Malcolm Mitchell is not in a good place right now...

Patsfanin Philly said:

Still better luck than some (most?) of the UFlorida draftees....

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Is UFla still a real school? (JK)

KontradictioN said:

I was coming it to make that point. He could, and probably will, end up coaching at some point. He had a good mind for the game. But he’s struggling with losing the ability to play at the top level. At least he went out - making some absolutely clutch grabs in the biggest comeback of all time of the biggest game on the planet.

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I was thinking of Tyrone McKenzie, 3rd round Pats pick in 09 (?) Looked good in rookie minicamp and tore up his knee. Was never the same and bounced around w a few teams before retiring. Now he's coaching with the Titans. There was an article on him during the preseason and how he has adjusted well..

randomk1 said:

Meh....the dude made over a million. If he's not ******ed then that is a lot of money.

Get your **** together man.

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That’s not a lot of money dude. Did you take into account agent fees and taxes? He’s also young so that money will run out even if your smart with it.

Patsfanin Philly said:

I was thinking of Tyrone McKenzie, 3rd round Pats pick in 09 (?) Looked good in rookie minicamp and tore up his knee. Was never the same and bounced around w a few teams before retiring. Now he's coaching with the Titans. There was an article on him during the preseason and how he has adjusted well..

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We had an argument over him in an earlier thread.

TheRainMaker said:

That’s not a lot of money dude. Did you take into account agent fees and taxes? He’s also young so that money will run out even if your smart with it.

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I'm not saying retire. As long as he doesn't have Adrian Peterson as an advisor i think he should do allright, no?

TheRainMaker said:

That’s not a lot of money dude. Did you take into account agent fees and taxes? He’s also young so that money will run out even if your smart with it.

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Plus, as others have mentioned, his injury rehab attempts can't have been cheap.

dreighver said:

If internalizing those conclusions was that easy I'm sure he already would have done so.

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Oh absolutely.

At no point did I say it is easy or fully under his control. Eventually he will get out of it and move on. As you have said.. logic is never the answer to emotion.

dreighver said:

I've dealt with a similar struggle in my pursuit of aviation, which was halted when I couldn't obtain a medical certificate from the FAA (which is required to fly beyond basic training).

I knew there were other means to find purpose and meaning in life at a rational, cognitive level, but I couldn't emotionally internalize those conclusions and reach a state of contentedness. The aviation thing haunted me for a solid 2-3 years before I really moved on.

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I mean that without any snark, sarcasm or anything: good to hear and great for you to move past that.

Elijah said:

Plus, as others have mentioned, his injury rehab attempts can't have been cheap.

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Maybe someone else knows better but one would think that if you have to retire because of an injury that happened on the field or practice field then the league (or the team ?) would cover the costs associated with rehab work for that.

I get that you have to have a certain amount of accrued seasons to get a pension and whatnot but we are talking about injuries suffered during practice/games.

Patstastic said:

Pats should give him a job in the organization.

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I agree.

This is the type of situation they should step in and help him find another road in football.

You can't preach family and ignore this one.

shmessy said:

Hey with Ken, I'm sure it came from a good place and he meant well. He's good people.

RandomK, on the other hand ...........

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It came from a VERY good place.

I GET that he's depressed, and that depression is a real thing. But if/when he get help, what I offered is exactly what he needs to do (along with whatever medication they prescribe). Everyone goes through a depressive period at one time or another. I know I have, but that's another story. But I also know that you have to take steps to get back to normal. It's not simply, depressed today and not tomorrow. But the FIRST step is the hardest.

Finding a purpose. A reason to get up in the morning. IMHO the easiest way to find that purpose is giving to others. Anyone who has can't tell me what an uplifting feeling that can be. So when I tell him to go coach, scout, or something to do with football. Coaching is a great way to give back if you love football.....and they PAY you to do it.

To someone who is in a dark place and suffered a devastating loss things like, perspective, common sense, rationality no longer matter. This kid KNOWS what he needs to do. But right now he can't seem to do it. That is what depression does. It's kind of insidious. So if I left readers with the sense that ALL he needs to do is "get off his sorry ass". Well that's poor writing by me.

But he DOES need to take that first step. AND that step involves finding a purpose. That should be easy for him. He and his partner put together a clip that pulled at our heart strings. In seven minutes he created a moment that moved people. Not everyone can do that. It would be a whole different and uplifting thing if they could do that for SOMEONE else, who is on the ropes.

That, writing a children's book about the pain of loss, or simply go back to football in one of the many areas that don't involve playing. All of these are things he is CAPABLE of doing, and in that he is lucky to have such a wide variety of outlets. Most people don't.

Like others have written, the very fact he is admitting to the problem sounds like a good first step, but it needs to be followed up with the next thing, whatever that is.

shmessy said:

I saw THIS a couple of weeks ago and was going to create a thread on it, but was too sad for him to do it.

He seems such a good kid and he was a model player the one year here. I remember the many visits he made to schools promoting reading and how he had joined an all-middle aged women's book club while he was a student at Georgia.

Why do bad things have to happen to such good people sometimes

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We never know what “good and bad things” are until years later.

I got fired from a job at age 43. I had done very well and was moving up quickly financially.

I was out of work for a year and finally landed another job. Today I’m compensated almost 3 times the amount that company paid me

But the best thing that ever happened to me was getting fired at age 29. I also admitted I was an addict and alcoholic shortly after.

I’ve been clean and sober almost 30 years now. I was super depressed for months after being fired.

But today, I know it was by far the best day of my life

Don’t feel bad for Malcom, he’ll be ok. He’s a very smart young man

luuked said:

Maybe someone else knows better but one would think that if you have to retire because of an injury that happened on the field or practice field then the league (or the team ?) would cover the costs associated with rehab work for that.

I get that you have to have a certain amount of accrued seasons to get a pension and whatnot but we are talking about injuries suffered during practice/games.

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I'm not so optimistic about whether such a system exists.

Man, I hope he finds the help he needs or something to give him purpose.

I will never forget his clutch 2nd half in Houston.

Best thing he can do is find his new identity, and build a brand in the process. His local game could certainly jumpstart some sort of venture like that. And it may help him redefine himself.

Big fan of Mitchell. Wish we could all just keep buying his jerseys and he'd get money for it lol.

He should get together with Danario Alexander and shoot the breeze..

I'll never forget the critical plays Mitchell made in the greatest super bowl ever played. He made it.

I can totally understand how he feels from a personal experience, i have an illness which basically stopped me from being able to compete at my sport at a national level when i was 13/14 and still have it today at 22. I went through years to try and accept that i just have to leave that old life behind and look forward to the future, it is one of the hardest things to accept especially when its taken out of your hands and you have no control over it. I still struggle at times with it and it really sometimes gets to me. I really hope he manages to come through this and find another purpose that he loves, maybe his books will help him get through it. Whatever it may be i really hope he's okay. He will succeed i feel no matter what he chooses. I hope the NFLPA are helping him in some way.

randomk1 said:

Meh....the dude made over a million. If he's not ******ed then that is a lot of money.

Get your **** together man.

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Most pathetic comment i've read. Imagine having the one thing you worked your entire life for and not being able to do it, because its been taken out of your control, that you cannot do anything about.

He should be a teacher and get into coaching at the high school level. Kids need good role models

TheRainMaker said:

We had an argument over him in an earlier thread.

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I missed it. I hate it when work gets in the way of my Pats obsession. What was the gist of the argument? or do have a link?

He delivered a commencement speech for a small college and if I recall it was excellent.
He has other talents and may just need a mentor to help him use them.