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If you think that any rape case that isn’t reported immediately is bullsh.t then you are too misogynistic to have any discussion about it. And when multiple people accuse someone of the exact same kinds of activities they are usually guilty. Not always, but usually. Bottom line, you are just a fan boy who would take anyone, no matter how reprehensible, if you thought it would help them win. That’s both sad and pathetic.

Lady #2 said he came onto her wearing practically nothing, she spurned his advances, and that was that. Poor taste again, but he probably tried it because it works sometimes with groupies and fans. But he didn’t assault force himself on her, or rape her. So I don’t see case #2 having much to do with case #1....I think we all know he’s a player (and generally a d1ckhead), but violent rape and douchey frat boy behavior are not the same thing.

Anyway, with all of Brown’s accusations it would be nuts to say he isn’t severely entitled and a turd. But that’s why landing with the league’s best team for modeling behavior was hopefully going to be a good thing.
 
Well if YAHOO says yes...
I rank the information on Yahoo right above Facebook. I'm guessing there was a clause in the Brown's contract and I'll put my money on the Patriots.
 
But that’s why landing with the league’s best team for modeling behavior was hopefully going to be a good thing.

The operative words being 'was' and 'hopefully.' Not for the first time in this discussion the old saw 'You can save someone from most anything but themselves' comes to mind.
 
Let me take that back. Brown may have been put on the Exempt List by the league, since Goodell has just met with Taylor. That, or an investigation would have been ongoing and the Patriots had options for what to do with him during that time. Goodell does in fact have the authority to use the IL even if criminal charges are not brought forth...this was discussed at length in another thread. He hasn’t before, may choose not to, but doesn’t indeed have that authority.

Either way, he was released just as the league’s investigated began because of the text messages, which a vocal crowd here (not saying vocal is right) thinks is a very underwhelming reason for a knee jerk release within hours. Put another way, let’s suppose hypothetically the woman did make up things about Brown and damaged his reputation and lied to him about being desperate for money, and he responded with those texts, referencing her public Instagram photo of her kids not looking so poor and penniless. That is grounds to void a contract? Because he disobeyed “orders” from the league who are not his lawyers and should stay the F out of a non-violent civil suit in the first place?

Anyway, that’s fine that other have different opinions on this. Up until 2015, it really bothered me when the Patriots signed low character guys, even Talib. That changed when it became apparent the league is a slimy, hypocritical pile of **** with zero actual ethics or principles anyway. You don’t have to loom further than Tyreek Hill to see the Patriots have put themselves at a competitive disadvantage and weren’t forced to, and once again, Brown was apparently expected to just change his impulsive behavior in two weeks instead of realistically getting through to him over time. Brady knee he could mentor him.

I don’t care about the Chief’s bad decisions, and like many here I was willing to go along with Belichick treating Brown’s behavior as past issues, whether they knew of them or not. Brown however had to know that he was in a position of no tolerance for continuing to act out, and his bullying text went way over that boundary. Since his release he has behaved exactly the way I said he would behave at the time of his release, he took absolutely no responsibility, showed no remorse, played the victim, and blamed and lashed out at everyone else, including those who put their reputation on the line and were willing to pay him over 10 million this season. This imo proves that he is what I said he was, a malignant narcissist, and that is one of the very worst personality disorder’s that there is. He would not have changed, as his absolute lack of remorse or inability to take any responsibility demonstrates. I’m really really glad he’s gone, now they can focus solely upon becoming the best TEAM they can. This isn’t NFL Daycare, it’s a professional team that requires professional behavior and responsibility. All of this is on Brown, period. And if they require him to acknowledge that before returning to the NFL he will never play again.
 
If Gordon falls off the horse, this offense is in big trouble. Can think of Antonio Brown as last year’s Kevin Durant. They were just fine without him (some thought better and smoother on offense), but never take depth for granted, and he did make a big difference against the best competition. But I do love Gordon...hope he stays on track. Easy to root for the guy.

Kevin Durant is nowhere near the locker room live hand grenade/head case Clowntonio is.

Other than that, it’s a good analogy.
 
I don’t care about the Chief’s bad decisions, and like many here I was willing to go along with Belichick treating Brown’s behavior as past issues, whether they knew of them or not. Brown however had to know that he was in a position of no tolerance for continuing to act out, and his bullying text went way over that boundary. Since his release he has behaved exactly the way I said he would behave at the time of his release, he took absolutely no responsibility, showed no remorse, played the victim, and blamed and lashed out at everyone else, including those who put their reputation on the line and were willing to pay him over 10 million this season. This imo proves that he is what I said he was, a malignant narcissist, and that is one of the very worst personality disorder’s that there is. He would not have changed, as his absolute lack of remorse or inability to take any responsibility demonstrates. I’m really really glad he’s gone, now they can focus solely upon becoming the best TEAM they can. This isn’t NFL Daycare, it’s a professional team that requires professional behavior and responsibility. All of this is on Brown, period. And if they require him to acknowledge that before returning to the NFL he will never play again.

I’m not dismissing your thoughtful response, but do you think Belichick can make that call about being the best TEAM himself?
 
It would be a truly unBelichickian type move if he signed AB to guaranteed money, without putting some ironclad outs in the deal, after what happened with AB in Pittsburgh and Oakland. The contract definitely contains a clause that addresses a scenario like this and the league, by issuing a restraining order for the conduct AFTER the game with the Dolphins, substantiates the release for cause. Whether or not that keeps the Pats from paying up remains to be seen. What's the case law look like on this one? Similar scenarios with similar deals and clauses that were broken by a player? What happened in those scenarios? My guess is there will likely have to be a compromise.
 
LOL Bendover Bob was so worried about the media pressure that he pissed away $9 million and cost the team depth at the same time.

Classic.
 
I rank the information on Yahoo right above Facebook. I'm guessing there was a clause in the Brown's contract and I'll put my money on the Patriots.
the national enquirer has more credibility than yahoo and facebook.
 
LOL Bendover Bob was so worried about the media pressure that he pissed away $9 million and cost the team depth at the same time.

Classic.

Yes, because nothing would have happened with AB after the texting incident. He was a lock to keep his mouth shut, stay out of trouble and not embarrass the team even more.
 
Guaranteeing $9M to AB was an uncharacteristically stupid move, so it'll suck if he ends up costing that much against the cap, but I guess I'd file it under "play stupid games, win stupid prizes".
 
Not a bad comparison. Short of some seriously deficient pressure awareness Stafford certainly appears to have the tools he just can't seem to get them working together efficiently on a consistent basis. Mayfield also appears to have the tools but the jury is out. Maybe he gets to the point where he settles down and realizes you can't be successful flying by the seat of your pants at this level anymore and maybe he doesn't. His 50¢ head isn't doing him any favors that's for sure.

the thing Stafford has going for him is that he’s pretty tough and he had a genuine no. 1 in megatron. Obj is a ticking time bomb.
 
I understand the comparison, but they are different.

Baker doesn't seem like a player who would step out of bounds on a third down run that could have been made just to avoid c0ntact, like Stafford did against the Patriots.

And Stafford is a grown up adult, something Mayfield isn't showing he is.

that’s why he’s a poor man’s Stafford. Same build, same talent but makes worse decisions.
 
We’re stuck with it most likely.
 
(clunk):eek:
Is that..... THE SKY FALLING:eek::eek:

:D
 
Anyone remember where Antonio Brown was when Pitt’s season was on the line last year?
Pittsburgh's season is never on the line, because no one ever gets fired. The Process is The Process.
 
I’m not dismissing your thoughtful response, but do you think Belichick can make that call about being the best TEAM himself?

Yes, and he almost always does. I can understand however why this is a big problem for Kraft, and I believe they did the right thing in releasing Brown. We have been really fortunate to have ownership that gave Belichick control and stayed out of the way, but there are instances that the owner has the right to make the call, and this is one of those instances.
 
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