Antonio Brown

SBLIII said:

I get that just don't consider it likely.

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How likely did you consider it that Brady would be suspended and the team have picks stolen for balls obeying the laws of thermodynamics within the margin of error?

The Brady Precedent;" I, Roger Stokoe Badsmell, can and will do anything I wish whenever the whimsy strikes me to anyone or thing I wish...ARTICLE 46!!!!! Thank you Denny Chin Ho and my TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS of sucker fans money!"

This league is a joke.Period

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a.) I think the league did the right thing here for once. It sets a precedence that prevents accusers from taking players off the field until an investigation takes place. If the NFL had put Brown on the exempt list prior to interviewing Taylor or his "ex-step Daddy" Moss, it could create a scenario in which someone accuses a player for something to remove said player from the field for a big game.

b.) I still expect the possibility of Brown being placed on the exempt list next week depending on how credible Taylor appears to be and if they decide to take ex-step-daddy Moss' words seriously...or if any of Brown's baby Mamas say something. There's a lot of turmoil in Brown's life.....we have only had him as a Patriot for 4 days now and uncovered a lot of stuff we never knew about (e.g. we knew about the furniture thing, speeding, frost bitten foot, helmet issue, live streaming his coach, recording his coach, and etc.. BUT the rest? All new to me).

c.) At the end of the day, I am happy the Pats signed Brown. Even if it doesn't work out, it was a good move to remove him from the FA pool. A player of his stature shifts the balance of power in the AFC.

d.) I think he will have a HUGE game in Miami....it's his back yard..and he hasn't played since late December.

I was reading her lawsuit. She claims on may 20 that brown threw her in a mattress and raped her. She was screaming no. If any of those videos are after may 20 she has no case. That’s some serious accusation.

Joker said:

The Brady Precedent;" I, Roger Stokoe Badsmell, can and will do anything I wish whenever the whimsy strikes me to anyone or thing I wish...ARTICLE 46!!!!! Thank you Denny Chin Ho and my TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS of sucker fans money!"

This league is a joke.Period

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Denny Chin: Evidence that my as$ is my elbow is compelling, if not overwhelming

upstater1 said:

I just understand his texts in a different way than you. It seems to me he's taunting her. I wonder why he would taunt her if it was consensual. If I were to speculate, it happened, and he is making fun of her for complaining. Doesn't mean he raped her. But he's certainly taunting her.

I've repeatedly said that the claims of having a letter from him promising no more sexual advances is both crazy and stupid on his part. Think about signing a letter like that. Dumb.

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(Edit: Sorry, as you can see I have never had the talent for conciseness.)

The first reference in the texts to jacking on her back doesn't make sense as a taunt. Both texts are about how angry he is that she's trying to extort him, angrily talking about how she and her mom should pick an easier mark next time, and so on.

The first part of the text to me read like, "We were intimate, we did all these things, I can't believe you're extorting me." For example, an analogous text might read, "We walked along the river holding hands! We had romantic dinners by candlelight! We were sleeping together! How could you sleep with my best friend and say we were just friends?"

To read the first part as a taunt doesn't jive with the second sentence, "slept with u n bed!" AB is saying "we were really intimate. We slept together in bed. I jacked off on your back."

The reference to "jacking off on her back" could easily just mean they were doing doggy and he unloaded on her back at the end instead of inside her.

Now look at the second reference to jacking off on her back in the second text. me n (redacted) a laugh about this **** me busing on your back!" He calls it "this ****." Let's say he did jack off on her back, but only in the context of finishing after doggy style. So to AB, the fact she's making up some ridiculous story about him masturbating and finishing on her while watching a religious video sets him off. That's why he calls it "this ****" and the story's so stupid that he and his friend(s) are laughing about it.

Now to me that's an easily plausible explanation. Both stories are going to be unprovable.

Regardless, the original interpretation doesn't make sense to me, because he's clearly saying, "we slept together in bed, we were intimate, I can't believe you're coming up with this extortion garbage and texting my team, etc." Wouldn't follow logically to frame an argument, "(<TAUNT>) (<EVIDENCE OF INTIMACY>, <HOW COULD YOU DO THIS>"

haha I pulled the chair out from under you when you were sitting down! We were intimate in bed, so I can't believe you're pulling all this!"

Instead, to me he's clearly doing,
EXAMPLE OF INTIMACY (jacking off on her back after doggy)
EXAMPLE OF INTIMACY (we slept together in bed)
then following with, "WE WERE REALLY INTIMATE, HOW CAN YOU BE TREATING ME LIKE THIS."

dreighver said:

Of course women lie. Everyone, from every walk of life, lies.

The point is that when someone tells us something, we should listen, take them seriously, and not immediately question their credibility and character. This goes for both the accused and the accuser.

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Should we take the accuser seriously? Yes.
Should we punish the accused based on the fact that right now, we have nothing more than an accusation? No.

BelichicksHoodie said:

I don’t get it?

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Making light of Kraft's defense of surpressing the video evidence.

upstater1 said:

I've repeatedly said that the claims of having a letter from him promising no more sexual advances is both crazy and stupid on his part. Think about signing a letter like that. Dumb.

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I was really curious about this "letter" AB signed, since that would be the only evidence I've seen so far that supports her story. Everything else, like her gym, asking for $1.6 million, the videos, returning to him after a supposed rape, the timing, etc all cast major doubt on her story.

Read the entire lawsuit filed against Antonio Brown | Boston.com

On page 7 of 16, it states, "Ms. Taylor agreed, but on the condition, which is reflected in writing, that Brown stop flirting with her anymore."

The only other thing that gives me pause is after the supposed Jacking off on her back incident, it states, "she also confided in Brown's chef, whom she had befriended."

I'd have to see the letter or whatever "reflected in writing" means, but that would be weird and really bad for AB. The chef part is also, since the mother is obviously biased.

Edit: then again, the chef is biased too, per the USA today article: 'Just a problem kid, man': Antonio Brown's troubled past shines light on current situation

"In July, celebrity chef Stefano Tedeschi claimed in a lawsuit Brown owes him $38,521 because Brown failed to pay Tedeschi after he cooked for Brown and the player's guests at the 2018 Pro Bowl."

slash83 said:

Can’t the DA bring charges against him without her consent since she states she was sexually assaulted?

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Technically yes but if she doesn’t cooperate with the DA, he literally has nothing upon which to base his prosecution.

vuudu said:

Brown's intelligence is no more than the average preteen. . IMO, the reason he gets into the stupid issues is because he is just dumb. Watch hard knocks, the part where he was getting details on the hot air balloon. He asked a question that was so dumb and ignorant about basic physical properties. I don’t think he’s really that bad of a guy, he’s just really dumb. He can play football though and he can read defenses so I not worried about his connection with Brady.

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I mean if you think he has the average intelligence of a preteen you should check out some of the people posting in the big AB thread and their "amazing" leaps of logic and straw men arguments.

In the end he doesn't need to win any math olympics or debates but catch footballs.

Well, to be fair, it's been my experience that you can find an idiot...



...pretty much anywhere.

robertweathers said:

Yep.

I'm so done with the AB news but angry about it at the same time. Rather than battle with fellow Patsfans on the topic I go to Chiefs Planet.

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BTW - - happy birthday, Dude!

oldrover said:

Well, to be fair, it's been my experience that you can find an idiot...

...pretty much anywhere.

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Most people are idiots.

oldrover said:

Well, to be fair, it's been my experience that you can find an idiot...

...pretty much anywhere.

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That's a slippery slope girl.

QuantumMechanic said:

And they would likely lose under the Brady precedent. See McCann’s piece on si.com from this morning.

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It's not precedent if the NFLPA eventually takes the Brown case to a district court in another circuit.

TomPatriot said:

It's not precedent if the NFLPA eventually takes the Brown case to a district court in another circuit.

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True. But good luck beating the NFL to court, since the NFL knows when it's going to release the arbitrator's decision and can file a lawsuit to uphold the decision the second the decision is released and before the player's legal team can react, just like the NFL did in the Brady case, pinning it in the 2nd Circuit.

And even if a suit manages to get filed in another circuit, while the CA2 decision isn't binding precedent, it is precedent, and other circuits may view it as convincing.

Yep. A New York pitcher

pmb116 said:

Cumback Player of the Year?





Too soon?

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Came too soon?

patsinthesnow said:

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Mike Tannenbaum made a twitter post a couple days ago that Brown could continue to play because it was a civil law suit.

This is just a guess.... but with Tannenbaums statement I wonder if that is in the CBA.