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FootballZebras on current reffing insanity


Very interesting piece. Apparently even the supervisors of officials are split on how refs should ref games, among other things.
Former Super Bowl referee reveals dysfunction in the current NFL officiating ranks

Great article. Thanks for sharing.

After the debacle that was the Cowboys vs Jets game in which the Jets first two scores came on marches down the field that were aided by phantom calls on key downs, I commented that it was the worst officiated game that I'd ever seen. It didn't take long for that to be beaten when Detroit was robbed the very next night.

There's no question that the officiating is worse now than it's ever been. It has gotten to the point where I'm shutting off games, just as I did the Detroit at GB game. It has become frustrating to the point that I don't enjoy the games anymore.
 
It's as if the officials no longer talk with the coaches before games in order to discuss at what they'll be looking, what the league has instructed them to emphasize, and what the coaches concerns are...Thanks Stokoe...
 
It's mind boggling how a multi billion dollar organization can be this incompetent.
 
It's mind boggling how a multi billion dollar organization can be this incompetent.
No competition will do that to you.

Edit: I take that back... there is competition. We could be watching any number of other things. Either we fans are stupid or they have tapped into some psychological quirk of sports fandom that keeps us coming back no matter what.
 
This is interesting from that piece:

Through the first two weeks of the season the average game had 5.6 offensive holding calls. Average. After the ensuing Thursday night game between the Titans and Jaguars saw 10 offensive holds, senior vice president of officiating Al Riveron held a conference call with its officials to recalibrate how it was calling offensive holding. In the remaining Week 3 games, the average was cut nearly in half.
Of course the way this is supposed to work is that the refs enforce some point of emphasis in the pre-season and maybe the first game or two, and then the players adjust and the number of penalties goes back down again.

Be interesting to know how many of those offensive holds were "discretionary" (running plays and the like) vs. "non-discretionary" (my QB is going to get killed if I don't hold this guy).
 
There's no question that the officiating is worse now than it's ever been

I feel like I am reading this every year. Not saying you are wrong but a lot of it is also recency bias.
 
Go tell New Orleans and Trey Flowers that. Allowing blatantly obvious misses to stand is inexcusable if they are actually trying to get things right. Refs need to be fined for this ****. Start lightening their wallets. I figure the amount of 1 playoff check is reasonable per blown call. That **** crew from the Det/KC has 3 easy fines from my memory. 2 from that Dallas game when Garret was flagged for spiking the challenge flag, even though he won it (that ******* ref should really just be fired on the spot).

Since refs are human, and humans make mistakes, they need to start acting like it. Questioning a ****ty call shouldn't always be taken as an insult. Just admit you are wrong and move on. It isn't a failure to admit a mistake was made. Why does the NFL refuse to admit and correct its mistakes in the moment, or do anything to hold the cause of the issue accountable (save some nonsense grading system they rework at playoff time so we can watch ****ty crews ruin even more important games. See: Clete Blakeman).

If players get fined for rightly pointing out the obvious, the refs should get thrown in solitary for life. The players dont directly cost the refs money. Contrarily, how many injuries have you guys seen on plays that never even happened? You know, the old strip sack/incomplete play, they sont blow it dead moat the time, even when obvious to make aure they "get it right." In the ensuing scramble/recovery, a player gets injured making a play that wont count for anything when the booth goes to review.

Defensive backs getting flagged for being in position for a pick, but the wideout initiates a helmet to helmet hit as the cb is making a play on the ball and the offense gets 15 yards and a first down.

This league is run by idiots.

It's not the fault of the officials. They're being led by Goody and the Jets who never officiated a game in their lives and are pushing the refs to make more calls while they themselves are the ones missing the calls.

Someone somewhere around here (sorry but I don't remember who) mentioned that it was possible that Goody and the Jete are also trying to stack the deck against challenge calls by not reversing many, even when it's obvious.
 
No competition will do that to you.

Edit: I take that back... there is competition. We could be watching any number of other things. Either we fans are stupid or they have tapped into some psychological quirk of sports fandom that keeps us coming back no matter what.

As a kid I played baseball and football and I loved them both. I even coached youth baseball for 15 years. But I dropped MLB about 20 years ago and haven't missed a thing. I'll soon be saying goodbye to the NFL too. As soon as Brady leaves the game so will I.
 
I might be in the minority but I think all replay should be handled like they are currently handling pass interference and the vast majority of it should be scrapped. Overturns should be for truly egregious calls not hairsplits of real time in super slow motion which usually adds a new context to the play that may or may not have existed in real time..... see hit on Josh Rosen..... that play looks much more troublesome in super slow than it did in real time. By definition in super slow virtually any any pass play can be offensive or defensive PI depending on where you look at it. My take.... leave it alone and let coaches know that only truly egregious calls will be overturned and to use challenges wisely.

also. Does replay really get it right? That’s the big supporting argument but does it really achieve that. I’ll concede it is effective usually when it comes to a ball hitting the ground or not but crossing the goal line..... spotting the ball on a fullback dive..... not so sure about that. Anytime they are piecing together a replay I would argue that is not “incontrovertible “ would the charger titan game be any less controversial if the called Gordon a TD?

I feel it should in situations where it is effective and not utilized in situations where it is likely to be ineffective. When it must be used the call on the field should carry a lot more weight than the interpretation of the less than obvious in most cases replay.

I think in all honesty replay has caused as much controversy as it has eliminated if not more.

im leaving things out of this. I’ve had this argument with friends a 1000 times...
 
They want to repeat the fail Mary at least twice a week.
 
It's mind boggling how a multi billion dollar organization can be this incompetent.

Certain aspects of this big corporation are run very well. They just seems to have a problem with anything that requires judgment of someone's behavior, whether on the field or off it.

That's hard anywhere - look at all the controversy and incompetence we have in criminal justice, for example. But having boundaries between those making the rules and those enforcing the rules is essential and they just can't bring themselves to do that.

Having full-time, professional officials, with a collective and transparent voice in all this wouldn't solve all the problems but it would help.
 


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