Jalen Ramsey traded to Rams

@Patstastic must be sleeping easier these days knowing he's not going to the Chiefs.

Ochmed Jones said:

Wow! Jacksonville just raped the rams. Mcvay is about to learn a hard lesson.

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He already did right before the SB even started. Lol

Ice_Ice_Brady said:

Awesome! KC misses out...could have been big for them.

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wish they made the trade giving that BS load for a CB means you’ll never contend

Quest4SevenHomie said:

Better reconstruct Cooks, Whitworth and Donald's contracts or salary cap hell it is.

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If they restructure all this salaries they will have 62m extra ...

Goff: $24,246,146
Aaron Donald: $13,012,000
[URL='https://overthecap.com/player/todd-gurley/3858/']Todd Gurley: $9,172,500[/URL]
[URL='https://overthecap.com/player/todd-gurley/3858/'][URL='https://overthecap.com/player/brandin-cooks/2959/']Brandin Cooks: $8,385,000[/URL][/URL]
Tyler Higbee: $5,467,500
Robert Woods: $3,090,000

Total cap: 100M

They ''have'' to pay in 2020:

Jalen Ramsey - 17m per
Cory Littleton - 5m
Greg Zuerlein - 3m
Dante Fowler, Jr. - 11m
Michael Brockers - 10m

Total: 46m

They can bring 2 or 3 really good Free agents

How much better did the Rams get with this trade? Talib goes on IR, Peters is traded away and you bring in Ramsey. Granted he’s better then both but you’re still down a starting corner and you gave up a lot of picks and you have to make him the highest paid corner in football. I just don’t see the logic in it.

ChrisR2223 said:

I predicted a few moves trading for Gordon signing Jeremy Hill.
Drafting one of Stidham or Lock.
I think thats really it for the last 2 seasons.
I guess I can see both sides of the coin if you ask would I rather have Sony Michel and Nkeal Harry or Jalen Ramsey well I think every Patriots fan in there right mind would say Ramsey.
Its just we put such a value on first round picks but if your picking at the end.
The pick can easily lose its luster.

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Yes you have nailed on a few moves they've made. You're also a good poster.

I may like the players you bring up but usually disagree with the cost. "All in" teams spend future assets to win now. The Pats have typically not done that and have relied on good coaching etc to sustain a high level of consistency. Although they seem like they dipped a little into future assets lately.

I would like Ramsey the player just not his cost.

Harry is an exciting young player and I would rather have him than Ramsey from an overall team perspective.

Sony has already delivered imo. His struggles this season are directly related to the oline issues.

dumb trade

Glad he didn’t go to KC.

slash83 said:

Glad he didn’t go to KC.

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He is overhyped and the Chiefs have other issues.

captain insano said:

The rams are idiots. 2 first round picks for a player that plays one side of the field. On the last year of his deal. lmao.

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And will only play man coverage.

SBLIII said:

He is overhyped and the Chiefs have other issues.

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I agree they have other issues, but let’s be real he would of helped their defense.

patman52 said:

peters makes a lot more than Ramsey. almost 2x as much.

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Not for long.

A lot of people are overvaluing draft picks in here. They are nice but to mean anything you still gotta turn them into great players.

One of the national beat guys posted that 3 of the last 6 Jags first round picks in the top 5 (!!) are now playing for the Rams.

They consistently miss despite early picks now for almost a decade:

2011: 10th Gabbert
2012: 5th Blackmon
2013: 2nd Joeckel
2014: 3rd Bortles
2015: 3rd Fowler
2016: 5th Ramsey
2017: 4th Fournette

with Ramsey being the only notable difference maker for the Jaguars.

At some point you would rather already have the talent on your roster than (highly favourable) lottery tickets. The draft remains a crapshoot but missing so many top 10 picks requires a certain kind of talent.

As Modell used to say back in the Brown days.. "We are in the business of selling hope". Because they are certainly not in the business of winning or creating a winning culture.

patsbrasilpatriotas said:

If they restructure all this salaries they will have 62m extra ...

Goff: $24,246,146
Aaron Donald: $13,012,000
Todd Gurley: $9,172,500
Brandin Cooks: $8,385,000
Tyler Higbee: $5,467,500
Robert Woods: $3,090,000

Total cap: 100M

They ''have'' to pay in 2020:

Jalen Ramsey - 17m per
Cory Littleton - 5m
Greg Zuerlein - 3m
Dante Fowler, Jr. - 11m
Michael Brockers - 10m

Total: 46m

They can bring 2 or 3 really good Free agents

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Next year is Ramsey's 5th year option year, is it not? That only 13M according to overthecap.

Also, no way does Littleton get just 5 million per year. He just made the pro-bowl last year, and probably is on pace to do it this year again. To add to that he is pretty much putting up the same stats as Wagner and Kuechly. So if I were Littleton I would be looking in the same realm as them. Wagner signed at 18M apy in 2019 and Keuchly at 12M apy in 2015. So probably closer to Wagner than Keuchly. Littleton has also only earned about 5M total in his career, so I think he would be looking to get paid.

Anyway, the Rams have 2/5 (Whitworth, Blythe) of their O-line, and about a third of their starting defense (Littleton, Talib, Brockers, Fowler Jr.) as UFAs in 2020, and now they've given up their chance to replenish with first round picks for two more years. They certainly need to do some restructuring to even have close to a chance to sign even a few of them.

Husse said:

Next year is Ramsey's 5th year option year, is it not? That only 13M according to overthecap.

Also, no way does Littleton get just 5 million per year. He just made the pro-bowl last year, and probably is on pace to do it this year again. To add to that he is pretty much putting up the same stats as Wagner and Kuechly. So if I were Littleton I would be looking in the same realm as them. Wagner signed at 18M apy in 2019 and Keuchly at 12M apy in 2015. So probably closer to Wagner than Keuchly. Littleton has also only earned about 5M total in his career, so I think he would be looking to get paid.

Anyway, the Rams have 2/5 (Whitworth, Blythe) of their O-line, and about a third of their starting defense (Littleton, Talib, Brockers, Fowler Jr.) as UFAs in 2020, and now they've given up their chance to replenish with first round picks for two more years. They certainly need to do some restructuring to even have close to a chance to sign even a few of them.

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Idk about Littleton. He was select to the pro bowl but as a STer no MLB ... And after that he signed a 1 yr deal worth 3.1M. I don't think he will get much more than that (5M).

If they give Ramsey less than 17M, he will have a lot of back problems next year... He will want to get paid. They used the same approach with Cooks. He signed a new deal even tho he had a 5th year option.

The problem about the Rams is not money IMO. They can free up a LOT of money (We can too). The problem is the main core is not worth the deals they signed. Gurley is not the same anymore, Cooks is a nice piece but IMO not worth 16M and Goff is not a 36M QB ... So their window will close someday but not next year.

Whitworth is like 50 years and Blythe is not good. I can see they making a play at one of our LB and Joey Thuney ... I hope the Pats lock them up before FA.

mgcolby said:

And now the NFL will slowly become the NBA...sad..

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That will benefit NEP since the whole "team" buy-in approach should forgoe having players that want to shoot their way out of town. Even AB wanted to stay, and Bennett appears to want to also.

More likely for other teams to have to deal with this nonsense.

patsbrasilpatriotas said:

Idk about Littleton. He was select to the pro bowl but as a STer no MLB ... And after that he signed a 1 yr deal worth 3.1M. I don't think he will get much more than that (5M).

If they give Ramsey less than 17M, he will have a lot of back problems next year... He will want to get paid. They used the same approach with Cooks. He signed a new deal even tho he had a 5th year option.

The problem about the Rams is not money IMO. They can free up a LOT of money (We can too). The problem is the main core is not worth the deals they signed. Gurley is not the same anymore, Cooks is a nice piece but IMO not worth 16M and Goff is not a 36M QB ... So their window will close someday but not next year.

Whitworth is like 50 years and Blythe is not good. I can see they making a play at one of our LB and Joey Thuney ... I hope the Pats lock them up before FA.

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I don't see the Patriots retaining Thuney but I sure hope we can keep Collins and van Noy. Both who still could have 2-3 good years left.

at least its not the CHiefs

mosslost said:

at least its not the CHiefs

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Breeland is awful. Ward is a slot guy playing on the outside. He is their Kyle Arrington

patsbrasilpatriotas said:

If they give Ramsey less than 17M, he will have a lot of back problems next year... He will want to get paid. They used the same approach with Cooks. He signed a new deal even tho he had a 5th year option.

The problem about the Rams is not money IMO. They can free up a LOT of money (We can too). The problem is the main core is not worth the deals they signed. Gurley is not the same anymore, Cooks is a nice piece but IMO not worth 16M and Goff is not a 36M QB ... So their window will close someday but not next year.

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One of the major problems the rams had was they gave up a lot for no guarantees with Ramsey. They should have had a contract in place before the deal was sent into the league office. Although, the league office frowns on it, they may have a handshake deal in place for after the season... the jags optioned his fifth year, so its up to the rams to get some new dollars headed his way to make him happier

The Gurley numbers are terrible... next year is 17.25 million cap hit? Ouch. Way too much considering how poorly he has performed due to chronic injuries. I would normally expect him to be gone, but if they suck it up one more year, it looks like they have an "out" built into the backside of his contract for the 2021 season... Just depends on if the Rams think he can get better and help, or conversely, if he is a liability after this season... but man, he is either 25m (pre 6/1) or 17 million (post 6/1) in dead money next year... that's a lot of dead benjamins to carry