Went back and read the SB51 thread.

PatsFanSince74 · Oct 10, 2019

oldrover said:
Remember... that’s the GAME DAY THREAD.

That's every Game Day Thread. LI was in the category of "The sky is on fire and now it's falling."

Ice_Ice_Brady · Oct 10, 2019

TommyD4207 said:
You know, there are times when I feel bad for Falcons fans.

Then I watch that top video, and see everyone in their brand-spanking new Matt Ryan jerseys, and I realize that they don't have any fans.

So true...lol. But I did feel bad for the real fans out there, as sparse as they are. What a horrible way to lose.

Nothing was worse than the exploding bandwagon known as the Seattle Seahawks fanbase from 2012-14.

Ice_Ice_Brady · Oct 10, 2019

patfanken said:
I don't understand how someone can pay so much money to see their home team play and then walk out in the 3rd quarter of a game their team is AHEAD???!!!!! Makes no sense at all. That is the time when you get to relax and LUXURIATE in the game.

There is something to be said about an intense back and forth game, especially when your team ends up winning. Well the same goes for a game when your team blows out the other team and you can relax and enjoy the impending victory without being on edge for 3 hours and afraid you are going to miss something if you take a piss.

Confession time: I was fine all through the first half because I knew were were going to get the ball at the start of the half and it would be 21-10 and the game would be on. However after we DIDN'T score and they DID, I admit to turning it off. I managed to keep it off for about 15 minutes and even when they were starting to come back my attitude was that it was "nice" that were were going to make it look close.

I mean the chances of winning were SO improbable. Zero chance of error. We had to score EVERY time and stop them EVERY time....AND get two 2 point conversions. An amazing night. It was glorious for any Pats fan to live through, and I can't imagine what it must have been like for a Falcons fan.

Just a thought that occurred to me. If you had the power of fate in your hands and you had the option to change history so that just ONE of these three things happened. Which would you choose.

1 The "helmet catch" was dropped and any of the 3 holding calls that could have been call had been thrown and Pats eke out their undefeated season.

2. Welker catches the pass. The Pats run out the clock and win a somewhat unexpected championship season

3. Events of Superbowl LI unfold just as they did.

You know as much as that Atlanta win was for the ages, I think an undefeated superbowl team would have been even more historic. And wouldn't it have been nice to have sent Junior Seau off with a superbowl ring.

What do you think?

I’d take the undefeated season, though it’s really close between that and SB51. SB51 had so many elements of revenge, redemption, etc.

I’m curious if people would theoretically trade wins in SBs 49 and 51 for wins in SBs 42 and 46. I couldn’t make that trade either.

SB46 was, to me, the least excited I’ve ever been about a game, and even if they’d won, I would have also felt more regret for losing four years prior. I hated the entire the leadup game and the game itself. Only time I’ve ever not been excited for a championship matchup.

sean10mm · Oct 10, 2019

Ice_Ice_Brady said:
So true...lol. But I did feel bad for the real fans out there, as sparse as they are. What a horrible way to lose.

Nothing was worse than the exploding bandwagon known as the Seattle Seahawks fanbase from 2012-14.

I mean there was the LA Rams Fanbase that Never Was in the First Place of 2018-19.

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QuantumMechanic · Oct 10, 2019

We were over a friend's for a SB party. Obviously, pretty subdued in the 1st half. At 21-3 I stopped watching the game and just went in another room and talked with other people who had given up. Skipped watching halftime. Watched NE's first 2nd half series (they failed) and walked out again. At 28-3 was talking to the wife how we should perhaps go home and get the kid (who was with us) to bed since it was a school night.

We decided to wait for one more NE drive, which made it 28-9. At that point we decided we'd stay for a bit longer but would probably leave. So then came 28-12 and "ok, let's wait a little longer" and then The Sack at which point we knew we were staying to the end, whatever it would be.

PatsFanSince74 · Oct 10, 2019

Hyped said:
Oh man, I loved this morsel:

View attachment 24592

Thanks man!!!

The good stuff begins around page 10...impending doom followed by denial followed by depression. Thanks for sharing!

Double TE · Oct 10, 2019

The Jets site is disturbing. Many "Game Overs" after the score moved to 28-3

Patstastic · Oct 10, 2019

TB12GOATQB said:
Also I have 0 problem admitting Atlanta played a large part in the comeback as well. They had to make a long series of terrible decisions and really bad plays for that to unfold. If you go back and watch they were doing the following:

snapping the ball with 7, 8, 9 10 seconds on the play clock

snapping the ball into the shotgun formation, bizarrely when they were in FG range at the end after the insane Julio Jones sideline catch, had they run it 3x up the middle they'd have had a chip shot to ice it.

throwing in general - instead of running and chewing up clock

other mistakes I'm forgetting at the moment

Some haters want to discredit the Patriots because of how dumb Atlanta was, but that is always a part of the equation in any win or loss and takes nothing away for me. In fact it adds to the story.

Agreed. There's no way to make a comeback like that without the other team messing up too. Passing with tons of time on the play clock. Strip fumble is on Ryan just as much as it's on Freeman. Dude needs to see him coming. Not running after the Julio catch. Bizarre play calls on Atlanta's last possession in the 4th quarter. 28-28 and the play calling was confusing. They looked like they were scared to really throw deep. Finally, I am surprised they didn't try an onside kick to start Overtime. Everyone in the building knew the Patriots were gonna score a TD. The defense could hardly move. That was the only chance they had to win the game. I also blame Quinn for not telling Shanahan to run it. If you see your team is starting to choke, you need to take control. I'm positive BB would've done the same to McD if the roles were reversed.

Kdo5 · Oct 10, 2019

To me this game was even more satisfying than SB49. It was the completion of the revenge tour. Nothing more satisfying than ****head Goodell having to go and shake Brady’s hand afterward.

PatsFanSince74 · Oct 10, 2019

What amazing memories...!

My wife and kids went to an SB party hosted by NYG fans...I stayed home because I can hardly stand my own company during a Pats' SB game and can't reasonably expect strangers to do so.

Apparently there was a really obnoxious couple, husband and wife, who were equally rabid as Falcons Fans and Pats haters in attendance...my kid, wearing his TB 12 Jersey, sat quietly as their odious behavior worsened with every increase in the Falcons' lead. Others were pleased to see the Pats losing, but were more polite. Needless to say, my kid got to have the last words...and loudly...very, very, very loudly..."in their face."

For myself, I suffered quietly, texting my kids and getting a sympathetic text from my brother (a 'Niners' fan in Northern CA). I wish I could say I didn't give up when it got to 28--3, but that would not be the truth. I could barely watch the game and did imbibe a bit of Buffalo Trace...OK, more than "a bit."

When Gostkowski clunked that Extra point, leaving it at 28--9, I did think..."well, it's a three score game...I just don't think there's enough time on the clock." When they settled for an FG after Brady was sacked, I thought..."hmm...they needed a Field Goal anyway...now it's a two score game...but really four scores with two two-pointers...don't give up just yet, but don't kid yourself."

Then...yada...yada...yada...my reaction when White scored the game winner? Three words, "Well, **** me." I was too emotionally drained to do or say anything else...I did have the energy to pour myself a "tad" more Buffalo Trace, though.

Hyped · Oct 10, 2019

I also didn't believe we could possibly win the game until Hightower's sack-forced-fumble recovery....and was expecting to lose after Jones' tip toe sideline catch....and was expecting to fail on one or both of the two pointer attempts...wasn't sure Amendola got in as I was on the other side of the stadium....

But the final White TD...right in my line of sight! Albeit from the nose bleeds....

==============================

Another memorable part from the game: Sometime in the 3rd when it was still 28-3...a Patriot fan maybe 6-7 seats to my left was into some trash talk with 2 Falcons fans to my right...about 20-25 feet apart. The Falcons fans were talking ****...and the Pats fan told them to STFU...and brought up four fingers signifying 4 SB wins... then gesture-invited them over to blow him. The Falcons fans said, "No, you come over here....". The Pats fans' gf was elbowing and telling him to STFU. The entire section watched this pathetic exchange....

Come the 4th quarter...those Falcon fans were nowhere to be seen...LOL.

PatsFanSince74 · Oct 10, 2019

Uncle Rico said:
Beyond the forums — how many millions of Pats haters turned the game off at 28-3, content in knowing the Evil Patriots had been humbled, only to wake up and hear the outcome the next morning. I can just picture them, all groggy and making their coffee, tv on in the background just to get the weather, no thought to the Super Bowl. Then the sports report comes on and they’re like “....huh? What? You’ve gotta be @&$#ing $#@$ing me.”

Thank goodness that the closest I've come in recent years to that experience was last December's game in Miami when I left the room certain we had won...and then...

Ice_Ice_Brady · Oct 10, 2019

This timeframe will make you wonder if you should read about one of Einstein’s time dilution theories.

9:05 PM: in this minute, the Patriots trail 28-3 and moments after, still at 9:05, cut the lead to 28-9 on White’s first TD.

<stuff happens>

10:06 PM: in this minute the Patriots complete the two-point conversion to tie the game at 28.

One hour in real-time is the amount of time it took to erase a 25-point deficit.

102 Pat · Oct 10, 2019

oldrover said:
Remember... that’s the GAME DAY THREAD.

Many will call it a game tonight after the first 3 and out by the Pats offense...

chris_in_sunnyvale · Oct 11, 2019

patfanken said:
I don't understand how someone can pay so much money to see their home team play and then walk out in the 3rd quarter of a game their team is AHEAD???!!!!! Makes no sense at all. That is the time when you get to relax and LUXURIATE in the game.

There is something to be said about an intense back and forth game, especially when your team ends up winning. Well the same goes for a game when your team blows out the other team and you can relax and enjoy the impending victory without being on edge for 3 hours and afraid you are going to miss something if you take a piss.

Confession time: I was fine all through the first half because I knew were were going to get the ball at the start of the half and it would be 21-10 and the game would be on. However after we DIDN'T score and they DID, I admit to turning it off. I managed to keep it off for about 15 minutes and even when they were starting to come back my attitude was that it was "nice" that were were going to make it look close.

I mean the chances of winning were SO improbable. Zero chance of error. We had to score EVERY time and stop them EVERY time....AND get two 2 point conversions. An amazing night. It was glorious for any Pats fan to live through, and I can't imagine what it must have been like for a Falcons fan.

Just a thought that occurred to me. If you had the power of fate in your hands and you had the option to change history so that just ONE of these three things happened. Which would you choose.

1 The "helmet catch" was dropped and any of the 3 holding calls that could have been call had been thrown and Pats eke out their undefeated season.

2. Welker catches the pass. The Pats run out the clock and win a somewhat unexpected championship season

3. Events of Superbowl LI unfold just as they did.

You know as much as that Atlanta win was for the ages, I think an undefeated superbowl team would have been even more historic. And wouldn't it have been nice to have sent Junior Seau off with a superbowl ring.

What do you think?

I’m sticking with SB51. 19-0 would have been amazing, but I can already hear the “Do Philip Rivers’ ACL and Rex Ryan get rings, too?” jokes. With the way the AFCCG went and what would have been a 14-10 SB42 win per your scenario, the team effectively would have limped to the finish line and while a win is a win, I think the game would go down as fairly forgettable a la SB39.

OTOH, SB51 is iconic. Lost in its aftermath is how hot Atlanta was coming into the game and really how hard they played right up until White barely crossed the goal line in OT. By breaking the tie with Montana in SB wins in that manner, Brady emphatically put to rest the GOAT discussion. And of course the best topper of all: Goodell being booed off the podium, handing over another Lombardi, showing the world who really won Deflategate.

All that being said, if instead of a 14-10 SB42 win, the game was won by Randy Moss hauling in that incredible throw by Brady on 3rd-and-20 in the waning seconds, I might reconsider my stance.

Regards,
Chris

Belmont Henry · Oct 12, 2019

I don't usually post here very often, but I've been a big time lurker for many years. I've already done the same thing you did a couple of times and it always helps me grasp the magnitude of what happened that day. For some reason, I feel kinda proud that I never turned the game off for even a second and occasionally brag about that to a friend of mine who gave up after the pick six. I was literally in tears by the end, which is not very common for me. Between that game and the Butler interception, it's just a unreal privilege to be a fan of this team! These memories will live forever.

everlong · Oct 12, 2019

One of my favorite memories was the day after a friend directed me to a Colt's forum thread about the game. There's this one random Bill's fan and all these Colts fans in their glory jump stomping on the Patriots. I forget which play it was on the first TD drive to make it 28-9 but it was a play the Falcons should have made but the Bill's fan posts something like "damn that's it they just let them off the hook, I hate to say it but get read for the comeback, I've seen this movie too many times as a Bills fan, you give them one break and it's over."

The Colts fans start slamming this guy who they were embracing the entire thread as a Patriot plant, having Patriots PTSD........The Bill's fan just says watch and wait for it I'm telling you. With every play thereafter the comedy gold just gets better and better. I had tears steaming down my face I was laughing so hard at the comments.

I should find that thread and re-read it.

Lavictoire · Oct 12, 2019

Redman443 said:
This was before I was on the forum, I wanted to see what you all were saying during 28-3 and jeez Most of you obviously thought it was over but some of you thought we were going to get blown out like the broncos in SB48. I remember I stopped watching it at halftime but turned it back on when we got a touchdown.

I was confident they could come back remembering how they overcame two 14 point deficits against baltimore. My son got up to leave and I said where are you going this ain’t over, they can still come back. I think I posted similar comment in game day thread. Just felt like they were able to climb back in. Man, how they would get the two pointers after the Tds. Loved the falcons owner standing on the sideline waiting to get the trophy and watching it all fall apart.

bormio · Oct 12, 2019

everlong said:
One of my favorite memories was the day after a friend directed me to a Colt's forum thread about the game. There's this one random Bill's fan and all these Colts fans in their glory jump stomping on the Patriots. I forget which play it was on the first TD drive to make it 28-9 but it was a play the Falcons should have made but the Bill's fan posts something like "damn that's it they just let them off the hook, I hate to say it but get read for the comeback, I've seen this movie too many times as a Bills fan, you give them one break and it's over."

The Colts fans start slamming this guy who they were embracing the entire thread as a Patriot plant, having Patriots PTSD........The Bill's fan just says watch and wait for it I'm telling you. With every play thereafter the comedy gold just gets better and better. I had tears steaming down my face I was laughing so hard at the comments.

I should find that thread and re-read it.

Colts’ fans would not know that. We usually just blow them out

Bella*chick · Oct 12, 2019

I really wish I could get over 18-1 but I just can’t. I wish I could, I try to heal but I can’t. I just continue pretending it never happened.

Went back and read the SB51 thread.

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