Eli Manning benched

Hes so over the hill but capable sometimes...

borg said:

When a player gets benched, the owner is supposed to hold a press conference now???

My god .... will the “everyone gets a trophy” crowd survive in such a cruel world???

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He’s a franchise legend.

And who is the everyone gets a trophy crowd? That doesn’t even make sense

I have nothing against Eli. Fine player; just wish he didn’t complete 2 specific passes against us. Wish him the best. Now, retire already.

robertweathers said:

Hes so over the hill but capable sometimes...

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Francesca is a clown who knows nothing about football. But spot on here

maust1013 said:

He has earned the right to go out on his own terms, he took a lot of bullets for the incompetence of that front office

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Crippling the team with a QB making top 5 money, who isn’t even a top 15 quarterback, is a lot of the incompetence.

fightingirish595 said:

Francesca is a clown who knows nothing about football. But spot on here

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Ice_Ice_Brady said:

A huge amount of people outside of NY, and many even in NY, do not believe he’s a Hall of Fame player. It’s kind of insulting to chalk it up as “bitter” when the argument has teeth. He’s been largely a mediocrity for his entire career outside 8 games 2007 and 2011.

Scapegoated? Wake up, man...Eli has sucked balls for years, including when McAdoo benched him. He is slow to read defenses and makes offensive lines look worse than they are. There’s a reason why the quarterbacks you listed don’t have the same types of “bad” offensive lines. Hey, wasn’t Brady playing down both tackles and his starting center just two days ago?

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Yup he was scapegoated. They cut there starting right guard and tackle last year. That o line has been a joke for years

IcyPatriot said:

Barely top 50 in all time QB stats ... doesn't deserve it.

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He’s top 10 in passing yards and passing touchdowns. So that doesn’t make much sense

robertweathers said:

Hes so over the hill but capable sometimes...

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The Giants basically did the same thing to Phil Simms back in the early 90s...

fightingirish595 said:

He’s top 10 in passing yards and passing touchdowns. So that doesn’t make much sense

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I'm a hater ... makes sense.

fightingirish595 said:

Yup he was scapegoated. They cut there starting right guard and tackle last year. That o line has been a joke for years


He’s top 10 in passing yards and passing touchdowns. So that doesn’t make much sense

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When Jones plays well and doesn’t get sacked half the times as Eli, will you then acknowledge the real problem?

Ice_Ice_Brady said:

When Jones plays well and doesn’t get sacked half the times as Eli, will you then acknowledge the real problem?

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The o line is actually competent this year...

borg said:

The Pats have gazillions of players with 2 or more rings yet Ellie the QB who has sucked most seasons deserves a HOF ceremony?
The entire HOF voting mindset is fuc*ed

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The reality is that we do put wins more on the QB's shoulders. We do it with Brady all the time. You have to give Eli credit

lancerman said:

The reality is that we do put wins more on the QB's shoulders. We do it with Brady all the time. You have to give Eli credit

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I do give him credit for the two SB wins. I also see a 116-116 record.

Deus Irae said:

Eli is Joe Flacco
Eli is Trent Dilfer

The only real difference among the three is that Eli caught lightning in a bottle a second time.

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That's not really true. Dilfer won playing like dogshit and had an all time great defense backing him up. Eli's playoff stats.

2007: 72 of 119, 60.5%, 206 yards per game, 6TD's, 1 INT, 95 rating.

2011: 106 for 163, 65%, 304 yards per game, 9TD's, 1 INT, 103 rating

Say what you want, but against playoff competition he played like a stud. He was lights out specifically in 2011, and they didn't have some monster defense you could give credit to. He was the catalyst for that entire Super Bowl run and was a major component of 2007.

I can't call him Trent Dilfer. He was so much better than Dilfer just in general and in the playoffs. Flacco maybe, but Flacco was far more erratic than Eli. Eli was up and down too, but he had a higher baseline.

Here's the thing, if Eli gets in the HOF we should all be flattered. People think so much of us that he's getting in because of the team he beat. They think we are so ****ing good that the guy who beat us twice is thought of as a legend killer whose story is HOF worthy. Think about that. That's the Patriots legacy. We are so good that you can make your place in history by beating us once or twice.

Ice_Ice_Brady said:

Crippling the team with a QB making top 5 money, who isn’t even a top 15 quarterback, is a lot of the incompetence.

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And of course you and I would say no to top 5 money for taking those bullets and putting a good face on it with that despicable media horde. I never begrudge a player getting his. Was Reese stupid to pay it? Sure. But maybe in his heart he knew he'd only spend it on more of his broken pieces anyway.

fightingirish595 said:

Eli is absolutely a hall of famer

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On the plus side I think Eli was pretty good on SNL.

The clock struck midnight long ago. Congrats on the super bowls but definitely the luckiest player / team I've seen ever. Since 2001 the Giants have made it to the NFCC twice and both times they went on to win the super bowl. For a team who's only made 2 deep runs into the playoffs over 19 years thats a TON of luck / bounces to go your way to win the SB both times, with wild card caliber teams.

TommyBrady12 said:

The Giants basically did the same thing to Phil Simms back in the early 90s...

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That is straight up BS, this isn't even remotely similar to what went down with Simms who was cut before the season started and offered a job on the coaching staff. Wellington Mara absolutely did not disrespect him by ducking the press like his empty suit douche son. He was at the press conference himself as was GM George Young along with everyone of consequence in the organization and the old man was practically in tears. Young's contract gave him final say on the roster and Phil Simms (coming off labrum surgery) was too expensive a risk for Young's taste so he became the league's very first salary cap casualty. Wellington Mara wasn't happy about it, he read a statement in which he said as much but he had never interfered in the day to day running of the team and so deferred to Young's football acumen. It reportedly it had a lasting impact on their previously harmonious relationship.

Glauber: 20 years later, Simms reflects on release


"The risk was too great for the uncertainty," Young said at a news conference announcing Simms' release.

Team president and co-owner Wellington Mara was moved to tears when he bade farewell to Simms. He strongly disagreed with Young about the move, imploring him to change his mind. But Young, who had final say over the roster, refused.

"That almost caused an irreparable rift between George and my father," current Giants president John Mara said. "I don't know if my father ever got over that. Standing there at that press conference and driving home with him, that was a difficult period of time. George wanted to see Dave Brown and Kent Graham play, and we had given up a No. 1 pick for Dave Brown. It wasn't an easy time."