Antonio Brown

primetime · Sep 20, 2019

AndyJohnson said:
This is 100% wrong.
It’s there because it is a different type of termination with different consequences, financially and legally.

Lol at three is no reason they just decided to do it and to specifically invoke it for no reason at all. First rule of holes my friend.

As are conduct issues.

You don't have a clue what you're talking about, but that's par for the course.

TB_Helmet · Sep 20, 2019

Todd Bradley said:
I honestly don't think a 4 game suspension would be the worst thing in the world, would let cooler heads prevail, but I feel like that's only going to set AB off even more, especially when it's been done strictly off of accusations.

The NFLPA would have a field day with that as well.

If he gets suspended for four games then 100% chance he’ll do something dumb during that time and 50% chance the Pats cut him for it depending on how dumb it is.

maust · Sep 20, 2019

AndyJohnson said:
But who he is doesn’t color what he did for better or worse.

maust1013 said:
Who he is colors everything he does, to think otherwise is either completely naive or illustrative of not understanding the expression

AndyJohnson said:
So you think that something that is perfectly acceptable for anyone else to do is unacceptable for AB because of who he is?
Well that’s one way to go but it seems ridiculous to me.

That is not what I said at all. Clearly you do not understand what is meant by 'coloring judgement' as what 'color' things are viewed in is how they are looked at in terms of being viewed through the lens of a preconceived subjective notion. That Brown has colored himself in a very unfavorable light through his past actions is undeniable. Not even his most ardent supporter could make a case for him having earned much in the way of slack when it comes to how his actions might be viewed. We need go no further than your own words to illustrate

AndyJohnson said:
Of course he can’t control himself. He is a complete turd.

We are not in disagreement over what I took to be your meaning, essentially that being "a turd" doesn't automatically make him guilty of any accusation levied against him. It does however most assuredly color the light in which such accusations are seen. Were you to have said "Who he is doesn't necessarily make him guilty in every given circumstance" then we would not be having this discussion. You misused the expression 'color' in such a way as to have it mean the polar opposite of how it is commonly held.

colour somebody’s judgment/opinions/attitudes etc | meaning of colour somebody’s judgment/opinions/attitudes etc in Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English | LDOCE

colour somebody’s judgment/opinions/attitudes etc to influence the way someone thinks about something, especially so that they become less fair or reasonable

NYCPATS4LIFE · Sep 20, 2019

TB_Helmet said:
I'm going to answer this because it was asked respectfully and not spammed a dozen times like it has been by some other fake Patriots fans from NYC in this thread.

If you think that SI routinely pays sources for information, then sure, maybe she got paid. I don't think they do, most media outlets don't pay for information (except for National Inquirer, etc.) as there are serious ethical violations in doing that and it reduces the level of trust in the outlet:

Chequebook journalism - Wikipedia

Now the counter-argument might be that you hate SI because of Deflategate or whatever, or you hate all news media because of political reasons. That's a different argument that doesn't belong on this board. If you think that all news is fake and just pays off sources then we just have to disagree on that because neither of us is going to convince the other.

If you think that SI doesn't pay sources except for this one case because they are trying to hurt that Patriots then that's yet another discussion and I'd say it's homerism / tinfoil hat (not saying you are, JMC, but others might).

To answer your other (reasonable) question then I thought @QuantumMechanic had a great post which was that the NFL has the potential to act faster to make it stop than the cops or the courts do, which could take weeks to months. It was actually pretty smart IMO, she knows how these things work.

Everyone on here is saying "The Patriots need to sit down with AB and tell him to stop being a distraction and sending text messages". Going to the NFL makes that happen a lot faster.

Also earlier this week, we talked a lot about your question about why she went to SI in the first place which was just that she heard that AB had assaulted another woman and wanted to go on the record with her own experience to support that woman (which from my perspective is reasonable even if I think the assault charge is questionable).

If you don’t think media bias toward the patriots doesn’t exist you’re crazy. Notice how those AB videos never made the national media only his texts. Also the stuff with brown saying he farted on his doctor’s face which is complete ********. Frankly you seem like a chicken little. This is all a hit piece by a hack who shouldn’t talk about brown’s morals and look at his own.

PatsGirl2011 · Sep 20, 2019

Todd Bradley said:
I honestly don't think a 4 game suspension would be the worst thing in the world, would let cooler heads prevail, but I feel like that's only going to set AB off even more, especially when it's been done strictly off of accusations.

The NFLPA would have a field day with that as well.

It wouldn’t be. It would let the league say they did something about it and now it’s over. Still believe Roger wants this all swept up especially given the race relation issues associated with the league and Kapernick

sambam94 · Sep 20, 2019

sorry if posted already, but Klemco on 98.5 this morning stated a criminal law suit is coming against AB. He wouldn't elaborate by who or what the crime.

mosslost · Sep 20, 2019

maust1013 said:
That Brown has colored himself in a very unfavorable light through his past actions is undeniable.

This.

There is an "accumulation" factor as well. Too much BS and embarassment and cringe worthiness.

The only way I am still in is 19-0

Antdawg · Sep 20, 2019

Not sure if the league will do anything about the text messages, but someone should have told AB (maybe they did and he just didn't listen) that texts like these make him look guilty. He's obviously trying to intimidate her. Whether he's innocent or not is irrelevant. The texts are clearly an intimidation tactic and I'm pretty sure BB's head is about to explode. IMO, he's one more false step away from being cut for good. You just can't be this stupid and keep a multi-million dollar a year job where optics are almost as important as what your production numbers look like.

RobertWeathers · Sep 20, 2019

karguy85 said:
Oh please. I didn't disrespect you in the least. Asking for an apology does not mean you deserve one. You obviously do not deserve an apology from me because I didn't say anything to you that necessitates one. I am now done arguing with you about whether I should apologize. Your antics right now are extremely juvenile. Perhaps you should apologize for that.

Clearly you have an issue admitting to any faults or showing any humility publicly. I'll let you sort that out.

sambam94 · Sep 20, 2019

also by Klemco, AB met the artist at some charity event for kids. Someone offered $450 for a pic she painted of AB(I think). AB upped it to $700, then hired her to paint another pic at his home. She worked 2 days and that's when he came towards her naked. She declined and was fired, AB paid her $2k for the 2 days, but stiffed the $700, which was for charity. nice guy.

VectorPrime · Sep 20, 2019

I want this dipshit off my team so badly.

LJRomanoff · Sep 20, 2019

shmessy said:
PEDs, egregious hits and other infractions don’t result in arrests or guilt admissions.

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None of those fall under the Personal Conduct Policy.

TB_Helmet · Sep 20, 2019

NYCPATS4LIFE said:
If you don’t think media bias toward the patriots doesn’t exist you’re crazy. Notice how those AB videos never made the national media only his texts. Also the stuff with brown saying he farted on his doctor’s face which is complete ********. Frankly you seem like a chicken little. This is all a hit piece by a hack who shouldn’t talk about brown’s morals and look at his own.

I never said there wasn’t media bias against the Pats. I just said that you’re a homer if you think SI doesn’t pay off sources except in this one specific case.

Also, you are continually using the phrase “chicken little” incorrectly which is further evidence that you are an imposter to this board where it’s used the right way all the time and your name should be NYCJETS4LIFe.

IndianPat · Sep 20, 2019

For all his talent and production, the only thing AB will bring to the Patriots is DISREPUTE. We should cut him.

BUSTAMOVE · Sep 20, 2019

Todd Bradley said:
I honestly don't think a 4 game suspension would be the worst thing in the world, would let cooler heads prevail, but I feel like that's only going to set AB off even more, especially when it's been done strictly off of accusations.

The NFLPA would have a field day with that as well.

That is why they must release him. The latest is not an accusation it is a text. A text only a self absorbed moron would make. If we have to walk around all year on eggshells because we are afraid of setting him off then it is going to be a long season. This dirtbag is taking the fun out of being a Patriot fan.

Up until now I figured since all the other stuff was when he was not playing for us it was not our problem. Now it is our problem. At least during Defaltegate and Spygate we knew the Patriot Way that we are so proud of was just being attacked unjustified. This time it is being attacked from within. Send this punk on his way. If he is not coddled then he is not happy, and even then he acts out. Gordon is a good kid and was deserving of love and energy. This self absorbed maniac has been given some love and energy but does not really care. He needs help not a team

mosslost · Sep 20, 2019

Antdawg said:
from being cut for good

just suspended I would think, if only to keep him off another team. (not that any team would be crazy enough.. Maybe the Steelers would)

NYCPATS4LIFE · Sep 20, 2019

sambam94 said:
also by Klemco, AB met the artist at some charity event for kids. Someone offered $450 for a pic she painted of AB(I think). AB upped it to $700, then hired her to paint another pic at his home. She worked 2 days and that's when he came towards her naked. She declined and was fired, AB paid her $2k for the 2 days, but stiffed the $700, which was for charity. nice guy.

O

He could be the worse person in the world but these are allegations! Prove it!!!! This klemko seems more invested on taking brown down than his alleged rapist.

Joey007 · Sep 20, 2019

I’m so sick of this AB circus. It’s not worth defending him anymore regardless of if he did it or not.

I want him off the team, tired of this.

Mack Herron · Sep 20, 2019

“Some things we’re looking into.”

Wordsmyth · Sep 20, 2019

Is it possible to cut trolls from the forum?

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