 without them.

PatsWSB47 · Oct 23, 2019

So many experts that know exactly what we need and how much we should pay. Who would have thought all the answers the Patriots need can be found right here? Bill obviously doesnt read patsfans.com. shame

Ochmed Jones · Oct 23, 2019

Hopefully bb can find us another wide receiver before next Tuesday.

patsinthesnow · Oct 23, 2019

Wozzy · Oct 23, 2019

Ochmed Jones said:
Hopefully bb can find us another wide receiver before next Tuesday.

His name is N'Keal, he was a #1 pick.

Bourne Again Christian · Oct 23, 2019

Let's make a trade.
I think tbe first round pick maybe on the table.

mgteich · Oct 23, 2019

Mason's restructure would free up about $2M in cap space.

patsinthesnow said:

Ochmed Jones · Oct 23, 2019

mgteich said:
Mason's restructure would free up about $2M in cap space.

sounds like bb is still on the hunt for a trade.

Triumph · Oct 23, 2019

ChrisR2223 said:
Let's make a trade.
I think tbe first round pick maybe on the table.

Keenan Allen
Edelman
Dorsett
Sanu
Harry
Meyers

Game over NFL

Triumph · Oct 23, 2019

Ochmed Jones said:
sounds like bb is still on the hunt for a trade.

That is what Ive been thinking as well.

The Browns game will be telling for Meyers and Gunner.

I would wager that the first 4 WRs are locked in and that no changes will be made to the RBs. The Pats are set at RB and once the passing game gets into overdrive the running lanes will open up.

SHOWTIME15 · Oct 23, 2019

captain stone said:
Looks like I was both right and wrong.

The Gordon situation, more grave than we knew - as I postulated - completely changes the dynamics of this trade.

Bill still overpaid for Sanu, however...that should've been the price of Austin Hooper, not him ...and we are still in desperate, desperate need of quality improvements at LT, TE & FB...we're
not winning #7 without them.

We are are getting a LT in a few weeks and have an adequate TE. As for FB, we don't need to be perfect at every position to win #7.

Patsgofor4 · Oct 23, 2019

Ochmed Jones said:
sounds like bb is still on the hunt for a trade.

Do we know for sure that Falcons converted Sanu’s remaining 2019 salary into a signing bonus? Could the Mason restructure be related to Sanu and not another potential addition?

Sciz · Oct 23, 2019

Patsgofor4 said:
Do we know for sure that Falcons converted Sanu’s remaining 2019 salary into a signing bonus? Could the Mason restructure be related to Sanu and not another potential addition?

We don’t know that for sure, and in my opinion it’s awfully unlikely that the Falcons did anything. They have the worst 2020 cap situation in the NFL, so they’re not really in a position to be giving away cap room.

It seems that Mason was restructured to get Sanu under the cap, and they could then restructure Sanu to push a little over a million to next year if they needed to.

Fatmancryin · Oct 23, 2019

Patsgofor4 said:
Do we know for sure that Falcons converted Sanu’s remaining 2019 salary into a signing bonus? Could the Mason restructure be related to Sanu and not another potential addition?

And they added Bethel.

Waiving JG saves 2 m, if they trade Bennett that another 2.6m and whatever they got with the supposed Mason restructure.

Might be something big coming.

mgteich · Oct 23, 2019

So, we restructured Mason first. We might restructure Sanu later in the season if we need the cap space.

Fatmancryin said:
According to this guy they didn’t need to. ‍

mgteich · Oct 23, 2019

Ochmed Jones said:
sounds like bb is still on the hunt for a trade.

San needed to be paid for.

Patsgofor4 · Oct 24, 2019

Fatmancryin said:
And they added Bethel.

Waiving JG saves 2 m, if they trade Bennett that another 2.6m and whatever they got with the supposed Mason restructure.

Might be something big coming.

Interesting. This is a OTC website screen grab that I sent to some friends about Sanu’s contract/cap hits yesterday morning.

And this is what is currently posted:

Something seems to have happened over the past 24 hours. Miguel....little help here, please.

Crazy Patriot Guy · Oct 24, 2019

Patsgofor4 said:
Interesting. This is a OTC website screen grab that I sent to some friends about Sanu’s contract/cap hits yesterday morning.

View attachment 24829

And this is what is currently posted:

View attachment 24830

Something seems to have happened over the past 24 hours. Miguel....little help here, please.

The first is what his cap numbers looked like with Atlanta. Once he was traded, we only owe him base salary, thus the lower cap numbers now.

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