19-0 . . . Are They Going for It?

Let's pump the brakes until they have two starting quality tackles

PatsBoy12 said:

Okay, so this won't be the typical 19-0 thread. I'm listening to 98.5 and they're suggesting that the Pats are going after it. They say that it's the reason we went and signed AB after all. What do you all believe? I'm not asking if you want it or think it'll happen. I'm asking do you all believe the Pats want it and are going for it? Discuss

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I hate these threads. OF COURSE they are going for 19-0. Do you think there is an athlete out there who wants anything less? Do you think Bill and Bob get together after the Superbowl and discuss how many games they want to lose the next season?

I ALWAYS predict the Pats will go 19-0. That is what FANaticS do. On to New York! On to 3-0!

wizwor said:

I hate these threads. OF COURSE they are going for 19-0. Do you think there is an athlete out there who wants anything less? Do you think Bill and Bob get together after the Superbowl and discuss how many games they want to lose the next season?

I ALWAYS predict the Pats will go 19-0. That is what FANaticS do. On to New York! On to 3-0!

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Okay, then:

a) Why click the thread when it's apparent in the title what is is/was

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b) You can predict it all you want, but there's a reason why we're talking about it and it's special, and that's because IT'S NEVER BEEN DONE.

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c) The question was not what FANS want or don't. I made that clear in the original post. My question was whether or not anyone believed that it's something in the recesses of BB's mind as the one thing that they failed to accomplish in this amazing run after coming so close and having a roster (barring injuries) that has the potential to accomplish it this season.



I'm thankful and respectful for all of the opinions in this thread, but the people saying things like OF COURSE and the like . . . the reason it's a topic is because it's really hard to do even if you're aiming to win every game. Of course the team is trying to win every game, but being that it's so tough and it takes a lot to actually accomplish it, it's still worth talking about to some degree. Respect to everyone.

glm said:

Gotcha. Honestly the pressure was way too much for them. Have you read about their practices before the super bowl?

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Yeh practice was terrible. And they were not impressive at all against the Jags or Chargers. Hell, they may not make that SB with a healthy Rivers and L.T.

The offense slowed down somewhat towards the end of the season. But nobody focused on it because they kept winning.

And this isn't hindsight either. But the day of SB 42 just didn't feel right. I wasn't buying the point spread. Something felt "off". Again, this is before that game started.

Patstastic said:

Yeh practice was terrible. And they were not impressive at all against the Jags or Chargers. Hell, they may not make that SB with a healthy Rivers and L.T.

The offense slowed down somewhat towards the end of the season. But nobody focused on it because they kept winning.

And this isn't hindsight either. But the day of SB 42 just didn't feel right. I wasn't buying the point spread. Something felt "off". Again, this is before that game started.

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I think you're mis-remembering the Jags game. They completely demolished them and were very good, especially offensively. They even pulled out the Statue of Liberty play near the goal line on one of the drives. They did, however, struggle against the Chargers.

Patstastic said:

Yeh practice was terrible. And they were not impressive at all against the Jags or Chargers. Hell, they may not make that SB with a healthy Rivers and L.T.

The offense slowed down somewhat towards the end of the season. But nobody focused on it because they kept winning.

And this isn't hindsight either. But the day of SB 42 just didn't feel right. I wasn't buying the point spread. Something felt "off". Again, this is before that game started.

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Agree with everything except for the jags game. They were clicking that game except for Randy Moss, he had only one catch if I remember correctly. He was going through those BS sexual assault allegations which had him distracted.

The team probably doesn't think of 19-0, they are just focused on the next one, however as fans we can dream and think of scenarios. So I was thinking , can you imagine if the Patriots made the SB against the Niners. The story lines would be endless, it could happen. JG is doing well there so far this year !

FCB02062 said:

Let's pump the brakes until they have two starting quality tackles

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I agree with you.

First off, I don't think we have the cap to afford him whatsoever. Nor do I think we pull the trigger. So I want to make that clear.

However if it's somehow possible, I think we need to bite the bullet and give a 1st to the Skins for Trent Williams. Yes it may backfire. But this team is loaded everywhere except maybe the 2nd most important position in football. Yeah you don't want to risk the future. But what future is there with a broken Brady? OL is a weakness. If that is stabalized, we have no weaknesses. None. (Well except a certain special teams player that I'll mention in that thread). I don't want a repeat of 2015. With a healthy OL that team wins one of the three games against the Eagles, Jete, and lolphins. We have home field against Denver.

Not saying my view is right or wrong. It's just my opinon.

One game at a time, Goal,is to win this current week, nothing more, nothing less. I am so glad I don’t live in New England and have to listen to those blowhards on the radio trying to fill air time....

You may want to read your original post...

PatsBoy12 said:

Okay, so this won't be the typical 19-0 thread. I'm listening to 98.5 and they're suggesting that the Pats are going after it. They say that it's the reason we went and signed AB after all. What do you all believe? I'm not asking if you want it or think it'll happen. I'm asking do you all believe the Pats want it and are going for it? Discuss

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Then re-read mine...

wizwor said:

I hate these threads. OF COURSE they are going for 19-0. Do you think there is an athlete out there who wants anything less? Do you think Bill and Bob get together after the Superbowl and discuss how many games they want to lose the next season?

I ALWAYS predict the Pats will go 19-0. That is what FANaticS do. On to New York! On to 3-0!

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Then ask IAN to delete the thread because, OF COURSE they are going for 19-0.

glm said:

Agree with everything except for the jags game. They were clicking that game except for Randy Moss, he had only one catch if I remember correctly. He was going through those BS sexual assault allegations which had him distracted.

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For as great as Moss was in his career, he really didn't have a great postseason resume. I know he caught the go ahead TD in SB 42. Otherwise, his numbers seemed to dip in January (And February). Maybe I'm wrong on that though.

Patstastic said:

For as great as Moss was in his career, he really didn't have a great postseason resume. I know he caught the go ahead TD in SB 42. Otherwise, his numbers seemed to dip in January (And February). Maybe I'm wrong on that though.

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He was up and down in the post season. He's had games where he's killed it (mostly when he was younger) and games where he's disappeared (mostly when he was older).

I think they want to win the last NFL game on the schedule

wizwor said:

You may want to read your original post...


Then re-read mine...



Then ask IAN to delete the thread because, OF COURSE they are going for 19-0.

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Don't need to. I know what I typed. I typed it. Love the maturity. Good for you. Macrocosm vs microcosm.

Patstastic said:

In a weird way I think the 07 Pats may have been better off losing a game or two during the season. They didn't face alot of adversity during the season. And they got caught up trying to win Madden style. It worked well...until they faced adversity and couldn't adjust against a defense capable of taking away what they did best.

I don't think this Patriots team will go undefeated. Too much parity. It's unrealistic to expect. I don't think anyone will go undefeated again for quite some time. But I do expect them to get the 1 seed. And I don't see another team in the league that is as balanced as this one (Though the OL needs fixing). That's all that matters.

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If Brady hadn’t badly injured his ankle in the AFCCG and Neal hadn’t gone down in the SB, NE wins that game. Not to mention the time taken away to deal with the “taping walkthroughs” crap.

Spare me psychologizing about how supposedly losing a game would make them adjust more easily.

just stop...

QuantumMechanic said:

If Brady hadn’t badly injured his ankle in the AFCCG and Neal hadn’t gone down in the SB, NE wins that game. Not to mention the time taken away to deal with the “taping walkthroughs” crap.

Spare me psychologizing about how supposedly losing a game would make them adjust more easily.

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I could just as easily turn around and say the Rams definitely win Super Bowl 36 if their practices weren't taped. But that's far fetched. Just like you saying the Pats definitely win with Neal and a non gimpy Brady.

The Giants had 4 guys who could rush the passer. They made adjustments from the first meeting. Their defense got better as the year progressed. Their record wasn't as bad as indicated either.

Patstastic said:

I could just as easily turn around and say the Rams definitely win Super Bowl 36 if their practices weren't taped. But that's far fetched. Just like you saying the Pats definitely win with Neal and a non gimpy Brady.

The Giants had 4 guys who could rush the passer. They made adjustments from the first meeting. Their defense got better as the year progressed. Their record wasn't as bad as indicated either.

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That game was also as corruptly officiated as any game in the history of professional sports. If it had merely been officiated honestly, we would have won. The most blatant example is when Troy Aikman can be heard by all 300 million or however many people watched the game across the globe, when there's just over a minute left, saying repeatedly, "Something is wrong with the play clock, why don't they fix the clock?", as the Giants reeled off about fifteen seconds worth of plays during which time about two seconds ticked off the play clock. They would have run out of time and would have lost had the clock been administrated honestly.

There are several other extremely blatant examples of plays that were turning points in the game and which I have enumerated in other threads on here in the past. But the one above all by itself proves beyond doubt that that game was fixed as surely as the Black Sox one was.

maust1013 said:

I think they start every year with an eye towards winning that 19th game. If they happen to win the 18 before it that would be great too but the goal in building the team is always to get into the best position to win the last game they play.

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Actually, this isn't true. I've heard BB suggest before that the first four games of the season are toss-aways so he can figure out what's working and what isn't. I think he's played many seasons that way, starting out. This is different. They are mutilating teams and a clear message was being sent late in the 4th today when Brady was airing it out in a 37-0 game. They were clearly running up the score (which I have no problem with) and don't tell me it was because Flores went for it on 4th down. The Dolphins hadn't scored a single point. You try to salvage something to keep your team's morale up and that's all Flores was doing there. BB knows that.

They're playing the intimidation card which is why they wasted no time adding Brown. I believe they knew Brown was in the fold a long time before the Raiders cut him. And this is the crescendo of the FU tour, a 19-0 season. Why else in the world would you have Brady out there throwing bombs late in the 4th in a 37-0 game, 2nd game of the season? The message is clear. And I happen to love every second of it.

Antdawg said:

Actually, this isn't true. I've heard BB suggest before that the first four games of the season are toss-aways so he can figure out what's working and what isn't. I think he's played many seasons that way, starting out. This is different. They are mutilating teams and...

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Which in no way makes my post 'not true'