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The patriots never got lucky though. Everytime they won they were just better than everyone and every time we lost we just got unlucky
I respect Eli. 2 rings. 2-0 against NE in the SB. Classy guy.
As good a reason as any other.Yup. Really hoping he gets into Canton as I’m the proud owner of some “game-worn” Eli memorabilia.
I respect Eli. 2 rings. 2-0 against NE in the SB. Classy guy.
Classy guys don't sell fake memorabilia. For this reason he should be disqualified from the HOF.
At this point all the allegations against him are just that...allegations
It's really insane how many people in the media apparently think that Eli Manning's a HOFer. An ESPN panel had something like 8 saying yes, 2 saying no and 2 undecided with some really ridiculous arguments.
Eli making the HOF would be the equivalent of Derek Jeter winning multiple gold glove awards despite being arguably one of the worst fielding SS in the league. I will certainly not be surprised if Eli gets in but it would be a travesty as far as I am concerned.
If he gets in almost solely due to his Super Bowl runs then Edelman and Hightower should be absolute locks as they both have more post season heroics than Eli.
He is a .500 QB (116-116) who made the playoffs 6 times in 15 years and only won a playoff game in 2 of those years. He had 4 Peyton's ( that's a one and done ) in the playoffs . On the other side of the scale, he caught lightning in a bottle 2 years and won the Super Bowl versus the Pats ( but it was his defense that carried the day) and 2 miraculous catches... With a different name, he isn't getting in the HOF.....but he will having played in NY....Eli and the Giants have been incredibly average for the past 15 or so years as evidenced by Eli's 116-116 record. If he is take take credit for the 2 Super Bowl wins then he has to take blame for his regular season record.
Facts as I see them:
- Eli's ranking in all time passing yards and TD's is a reflection of his durability and playing in this era. His volume stats compare favorably to prior HOF QB's due to this fact but compare unfavorably to his contemporaries.
- Average Eli season - 25 TD, 17 Int, 3850 yards 84.1 QB rating
- Vinny Testaverde and Drew Bledsoe both retired top 10ish in many volume stats. No one ever considered them HOF type QB's.
- Eli is typically ranked somewhere around 15th every year on efficiency stats
- Eli was clutch in both Super Bowl wins and deserves credit for the wins but he was far from exceptional as evidenced by the 36 offensive points scored in the 2 games combined
To me Eli was a durable, slightly above average QB who played well during 2 Super Bowl winning runs in his career. Had the ability to get hot and was periodically effective at the end of games. He deserves credit for the SB wins but just how much is really the big question.
His efficiency stats are embarrassing for this era and his volume stats will be dwarfed in the coming years. If he makes the HOF then how many QB's from this era should make it? Most top 10 QB's now post better stats than Dan Marino did throughout most of his career so should we expect to see a dozen QB's from the current era make it in?