is McDermott the biggest whiner in the nfl?

I don t know but he is looking that we are 4-0...that s s'enough for me...

Redman443 said:

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One of the staffers was Brian Belichick...

Woke up at 630 and no Sean McDermott on google home page.
At 8am its back as the lead story again, its like the AB thread it won't just go away.

JMC00 said:

MAYBE TELL YOUR F***KING STUPID QB TO GO DOWN INSTEAD OF TRYING TO FIGHT FOR EXTRA YARDS

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I called out his whining in the game thread. He must have pissed and moaned at least five times during the game and it was well beyond the standard coaching complaints. If he had unlimited challenges the game would have ended at midnight.

FYI on Golic and Wingo they both agreed the hit on Josh Allen should not have been a penalty. They cite Allen as the one who lowered his head.
They both felt once McDermott views the film he will change his tune.

Big-T said:

Tell your QB not to engage defenders by lowering his helmet into them in the future, maybe?

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Exactly. He led with his head. If you lead with your head, it might get hit.

Mack Herron said:

Please cite the rule that you claim was violated.

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The 2018 change on helmet contact:
Here are the basics of the NFL’s new helmet rule

He lowered his helmet and hit him in the head. They will always, and should always, call this. No brainer. The tackler has to adjust. If this had been done to Brady I would be out for blood.

People saying Allen should be the one getting penalized are being silly. That's not how they call this rule.

That said, Allen should be penalized for showing poor judgment. But you gotta admire his grit.

neuronet said:

The 2018 change on helmet contact:
Here are the basics of the NFL’s new helmet rule

He lowered his helmet and hit him in the head. They will always, and should always, call this. No brainer. The tackler has to adjust. If this had been done to Brady I would be out for blood.

People saying Allen should be the one getting penalized are being silly. That's not how they call this rule.

That said, Allen should be penalized for showing poor judgment. But you gotta admire his grit.

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Allen lowered his head and leads with the crown of his helmet into the side of Jones head. Allen is a RB here and this is a routine play. No infraction occurred.


Here is the NFL rule:

The Rule: As approved by NFL clubs in March, it is a foul if a player lowers his head to initiate and make contact with his helmet against an opponent. Contact does not have to be to an opponent's head or neck area – lowering the head and initiating contact to an opponent's torso, hips, and lower body, is also a foul. Violations of the rule will be easier to see and officiate when they occur in open space – as opposed to close line play – but this rule applies anywhere on the field at any time.

Penalties for Violation: Loss of 15 yards. If the foul is by the defense, it is also an automatic first down. The player may also be ejected. Ejection standards:

1. Player lowers his helmet to establish a linear body posture prior to initiating and making contact with the helmet
2. Unobstructed path to his opponent
3. Contact clearly avoidable and player delivering the blow had other options

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Fact Sheet - Use of the Helmet

Belichick has it right:

PlanB said:

I'd settle for fired

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I'd settle for him being banned from calling Patriots games. His bias is extreme and obvious. He sees things that are not actually happening like a drunk fan does such as calling for intentional grounding when Brady was clearly out of the pocket or JcJackson's feet being out of bounds when they clearly weren't. He was pissed about a Bills penalty during a punt late in the game. He went silent when it appeared that Chung had a game changing interception. He very clearly roots against the Patriots when he is supposed to be neutral.

Mack Herron said:

Allen lowered his head and leads with the crown of his helmet into the side of Jones head. Allen is a RB here and this is a routine play. No infraction occurred.


Here is the NFL rule:

Fact Sheet - Use of the Helmet

Belichick has it right:

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The rule change mentioned in your quote has been my question throughout this.

I think the refs misapplied a rule

Mack Herron said:

Allen lowered his head and leads with the crown of his helmet into the side of Jones head. Allen is a RB here and this is a routine play. No infraction occurred.


Here is the NFL rule:

Fact Sheet - Use of the Helmet

Belichick has it right:

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This ignores how they call it in practice is what I'm saying. It is 99% of the time applied to defenders making tackles, not RBs putting their head down and running. The rule isn't written well but this is exactly the kind of situation the rule is meant for! It couldn't be much more clear. The video shows a clear helmet-t0-helmet hit by a tackler who lowered his helmet (intent doesn't matter: I agree it seemed he was trying to avoid it so it wasn't flagrant, but he didn't actually succeed in avoiding it -- hence he gets the penalty, but not ejected: they made the right call).

If you said they should make the rule more clear, or apply it more consistently, you'd have no objections from me. But this was a clear-cut case. If they did not call this penalty they would be negligent as hell.

JMC00 said:

MAYBE TELL YOUR F***KING STUPID QB TO GO DOWN INSTEAD OF TRYING TO FIGHT FOR EXTRA YARDS

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McDimwit knows he cost his team a shot at winning with some stupid play calling so he's doing a bit of deflecting.

He's not yet but he is getting there faster.

I like the job he is doing in Buffalo and trying to create a culture, the players seem to be all in in his program but he needs to cut this crap.

Also, Josh Allen is a pretty dumb QB, yesterday I count 3 times he hold on the ball and took a sack on a 3rd down getting out of field goal range or making it more difficult for the kicker. Their FG going into halftime is a good example, luckly for us because that FG would put the game 16-13 in the 2nd half. Instead of going for it in the goal line in the 4th quarter they could have tied the game.

Sean McDermott Had A Rough Day And Other Leftover Patriots Thoughts Lolol

McDermott throwing a temper tantrum - and a challenge flag - over his opinion that forward progress should have been called was one of the dumbest things I've seen a coach do in the last couple years, so... yeah, he sucks.

Maybe he should try to coach the stupid out of Josh Allen rather than bemoaning the consequences of his stupidity. Kid's got talent, but he has no idea how to protect the ball or protect himself.

yes, yes he is....no poll needed

dreighver said:

Allen has every right to fight for the first down on 3rd down, and I feel bad he got concussed.

That said, Jones had every right to prevent Allen from gaining those yards.

Jones never left his feet and Allen was leaning forward at the time of the hit. Both players initiated the contact.

By the letter of the law it was not a penalty (let alone an ejection) because Allen was not a defenseless player.

Had a lot of respect for McDermott coming into today’s game and he managed to throw away all that respect by showing his ignorance of the rules and behaving in a classless manner in the process.

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Reminds me of Harbaugh.

Silver Blue&Red said:

LOL.
Yea, watching the Bills stretch and warm up.
Like the 50,000 other fans in the house.

LOL

.. and, they weren't coaches, I believe.

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He was just building in an excuse in case they lost. The narrative could be all about Pats spying before the game.

neuronet said:

This ignores how they call it in practice is what I'm saying. It is 99% of the time applied to defenders making tackles, not RBs putting their head down and running. The rule isn't written well but this is exactly the kind of situation the rule is meant for! It couldn't be much more clear. The video shows a clear helmet-t0-helmet hit by a tackler who lowered his helmet (intent doesn't matter: I agree it seemed he was trying to avoid it so it wasn't flagrant, but he didn't actually succeed in avoiding it -- hence he gets the penalty, but not ejected: they made the right call).

If you said they should make the rule more clear, or apply it more consistently, you'd have no objections from me. But this was a clear-cut case. If they did not call this penalty they would be negligent as hell.

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I disagree, because to my eyes, the defender stopped before the contact.
Allen was the player who was moving.

Jones lowered his shoulder and stood ground, to stop Allen from getting the 1st down.
Allen put his body on the line out of desperation. And led with his lowered helmet.
Then hit Jones, who was blocking his path.

Any QB, who becomes a runner is stupid, to not slide in that situation IMO.
Allen wants the 1st down, Jones doesn't.

I was OK with the hit...it was to stop a guy going for the first down. Also, I support a flag being thrown too...just one of those bang bang plays you hope never happens.

No talk about how that was also risky for Jon Jones with him being the smaller player absorbing a helmet hit too....