Antonio Brown

supafly · Sep 16, 2019

Bledsoehasaring said:
He is still be accused of farting in a doctors face and not paying a catering bill.

It’s been awhile since I’ve seen the fart video (shout out to fnord), but from what I recall, it was all done in jest.

Still, this dude is nuts and I fear that it took him too long to arrive here and straighten up. There’s a lot of baggage that Antonio brought from his previous shenanigans. My hope is that he can finally put some of this stuff behind him, serve whatever punishment he likely has coming, and still contribute for the stretch run/playoffs.

Tb12goesinya · Sep 16, 2019

IcyPatriot said:
Wow ... arrested or charge = guilt ... do tell.

You're barking up the wrong tree, I would be all for no league suspension unless convicted. But at this point a change to no possible suspension until charged would be a more realistic possibility

Obviously the player cant play while out on bail though

chris_in_sunnyvale · Sep 16, 2019

libra957 said:
Your honor it was a terrible towel.

In related news, 98.5 apparently has something called "The Package Report".

Regards,
Chris

karguy85 · Sep 16, 2019

Bledsoehasaring said:
It absolutely isn’t right. But why tell a magazine reporter? I think it’s pretty fair to say if someone wrongs you please don’t tell a magazine reporter and file a civil lawsuit first. Tell the police. That’s how due process works. Then I am ok with you talking to whoever you want or suing someone. Otherwise it’s just he said she said and impossible to navigate what really happened.

As I said, maybe what he did while completely inappropriate and unacceptable, was not a crime. Additionally, this is what investigative journalism is about. Doing research, additional digging and convincing people involved to speak (on or off the record).

Bledsoehasaring · Sep 16, 2019

karguy85 said:
As I said, maybe what he did while completely inappropriate and unacceptable, was not a crime. Additionally, this is what investigative journalism is about. Doing research, additional digging and convincing people involved to speak (on or off the record).

I agree with what you are saying. Dude might be a huge creep. It’s also possible that some of these allegations are not true. I am not a fan of trying anyone in the court of public opinion. I think it’s is unfair. Totally different situation, but they did that to brady over deflategate. And in my opinion it’s always wrong.

TheRainMaker · Sep 16, 2019

SI trolling. Plain and simple.

NE_Zealot · Sep 16, 2019

karguy85 said:
I watched the farting video and don't make much of it. Seems like nothing to me. The fact that he might have stiffed the doctor with regard to payment shows me a lot more.

With regard to the painter. I think it is very inappropriate to approach a woman almost completely nude, even if it was in his house (this is assuming the account is true). While there may not have been any crime committed, I don't think it's right. Can you imagine being hired as a woman to do work in an athlete's private home and then having the athlete, who is in tip-top athletic shape appear close to naked behind you for no other reason than to make a move. Could be pretty scary.

#fartgate?

Silver Blue&Red · Sep 16, 2019

BobDigital said:
Here are my thoughts on AB and they are pretty straight forward. I don't want him here after this year. Even if he rips up his contract and is willing to come back for cents on the dollar I would rather not have to deal with it and cheer for him. They already paid him 9M so there is a lot invested at this point.

While I think he is a piece of crap human being I currently don't believe he has done anything so immoral that they are forced to walk away from the player and eat the 9M. I do believe he has treated people and particularly women like ****. I think he has made sexual advances that straddle the borderline between creepy and sexual harassment/coercive behavior.

Also he appears to have violent outburst that so far have not resulted any serious injury or what I would consider true 'assault' but I could see him potentially taking that next step and snapping in the future. Also he routinely stiffs people who work for him.

I just don't want him here when he steps over the line. Hopefully it isn't in the next 6 months.

I'm usually not sold on the "I had a tough childhood", but if that is a universally accepted diagnosis, he certainly fits the bill.

He's had a very dysfunctional upbringing, to say the least.

His father left at a young age to pursue his own NFL career.

Had an A hole step father who threw him out of the house at 16, I believe.
The one that's throwing him under the bus in the media.

He lived with his friends families when he could and slept in the streets.

I think he's had a hard going and found something, that turned out very well.

That's an extreme change in lifestyle.

I'm not defending his actions , if true.
Just pointing out some facts we know.

TB_Helmet · Sep 16, 2019

TB_Helmet said:
It’s still due process. He wasn’t convicted of anything at that point, or even close to it.

I'm interested in why people are disagreeing with this.

The Pats cut Hernandez when he was arrested (and I supported that decision at the time mostly to differentiate us from the Ravens).

People on here are saying that AB shouldn't be cut unless he's convicted of something and furthermore are saying that even a player's arrest shouldn't warrant him being cut without due process.

What's the difference? Just the crime he's being charged with?

Fatmancryin · Sep 16, 2019

Bledsoehasaring said:
He is still be accused of farting in a doctors face .

He didn’t fart in the drs face per the video.

It’s not like he farted under the covers so your wife can smell it and then laugh about it as she gags.

TB_Helmet · Sep 16, 2019

NYCPATS4LIFE said:
This woman’s story is a lot different than Big Ben. A lot of inconsistencies going back to wanting 1.6 million for a business venture.

Big Ben was never charged with anything let alone convicted.

Everyone saying that Goodell shouldn't be able to arbitrarily decide whether to suspend AB based on Goodell's own (usually flawed) judgement has to make the same argument to support Big Ben, otherwise you're being hypocritical.

TB_Helmet · Sep 16, 2019

Bledsoehasaring said:
It absolutely isn’t right. But why tell a magazine reporter? I think it’s pretty fair to say if someone wrongs you please don’t tell a magazine reporter and file a civil lawsuit first. Tell the police. That’s how due process works. Then I am ok with you talking to whoever you want or suing someone. Otherwise it’s just he said she said and impossible to navigate what really happened.

Jesus dude, read the article. The painter didn't file a lawsuit and didn't even mention this to anyone she learned that AB is being accused of something else.

Nikolai · Sep 16, 2019

I got bored reading the same 4-5 arguments around Page 6, but I'm just taking the "wait and see" approach with all of this...reserving judgment since we're still missing some details.

That said, there are a few of us who have been saying "CTE" with this guy for over a year now. This kind of behavior kinda does remind me of the Hernandez ****, and his CTE issues are well documented. As a Pats fan, I'd love for this guy to play the rest of the season, put up huge numbers, stick it in Pittsburgh's face that he helped us to #7.

But the human side of this is that this guy is quite probably a tragedy in progress. If not him, then someone else could wind up hurt if there isn't some sort of meaningful intervention to address his behavior.

Silver Blue&Red · Sep 16, 2019

...and not to beat a dead horse, has anyone really sat down and told this guy how to deal with these extreme changes?

The Steelers? The Raiders?
They used him like an asset.

Maybe, just maybe the Pats/TB can help with that.

The Pats track record isn't perfect with this, but if any team can help him, give them a chance. (If he's innocent of rape).

Remember everyone jumping on the Gordon signing?
Still a work in progress, but everyone wanted to banish the guy (media).

DaBronxPats14 · Sep 16, 2019

sambam94 said:
because the civil suit was filed when he was a Patriot...no conspiracy

Yes it's understood and both parties KNEW this was going to civil court. All I'm saying is this happened on Steeler's watch. They would be more inclined to answer questions about this. Go as ask Tomlin and their players about it those yrs not BB, TB and Pats who got hammered with questions only having AB for two days.

DaBronxPats14 · Sep 16, 2019

Froob said:
Are we blaming the Steelers for not baby sitting him..?

No, I didn't say that. I said they would know more about this then Pats would for having him only two days. Question them. Common sense.

Bledsoehasaring · Sep 16, 2019

TB_Helmet said:
Jesus dude, read the article. The painter didn't file a lawsuit and didn't even mention this to anyone she learned that AB is being accused of something else.

I was combining both allegations. The painter talked to a reporter. The other accuser went straight to civil court. That’s why the word “or” is in my post not “and”.

TB_Helmet · Sep 16, 2019

Bledsoehasaring said:
I was combining both allegations. The painter talked to a reporter. The other accuser went straight to civil court. That’s why the word “or” is in my post not “and”.

Gotcha, that definitely wasn’t clear, since you use “and” once and “or” elsewhere.

Bledsoehasaring · Sep 16, 2019

TB_Helmet said:
Gotcha, that definitely wasn’t clear, since you use “and” once and “or” elsewhere.

I just saw that. I should have been more clear.

Patstopia · Sep 16, 2019

karguy85 said:
As I said, maybe what he did while completely inappropriate and unacceptable, was not a crime. Additionally, this is what investigative journalism is about. Doing research, additional digging and convincing people involved to speak (on or off the record).

Please don't confuse investigative reporting with this article. You don't publish an article with no corroboration if your an investigative reporter. You do it if your a hack. You need witnesses not someone complaining because they didn't get paid. And you never write and accusation that can never be proven!

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