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Ring 6 · Oct 22, 2019

RelocatedPatFan said:
I thought that was to put them out of FG range. Also, goes towards his trust in the D (which will pay dividends going forward - chess my man, BB is playing chess)

They were at about the 38 so it would have been a very long fg.

oldrover · Oct 22, 2019

BradyFixesEverything said:
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BTTA · Oct 22, 2019

nabwong said:
Yes. Committing 2 delay of game penalties will result in unsportsmanlike conduct. That's why they went with a false start on the 2nd one.

So they can do an unlimited number of false starts without the same consequence?

Xerostomia · Oct 22, 2019

I think something like this happened against the Giants in SB XLVI, where the Giants went offside at the end of the game, and there was a 10 second run off. I think BB wants the rule changed, but nothing happens unless it is the Patriots doing this.

DaBruinz · Oct 22, 2019

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Patsfanin Philly · Oct 22, 2019

I would love to know what he said to the defensive players when he called them all together, up 24-0 at the time. Usually you see that when a team is getting crushed, not delivering the punishing...

raduray · Oct 22, 2019

Patsfanin Philly said:
I would love to know what he said to the defensive players when he called them all together, up 24-0 at the time. Usually you see that when a team is getting crushed, not delivering the punishing...

It was probably "Great job guys. Keep your feet on their throats. Crush them!"

The Brandon Five · Oct 22, 2019

Patsfanin Philly said:
I would love to know what he said to the defensive players when he called them all together, up 24-0 at the time. Usually you see that when a team is getting crushed, not delivering the punishing...

Ok, so I am ordering a bunch of wings for post-game. Get me your orders before fourth quarter!

libra957 · Oct 22, 2019

According to an uncomfirm report, Belichick laughed uncomtrollably in the locker room.

TB_Helmet · Oct 22, 2019

Curious, who has the green dot when the team is punting?

Wonder if he asked Belichick to confirm that yes, "Tell Brandon to intentionally false start."

"Did I hear you right coach? Intentional false start? Well, you're the coach!"

chris_in_sunnyvale · Oct 22, 2019

XLIX said:
I am very curious about this, especially since the Patriots technically *didn’t* commit any 5-yard pre-snap penalties.

They didn’t throw a 15 yarder against the Squealers that time they kept going offsides to block that FG, although they were on defense at the time so maybe that’s the key difference.

But yes, this is something which I’ve noticed in the past, especially in the college game, and I’ve always wondered if some coach out there would have the nerve to exploit it by, say, running (for example) 8 minutes off the clock between plays (or forcing the other team to call a time out)

Rule 4, section 7, article 1, note 1 states that two successive delay of game penalties on the same down is met with a 15yd penalty.

Rule 12, section 3, article 3 states that multiple fouls to run time off the game clock is met with a 15yd penalty and the game clock being reset to where it was at the snap.

Regards,
Chris

BelichickFan · Oct 22, 2019

I guess I assumed that after the delay the clock would be stopped until the next snap. Wrong again.

TB_Helmet · Oct 22, 2019

I actually thought the main reason for the attempted 5 yard penalties was to get a little more room to punt, but I'm not familiar with the intricacies of when the clock starts running after various penalties when declined vs not declined.

You know who is familiar with those intricacies? Bill Belichick.

sb1 · Oct 22, 2019

Too bad he didn't save this for the Ravens game just for the lolz at Harbaugh's expense.

Schmo · Oct 22, 2019

TB_Helmet said:
I actually thought the main reason for the attempted 5 yard penalties was to get a little more room to punt, but I'm not familiar with the intricacies of when the clock starts running after various penalties when declined vs not declined.

You know who is familiar with those intricacies? Bill Belichick.

Is that you, Gase?

Patsfanin Philly · Oct 22, 2019

libra957 said:
According to an uncomfirm report, Belichick laughed uncomtrollably in the locker room.

Can you blame him? Two games and the defense didn't give up a point (pick 6 and muffed punt)total!!!

TB_Helmet · Oct 22, 2019

Schmo said:
Is that you, Gase?

Nah I can't do that bug eyed trick.

QuantumMechanic · Oct 22, 2019

patchick said:
Let's talk about the loophole itself. They managed to run 1:22 off the clock between 3rd & 4th downs toward the end of a game. Why haven't we seen anybody do this before? It could be huge if the game were actually close.

Will there be an emergency mid-season rule change? Was that actually BB's plan, to draw the league's attention to the loophole? And if so, why do it at a time when it doesn't actually matter rather than pulling it out of your bag of tricks to ice a tight win? (Could it be--gasp--just plain "good sportsmanship"?)

I think BB hates the loophole and was rubbing it in the NFL's face to force a change, preferably mid-season.

supafly · Oct 22, 2019

TB_Helmet said:
Curious, who has the green dot when the team is punting?

Wonder if he asked Belichick to confirm that yes, "Tell Brandon to intentionally false start."

"Did I hear you right coach? Intentional false start? Well, you're the coach!"

I’m convinced that it was just good situational football and that Bolden made the choice on his own. We don’t see much coming from the mouth of Belichick in between the first and second penalties, so my guess is that it was all Bolden.

QuantumMechanic · Oct 22, 2019

supafly said:
I’m convinced that it was just good situational football and that Bolden made the choice on his own. We don’t see much coming from the mouth of Belichick in between the first and second penalties, so my guess is that it was all Bolden.

I think Belichick sent the plan in when he sent the punt team in and told them to take a delay and then if that was declined to intentionally false start.

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