Antonio Brown

IllegalContact · Sep 20, 2019

shmessy said:
I was talking about the poster you were answering.

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Sounds like we’ve beaten this topic to death

sean10mm · Sep 20, 2019

Here's the guarantee forfeiture clause of Brown's contract with the Pats. I am not a lawyer but it seems super, super broad.

shmessy · Sep 20, 2019

Biffins said:
I honestly feel he has been wronged

Yeah victimized by people putting phones in his hands.............

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Silver Blue&Red · Sep 20, 2019

TheBostonStraggler said:
But the thing is the text messaging to an opposing party, not even for Brown, could not have been expected?. IMHO without this messaging there's a really good chance it blows over. Nobody was going to be asking for him to be jailed and key thrown away because an appropriately placed towel. And the other lawsuit, at face value, seemed full of holes. He just had to play football and let his high priced attorneys deal with the rest. Again I think this would have blown over. Shocking even for him to have done this utterly incredibly massively shockingly stupid move that is the reason he is an ex-Patriot.
As far as short? yep you're right. I would have rather kept DT too but the numbers game was wrong to keep DT. For me, in a moment of I told you so , the lack of addressing TE goes back to the draft thread. But with that said, Patriots aren't stuck in the mud by a mile. This is still a good O and a good D.....just less so without AB and the potential that DT could have brought.

Maybe.
But he did something much, much worse.
He told BB he wouldn't, and he did.
Toast!!

NYCPATS4LIFE · Sep 20, 2019

mosslost said:
Pats will go to Super Bowl easy

I wouldn’t say easily. Right now their main competition is KC. They have money if they want to acquire some more defensive help. Baltimore is still an unknown. What we need to hope for is for Gordon to stay sober and maybe a guy like Meredith if he’s healthy can be another big bodied wideout after gordon for us.

SHOWTIME15 · Sep 20, 2019

SBLIII said:
suspension appears unlikely imo.

We don't know the outcome of the NFL investigation yet...

shmessy · Sep 20, 2019

sean10mm said:
Here's the guarantee forfeiture clause of Brown's contract with the Pats. I am not a lawyer but it seems super, super broad.

Does that mean $9 million cap space is back??????

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italian pat patriot · Sep 20, 2019

mosslost said:
Pats will go to Super Bowl easy

Seems you are very sure..
I have nothing contrary but probably this is not the right exact moment for this sentence

Family · Sep 20, 2019

Even if the cap savings goes to next year, they can guarantee money to balance that back.

mosslost · Sep 20, 2019

Hyped said:
Comments:

a.) At the end of the day, it was a good move to sign Brown. We took a free agent out of the pool and now returned him to the pool sullied. Anyone who picks him now will face intense media scrutiny and for that reason I don't expect AB to sign anywhere at least until his civil suit is resolved.

b.) I liked seeing Brown play in Miami...great football IQ...evident on the field.

c.) If a guy can't just STFU and play....it was never going to work out here no matter what. BB benched Welker for making foot related jokes.

Agree. Reality is he is sooooo dumb I can't believe it. He was a Patriot if he just did not send that text.

And honestly, looking at the actual text, I do think it was kind of alarming, even a little menacing.. and "menacing" someone is a thing in law by the way too.

BelichicksHoodie · Sep 20, 2019

He's an idiot. The text messages were indefensible. The rest you could make a case for.

Patjew · Sep 20, 2019

Did he hit all of his incentives?

stcjones · Sep 20, 2019

Th3Birdman said:
EXACTLY!!! People in this goddamn thread are acting like the Patriots gained something by subtraction here, and we are absolutely worse for this move.

Every single fan forum of teams in the AFC are breathing a collective sigh of relief right now, knowing that they actually have a chance to beat us without that guy. Just checked the stage 4 terminal cancer known as Chiefs Planet and they are climaxing right now. I cannot believe the Pats just gave what everyone wanted. We damned sure didn't cut Brady for Deflategate or fire Bill for Spygate, and this has just about the same amount of evidence as those did-- NOT A SHRED.

No conviction. No ruling. No exemption list. But we jut let go of a generational player because of a text message. This isn't Ray Rice. We don't have evidence for what's being claimed. But because he sent a text message we release him? I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing what's going on here.

Well said....brown to the chiefs next I bet...

shmessy · Sep 20, 2019

NYCPATS4LIFE said:
I wouldn’t say easily. Right now their main competition is KC. They have money if they want to acquire some more defensive help. Baltimore is still an unknown. What we need to hope for is for Gordon to stay sober and maybe a guy like Meredith if he’s healthy can be another big bodied wideout after gordon for us.

N'Keal Harry says hello.

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BradyFTW! · Sep 20, 2019

Biffins said:
I honestly feel he has been wronged

That was possibly true right up until the latest round of texts. But given that he did send those texts, there's just no way I can reach any other conclusion than "he clearly ****ed himself over"

mosslost · Sep 20, 2019

NYCPATS4LIFE said:
I wouldn’t say easily. Right now their main competition is KC. They have money if they want to acquire some more defensive help. Baltimore is still an unknown. What we need to hope for is for Gordon to stay sober and maybe a guy like Meredith if he’s healthy can be another big bodied wideout after gordon for us.

I think bad things will continue to happen to teams who face the Patriots.

ctpatsfan77 · Sep 20, 2019

primetime said:
Got caught with a bunch of weed in Costa Rica or whatever while on vacation with his family a couple summers ago. No big deal and obviously the team didn't care, but there was a solid contingent of Pats Fans Dot Com Posters (TM) not only calling for him to be cut, but claiming he would be locked up in federal prison for decades.

In general, they do not care about MJ et al. except to the extent that it makes them unavailable for games.

If they really did care, they could have cut Kevin Faulk, because you could make a very good argument his suspension for weed led to Brady's torn ACL.

BradyFTW! · Sep 20, 2019

shmessy said:
Does that mean $9 million cap space is back??????

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They should be able to get all but two weeks of game checks back, but it won't be credited until next year

stcjones · Sep 20, 2019

NYCPATS4LIFE said:
I mean dorsett is gonna have to step up now. Hopefully Gordon as well . I know what we are gonna get from julien Edelman. Our defense will keep us in games but the passing game has to be sharp.

You are right… Obviously the offense with brown in there is much more high powered and effective… Even if he’s a diversion on many plays… Offensive coordinator still had to game plan for the guy… I don’t think we’re gonna be worrying as much about Dorsett and Meyers in all honesty

libra957 · Sep 20, 2019

If AB kept his mouth shut, he wins, the civil case is BS at best.

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