Malcolm Mitchell is not in a good place right now...

Malcolm seems like a guy who has a lot going for him. Grieving is normal and takes time - he loved football. I bet he will come out the other end just fine.

luuked said:

His head was always in the right place and once he gets to the point where he stops catastrophizing the loss of football he will go on to do great things. **** happens to people in life.. some get devastating health news, lose a partner or a child.. others have to live through earthquakes or tsunamis.. none of it is fair.

He already did publish that one book (Magic Hat ?) and if memory serves right a second one is coming in 2020.

He just needs to realise that getting out of pro sports is not the end of his life but just the beginning of the rest of it.

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If internalizing those conclusions was that easy I'm sure he already would have done so.

It's one thing to reach rational conclusions. It's a whole 'nother beast to internalize those conclusions at an emotional level.

I've dealt with a similar struggle in my pursuit of aviation, which was halted when I couldn't obtain a medical certificate from the FAA (which is required to fly beyond basic training).

I knew there were other means to find purpose and meaning in life at a rational, cognitive level, but I couldn't emotionally internalize those conclusions and reach a state of contentedness. The aviation thing haunted me for a solid 2-3 years before I really moved on.

Pats should give him a job in the organization.

Patstastic said:

Pats should give him a job in the organization.

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I was coming it to make that point. He could, and probably will, end up coaching at some point. He had a good mind for the game. But he’s struggling with losing the ability to play at the top level. At least he went out - making some absolutely clutch grabs in the biggest comeback of all time of the biggest game on the planet.

randomk1 said:

Depends on your point of view i guess. I have a friend with cerebral palsy yet he enjoys life to the max. Goes skydiving,traveling etc. Does Mitchell want to talk to him about getting a ****ty deal?

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That’s not how depression works. Hell the Rock was depressed.

randomk1 said:

Depends on your point of view i guess. I have a friend with cerebral palsy yet he enjoys life to the max. Goes skydiving,traveling etc. Does Mitchell want to talk to him about getting a ****ty deal?

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It's not a pi$$ing contest.

Mercy and compassion for someone having difficulties isn't a competition. Grow the eff up.

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KontradictioN said:

I was coming it to make that point. He could, and probably will, end up coaching at some point. He had a good mind for the game. But he’s struggling with losing the ability to play at the top level. At least he went out - making some absolutely clutch grabs in the biggest comeback of all time of the biggest game on the planet.

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MM still remains the only rookie to catch a pass from Tom Brady in a SB...and he made 5 of them in the most amazing 4th quarter in SB history.

Regards,
Chris

Brady_to_Moss said:

A house and the money he spent on medical to get back on the field....a million dollars is nothing...

Telling someone who's depressed or lost to just "get it together" is so simple minded. Never had depression or anxiety? I was lost after my father suddenly passed when I was 24. He was my best friend. But I guess I should have just gotten my **** together and the years of depression would have just vanished!

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It's 2019 and human knowledge has come a long way, but there's still a lot of ignorance out there.

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I slept at a Holiday Inn the other night so I know exactly what he needs to do.

1. Get off his sorry ass and think of something productive to do with his time instead of making sad short movie clips no matter how good they are.

2. Write another children's book about a kid who has to overcome a devastating loss.

3. He was a 4th round pick and was with the club 2 years, so it's safe to say that he made a million dollars or more over that time. That's not counting any money from endorsements and book sales.

OK to take a few months to wallow in self pity. That's natural and you can afford it. But that time is up. Let this clip be your "rock bottom". And a lot of people DO have it worse. Much worse. So if you want to have a purpose, go to the Bahamas and work with their recovery. Be a Big Brother, etc.

4. You can't PLAY anymore, that doesn't mean you can't be around football in other ways. Help coach the local HS. They'd be glad to have you. Call Bill and ask him if you can come back next spring and work with the WR's Call Bill and see if they can use you as a local scout and get the training to do the job.

A good life is all about having a purpose. You are too smart not to seek one out.

patfanken said:

I slept at a Holiday Inn the other night so I know exactly what he needs to do.

1. Get off his sorry ass and think of something productive to do with his time instead of making sad short movie clips no matter how good they are.

2. Write another children's book about a kid who has to overcome a devastating loss.

3. He was a 4th round pick and was with the club 2 years, so it's safe to say that he made a million dollars or more over that time. That's not counting any money from endorsements and book sales.

OK to take a few months to wallow in self pity. That's natural and you can afford it. But that time is up. Let this clip be your "rock bottom". And a lot of people DO have it worse. Much worse. So if you want to have a purpose, go to the Bahamas and work with their recovery. Be a Big Brother, etc.

4. You can't PLAY anymore, that doesn't mean you can't be around football in other ways. Help coach the local HS. They'd be glad to have you. Call Bill and ask him if you can come back next spring and work with the WR's Call Bill and see if they can use you as a local scout and get the training to do the job.

A good life is all about having a purpose. You are too smart not to seek one out.

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Ken, this is all stuff he was doing before - - this IS a guy who thought outside the box and joined a middle aged women's book club, pulled himself up by the bootstraps in college and faced his reading problem head on, then took his experience to help children.

It's not as if he's biatching and threatening to drop everything because his ****ing helmet is not fitting perfectly.

He's obviously experiencing depression. It's not the 1950's where you tell him to just "Put on a happy face". He's struggling and this is obviously a call for help. I hope someone who can do so hears it........

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There's a study I heard about, might be apocryphal but I think the basis and results are pretty sound.

The idea was to study the impact of responsibility on life expectancy. A number of people in a retirement home were given plants and asked to care for them for 6 months and then the people running the study noted that the people caring for plants died at a lower rate than the people not caring for plants.

Study ends, plants are removed and it was noted that the people who had been caring for plants and now weren't were dying at a much higher rate than the people who never had a plant to care for in the first place.

Point being loss is a tremendous thing to deal with and the greater the thing you've lost the harder it is to overcome. We're talking about a young man who achieved football stardom and had contributed to winning a super bowl title and clearly felt he had a decade of it ahead of him. And them some dumbass TE for your own team blows out your knee in preseason and it call comes crashing down.

If you can't feel sympathy for that guy despite the NFL-sized paychecks he got then you probably have significant empathy issues.

If it’s any consolation for him, hopefully he realizes that we Pats fans haven’t forgotten his time here, albeit was a short.

That’s something he can be grateful for. He made it to the highest level, and accomplished something special while being there.

patfanken said:

1. Get off his sorry ass and think of something productive to do

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I really like and respect you but seriously Ken, **** off.

shmessy said:

It's 2019 and human knowledge has come a long way, but there's still a lot of ignorance out there.

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The more we learn, the less we know.

patfanken said:

I slept at a Holiday Inn the other night so I know exactly what he needs to do.

1. Get off his sorry ass and think of something productive to do with his time instead of making sad short movie clips no matter how good they are.

2. Write another children's book about a kid who has to overcome a devastating loss.

3. He was a 4th round pick and was with the club 2 years, so it's safe to say that he made a million dollars or more over that time. That's not counting any money from endorsements and book sales.

OK to take a few months to wallow in self pity. That's natural and you can afford it. But that time is up. Let this clip be your "rock bottom". And a lot of people DO have it worse. Much worse. So if you want to have a purpose, go to the Bahamas and work with their recovery. Be a Big Brother, etc.

4. You can't PLAY anymore, that doesn't mean you can't be around football in other ways. Help coach the local HS. They'd be glad to have you. Call Bill and ask him if you can come back next spring and work with the WR's Call Bill and see if they can use you as a local scout and get the training to do the job.

A good life is all about having a purpose. You are too smart not to seek one out.

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Or we can hold a candlelight vigil for him. Feeling sorry for him is the way to go.

Seriously he should get into coaching if his passion for the game is still so strong.

fnordcircle said:

I really like and respect you but seriously Ken, **** off.

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Hey with Ken, I'm sure it came from a good place and he meant well. He's good people.

RandomK, on the other hand ...........

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randomk1 said:

Or we can hold a candlelight vigil for him. Feeling sorry for him is the way to go.

Seriously he should get into coaching if his passion for the game is still so strong.

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You should've quit 3 posts ago, dude.

Give it a rest.

Feel terrible for MM. He fought through so much to get to where he was and his career looked so promising when he walked off that field after the Super Bowl. To then see it all fall apart just a handful of months later must be brutal to deal with. To lose what you love to do plus all the fame and riches must be incredibly difficult. His plight is clearly not nearly as bad as many others but that does not mean it is necessarily easy.

randomk1 said:

Meh....the dude made over a million. If he's not ******ed then that is a lot of money.

Get your **** together man.

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Maybe he thinks life has more to offer than money. Second, what kind of person uses the word "******ed" in describing someone's character?

Pat the Pats Fan said:

I have a friend that is an UGA graduate. He even had a bulldog named UGA. I used to give him a raft of crap about Georgia players, especially with the string of luck the Pats have had with Georgia players going back to Robert Edwards. But it was always in a kidding manner.
Now, after the past few months, I really feel bad for these young men.
Mitchell hurt and forced into retirement and he doesn't appear ready for it. Michel hurt early last year and missed some time. Wynn missed the year on IR. And now Andrews on IR. Mitchell and Andrews really worry me. Malcolm because he seems to be falling into a hole of depression and Bear because blood clots are life threatening. I hope that Malcolm can move on, he seemed like he could, but now....I just don't know.

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Still better luck than some (most?) of the UFlorida draftees....
Duke Dawson
Dominique Easley
Brandon Spikes
Jon Halapio
A. Hernandez
Chad Jackson
Jeremy Mincey
Guss Scott
Tony George
( last 2 were both 3rd round picks!!) 'nuf said