After two weeks, how many teams are done?

I would add Jaguars and Colts from AFC South. They have decent rosters but Texans have a much better offense and an okay defense. Titans are coached well may end up getting a wild card spot.

In NFC, Bears won't go anywhere with Trubisky. He doesn't seem to have improved since last year. If that team had an avg/above avg. QB, they have a decent change at a wildcard spot.

I think it is a day too early to rule out the jags.

qbno12 said:

I would add Jaguars and Colts from AFC South. They have decent rosters but Texans have a much better offense and an okay defense. Titans are coached well may end up getting a wild card spot.

In NFC, Bears won't go anywhere with Trubisky. He doesn't seem to have improved since last year. If that team had an avg/above avg. QB, they have a decent change at a wildcard spot.

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Deus Irae said:

I was looking at the standings, and I found myself surprised at the number of teams that I pegged as already being done after just two weeks (And, by done, I mean they're already obvious non-playoff teams, barring something I'd consider to be very unlikely), due to a combination of talent, injuries, and schedule. So, I thought I'd make a thread about it, and let others weigh in with their takes.

So, without further ado, how many teams do you have that are already done?

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2007 giants started 0-2 and their QB is Eli. Who knows.

nabwong said:

2007 giants started 0-2 and their QB is Eli. Who knows.

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Eli is not the Giants' QB.

What teams would have been on the list after two games in 2001?

Family said:

What teams would have been on the list after two games in 2001?

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I had the Pats still as a SB lock

I was impressed with Josh Rosens deep balls until he decided to make all his throws deep. His receivers didn't help him with the drops.

It's really premature to say teams are done after 2 weeks.... And if you say they are... Did they really start the season?

Family said:

What teams would have been on the list after two games in 2001?

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I think we can safely slot "Drew Bledsoe replaced by 6th round pick who went on to become the G.O.A.T." as

"something I'd consider to be very unlikely".

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I was impressed with Josh Rosens deep balls until he decided to make all his throws deep. His receivers didn't help him with the drops.

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Josh Rosen goes from playing with one of the worst offensive lines and supporting casts in Arizona last year that I can recall in recent memory to playing with.... An even worse offensive line and inferior supporting cast in Miami. Not getting much help early in his career.

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I think they call that Plunkett syndrome.....

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Well that's a great post by Field Yates... Rosen still had some nice accurate deep throws and his receivers dropped them... And if the line is bad they should emulate the pats and run done shorter routes... But that's on coaching and play calling

Clonamery said:

Their defense blows and their OL doesn’t seem improved all that much (thus far) so if they can’t run (well) then it’s merely an upgrade in athleticism but a downgrade in experience.

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We’ll see. QBs who aren’t anchored to the ground (Eli) tend to improve offensive lines (like in this case, the same guys blocking for the dominant Saquan Barkley) and defensives tend to improve when the offense isn’t 3-and-out at every meaningful step of the game.

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I think we can safely slot "Drew Bledsoe replaced by 6th round pick who went on to become the G.O.A.T." as

"something I'd consider to be very unlikely".

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G.O.A.T. is quickly becoming an understated term for TB12. Soon that term will be considered disrespectful to Tom . A new superlative nickname is needed, like The Great One in hockey.

Deus Irae said:

I was looking at the standings, and I found myself surprised at the number of teams that I pegged as already being done after just two weeks (And, by done, I mean they're already obvious non-playoff teams, barring something I'd consider to be very unlikely), due to a combination of talent, injuries, and schedule. So, I thought I'd make a thread about it, and let others weigh in with their takes.

So, without further ado, how many teams do you have that are already done?

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Half the AFC East is on suicide watch.

Deus Irae said:

Eli is not the Giants' QB.

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I should have written was. I meant the 2007 giants had Eli as a QB who was not expected to dig them out of a hole then.

Deus Irae said:

Let me start with the Broncos:

@Packers
Jaguars
@Chargers
Titans
Chiefs
@Colts
Browns
@Vikings
@Bills
Chargers
@Texans
@Chiefs
Lions
Raiders


I can't find 8 wins there.

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Might not take 8 wins this year.

nabwong said:

I should have written was. I meant the 2007 giants had Eli as a QB who was not expected to dig them out of a hole then.

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Ok, but the question is about which teams are done, and I gave my own person explanation of what I meant by "done". I also made the point that you usually can't really tell about teams being out until about week 4, and that the thread was about the surprisingly high number of teams I felt were already done in week 2, not about how we get occasional surprises in sports.


However, if you want look to context about that Giants team, some of what you can see in that 2007 season:

• The NFC was down, with few quality teams, including only 6 of the 16 teams ending up with winning records and only 4 with double digit wins (compared to 7 teams with both winning records and double digit wins in the AFC), which meant that slow starts were less likely to knock teams out of the playoffs.
• The two losses were to two of the best teams in the conference, Dallas (13-3) and Green Bay (13-3). They hadn't been at that level the year before, but they'd both shown signs of talent/improvement the year before.

So I'm not really sure what your point is, given all of that.

Galeb said:

Might not take 8 wins this year.

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You might be right. I don't think you will be, unless we see the AFCN or AFCS with disappointing win totals at the top of the division, but you might be right. Time will tell. The way QBs are dropping, not much would surprise me at this point.