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I do not recall a season where there are so many good defenses. Yes, its still early, but in years past one team had a defense better than all others. Seattle was the dominant defense. Then, Jacksonville held the throne. Its seemed like that one teams defense was light years better than every other franchise. Years ago the Ravens were the defense.

This season, the defensive units of New England, San Francisco, Buffalo and New Orleans as of late, are snuffing the life out of opposing teams.

Points Allowed
Pats 48 @ 6 games = 8 per game
49ers 64 @ 6 games = 10.6 per game
Buffalo 91 @ 6 games = 15.1 per game
Saints 147 @ 7 games = 21 per game

The reason to include New Orleans within the top tier is that they were basically a QB driven team with Brees. After losing him, the New Orleans defense has totally stepped up and become the face of the franchise. The Saints are going to be a very dangerous team when Brees returns.

Also, Chicago, Tennessee, Pittsburgh, Minnesota and the New York Jets are also playing good defense.

Points Allowed
Bears -105 @ 6 games = 17.5 per game
Titans - 112 @ 7 games = 16 per game
Vikings- 123 @ 7 games = 17.5 per game
Steelers -131@ 6 games = 21.8 per game
Jets - 123 @ 5 games = 24.6 per game

Take into consideration that every single one of the aforementioned teams has or had QB issues. Tribisky and Mariota are not long for this league. Cousins is playing better now. Darnold is better than what the Jets had. The Steelers new QB is holding his own.

What do you think?
 
I think Mariota may be back sooner rather than later - not that it will make a difference. Mike Vrabel proved yesterday that you can win without a QB once in a while.

Also, some of those defenses are more outliers than others. We'll have a better picture by Thanksgiving.
 
I do not recall a season where there are so many good defenses. Yes, its still early, but in years past one team had a defense better than all others. Seattle was the dominant defense. Then, Jacksonville held the throne. Its seemed like that one teams defense was light years better than every other franchise. Years ago the Ravens were the defense.

This season, the defensive units of New England, San Francisco, Buffalo and New Orleans as of late, are snuffing the life out of opposing teams.

Points Allowed
Pats 48 @ 6 games = 8 per game
49ers 64 @ 6 games = 10.6 per game
Buffalo 91 @ 6 games = 15.1 per game
Saints 147 @ 7 games = 21 per game

The reason to include New Orleans within the top tier is that they were basically a QB driven team with Brees. After losing him, the New Orleans defense has totally stepped up and become the face of the franchise. The Saints are going to be a very dangerous team when Brees returns.

Also, Chicago, Tennessee, Pittsburgh, Minnesota and the New York Jets are also playing good defense.

Points Allowed
Bears -105 @ 6 games = 17.5 per game
Titans - 112 @ 7 games = 16 per game
Vikings- 123 @ 7 games = 17.5 per game
Steelers -131@ 6 games = 21.8 per game
Jets - 123 @ 5 games = 24.6 per game

Take into consideration that every single one of the aforementioned teams has or had QB issues. Tribisky and Mariota are not long for this league. Cousins is playing better now. Darnold is better than what the Jets had. The Steelers new QB is holding his own.

What do you think?

I don't know what the figures look like for the other 4 teams on this list, but the Pats D has not allowed 48 points. Here are the points given up by the defense in each game:

Steelers - 3
Dolphins - 0
Jets - 0
Bills - 10
Redskins - 7
Giants - 7
Total: 27

That's 4.5 points per game. Pats Defense has scored 21 points. The Punt team has scored 14 (they also allowed 7). If you include those, we can say Defense and ST have allowed 34 points while scoring 35. That is unbelievable.
 
I think Mariota may be back sooner rather than later - not that it will make a difference. Mike Vrabel proved yesterday that you can win without a QB once in a while.

Also, some of those defenses are more outliers than others. We'll have a better picture by Thanksgiving.

Winning with Mariota is winning without a QB.
 
I don't know what the figures look like for the other 4 teams on this list, but the Pats D has not allowed 48 points. Here are the points given up by the defense in each game:

Steelers - 3
Dolphins - 0
Jets - 0
Bills - 10
Redskins - 7
Giants - 7
Total: 27

That's 4.5 points per game. Pats Defense has scored 21 points. The Punt team has scored 14 (they also allowed 7). If you include those, we can say Defense and ST have allowed 34 points while scoring 35. That is unbelievable.

Just pouring on here, but the Pats 'total points' (margin, essentially) is a different game compared to the league. Pats in first, and the closest second is 50 points lower (San Fran).

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I do not recall a season where there are so many good defenses. Yes, its still early, but in years past one team had a defense better than all others. Seattle was the dominant defense. Then, Jacksonville held the throne. Its seemed like that one teams defense was light years better than every other franchise. Years ago the Ravens were the defense.

This season, the defensive units of New England, San Francisco, Buffalo and New Orleans as of late, are snuffing the life out of opposing teams.

Points Allowed
Pats 48 @ 6 games = 8 per game
49ers 64 @ 6 games = 10.6 per game
Buffalo 91 @ 6 games = 15.1 per game
Saints 147 @ 7 games = 21 per game

The reason to include New Orleans within the top tier is that they were basically a QB driven team with Brees. After losing him, the New Orleans defense has totally stepped up and become the face of the franchise. The Saints are going to be a very dangerous team when Brees returns.

Also, Chicago, Tennessee, Pittsburgh, Minnesota and the New York Jets are also playing good defense.

Points Allowed
Bears -105 @ 6 games = 17.5 per game
Titans - 112 @ 7 games = 16 per game
Vikings- 123 @ 7 games = 17.5 per game
Steelers -131@ 6 games = 21.8 per game
Jets - 123 @ 5 games = 24.6 per game

Take into consideration that every single one of the aforementioned teams has or had QB issues. Tribisky and Mariota are not long for this league. Cousins is playing better now. Darnold is better than what the Jets had. The Steelers new QB is holding his own.

What do you think?

I’d be interested if there’s been a change of philosophy causing this, like different personnel groupings or different prototypical draft profiles that are causing defenses to adapt to the pass happy league,
 
Funny because last year, I was complaining that defenses were too hampered by rules as offenses were scoring 35 ppg it felt like
 
I do not recall a season where there are so many good defenses. Yes, its still early, but in years past one team had a defense better than all others. Seattle was the dominant defense. Then, Jacksonville held the throne. Its seemed like that one teams defense was light years better than every other franchise. Years ago the Ravens were the defense.

This season, the defensive units of New England, San Francisco, Buffalo and New Orleans as of late, are snuffing the life out of opposing teams.

Points Allowed
Pats 48 @ 6 games = 8 per game
49ers 64 @ 6 games = 10.6 per game
Buffalo 91 @ 6 games = 15.1 per game
Saints 147 @ 7 games = 21 per game

The reason to include New Orleans within the top tier is that they were basically a QB driven team with Brees. After losing him, the New Orleans defense has totally stepped up and become the face of the franchise. The Saints are going to be a very dangerous team when Brees returns.

Also, Chicago, Tennessee, Pittsburgh, Minnesota and the New York Jets are also playing good defense.

Points Allowed
Bears -105 @ 6 games = 17.5 per game
Titans - 112 @ 7 games = 16 per game
Vikings- 123 @ 7 games = 17.5 per game
Steelers -131@ 6 games = 21.8 per game
Jets - 123 @ 5 games = 24.6 per game

Take into consideration that every single one of the aforementioned teams has or had QB issues. Tribisky and Mariota are not long for this league. Cousins is playing better now. Darnold is better than what the Jets had. The Steelers new QB is holding his own.

What do you think?
I think bills and saints don’t belong in the argument with patriots and 49ers who SO FAR are historically dominant defenses.
It can all change in one game with one injury or one coach busting the scheme but with the games in he books the patriots are clearly and undoubtedly the best defense and the 49ers are just as undoubtedly #2.
 
I think bills and saints don’t belong in the argument with patriots and 49ers who SO FAR are historically dominant defenses.
It can all change in one game with one injury or one coach busting the scheme but with the games in he books the patriots are clearly and undoubtedly the best defense and the 49ers are just as undoubtedly #2.

Not sure what was up the the 49ers offense yestereday...only 9 points against the Skins? I know the Pats offense couldn't score against the Bills, but that Skins D is not good. Maybe it was the conditions?
 
I always liked a great defensive battle in a game. My sister was whining that LIII was boring because it wasn’t like the Chiefs game. I don’t require 90 points scored, that’s fun to watch too but this year is likely to come down to defense. It’s too early to tell who’s going to dominate but my money is on the pats
 
Funny because last year, I was complaining that defenses were too hampered by rules as offenses were scoring 35 ppg it felt like
A lot of people were. You definitely were not the only one.
 
I always liked a great defensive battle in a game. My sister was whining that LIII was boring because it wasn’t like the Chiefs game. I don’t require 90 points scored, that’s fun to watch too but this year is likely to come down to defense. It’s too early to tell who’s going to dominate but my money is on the pats

Honestly, that's why Super Bowl 49 was PERFECT!

There was still enough scoring, and when the scores did happen you didn't get the sense it was because of bad D. It was just that the offense made some plays.

Super Bowl 53 was full of defense/ineffective offense.
Super Bowl 52 had no defense.
Super Bowl 49 was just right.
 
Honestly, that's why Super Bowl 49 was PERFECT!

There was still enough scoring, and when the scores did happen you didn't get the sense it was because of bad it. It was just that the offense made some plays.

Super Bowl 53 was full of defense/ineffective offense.
Super Bowl 52 had no defense.
Super Bowl 49 was just right.
Greatest game of all time.


Off-field drama:

-- Budding dynasty (Seahawks) vs old guard (Patriots)

-- Deflategate backdrop

-- Pats hadn't won since '04

-- Brady GOAT stakes

-- Personalities and names on both sides


On-field drama:

-- Game was close the whole time (biggest lead was 10 points)

-- Crazy end of first half with Seattle scoring a TD (and Chris Matthews potential as a folk hero if Seattle had won)

-- Chess match on multiple levels, most notably the decision to switch Browner to Matthews instead of Ryan

-- Two unbelievable drives by the Pats to score TDs in the fourth quarter; at that time the greatest fourth quarter comeback in Super Bowl history

-- Kearse insane catch that would probably have topped the Helmet Catch in lore if they had won (not to mention Butler's presence of mind to touch him down)

-- A crippled Hightower tackling Lynch to save the game

-- Belichick Jedi mind-tricking Carroll into calling a pass by not calling a timeout when everyone was screaming at their TVs to do so

-- Of course, Butler's interception, which is the greatest play of all time

-- The fallout: Carroll's decision being widely panned, Seahawks dynasty being derailed and the team falling apart, first time Brady was ever generally acknowledged as the GOAT.
 
The OP presents some impressive stats, and it makes it crazier that this is the time of year when there is even MORE offense.

I figure offenses and total points probably decrease at least a little as the year goes on (due to colder weather conditions). Just a guess, I don't actually have any facts to support that.
 
We'll see....defenses are usually ahead of offenses until mid-season. Case in example, Aaron Rodgers finally goes off yesterday...

I think by the season's end...it will still be an offensive league...
 
Honestly, that's why Super Bowl 49 was PERFECT!

There was still enough scoring, and when the scores did happen you didn't get the sense it was because of bad D. It was just that the offense made some plays.

Super Bowl 53 was full of defense/ineffective offense.
Super Bowl 52 had no defense.
Super Bowl 49 was just right.

Couldn’t agree more. I yelled so much in that game I was horse the next day
 
i think part of it is D, but part of it is the O too...i feel like offenses either are considerably worse than usual or have taken longer than usual to get started, if we look at averages of points scored so far this season vs other seasons there will be a big difference

maybe a large number of starting qbs getting hurt has played into this? aside from that not sure
 
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