Antonio Brown

QuantumMechanic · Sep 12, 2019

Dr Pain said:
To his credit he was one of the first to see something was up thanks to PalmBeachPatriot

But he still can't admit that Framegate was BS.

Froob · Sep 12, 2019

Bleedthrough said:
Patriots legend Aaron Dobson

*Dropson

Bobsyouruncle · Sep 12, 2019

zydecochris said:
I guess one thing that is most confusing to me is why this particular website, oaklandnewsnow.com, is the only news-type site (at least it looks like one) that has posted the Instagram Videos apart from that ILIKEYOURBEATS guy who originally posted it. Although they definitely don't prove a rape didn't happen, they do seem to indicate that the relationship between Ms. Taylor and A. Brown was not completely professional. It seems like all sorts of news outlets would be jumping on this type of salacious stuff.

Does anyone have an idea for why these videos haven't been referred to on other media outlets? Is it because they are unverified? Or, is there some type of consent law at work?

I admit that I'm not one of those that thinks there is a vast conspiracy among the news outlets to suppress information, as long as that information is likely to draw eyeballs and clicks (i.e., $$$).

Any major news organization that points out the videos and their inconsistency of her story with them will be accused of being rape apologists, blaming the victim, etc. It’s simply the culture we live in.

jah · Sep 12, 2019

#17? Are you serious? I'm out

RobertWeathers · Sep 12, 2019

Fatmancryin said:

Just win baby and let the wheels of justice turn

Keyser Söze · Sep 12, 2019

I think he would have looked a lot better wearing #82

BadMoFo · Sep 12, 2019

No one gave him the memo about No. 17, but maybe he can change the curse of Chad Jackson/Taylor Price/Aaron Dobson.

Redman443 · Sep 12, 2019

BadMoFo said:
No one gave him the memo about No. 17, but maybe he can change the curse of Chad Jackson/Taylor Price/Aaron Dobson.

maybe he picked that number because it was cursed. The most AB thing ever

BradyFTW! · Sep 12, 2019

BadMoFo said:
No one gave him the memo about No. 17, but maybe he can change the curse of Chad Jackson/Taylor Price/Aaron Dobson.

tbf none of them were any good. He's already breaking the trend purely by being good at football.

Deus Irae · Sep 12, 2019

Froob said:
I was kidding, nobody here has been against due process lol.

We just want people to not start from the stand point that the women is a liar and work backwards from there and give both sides a fair unbiased look. But alas, tons of confirmation bias on both sides.

If your default is #MeToo, then your default is that you believe the woman, just because she made a claim. That's not wanting to start from a fair and neutral position.

upstater1 · Sep 12, 2019

zydecochris said:
I guess one thing that is most confusing to me is why this particular website, oaklandnewsnow.com, is the only news-type site (at least it looks like one) that has posted the Instagram Videos apart from that ILIKEYOURBEATS guy who originally posted it. Although they definitely don't prove a rape didn't happen, they do seem to indicate that the relationship between Ms. Taylor and A. Brown was not completely professional. It seems like all sorts of news outlets would be jumping on this type of salacious stuff.

Does anyone have an idea for why these videos haven't been referred to on other media outlets? Is it because they are unverified? Or, is there some type of consent law at work?

I admit that I'm not one of those that thinks there is a vast conspiracy among the news outlets to suppress information, as long as that information is likely to draw eyeballs and clicks (i.e., $$$).

Because any conclusion one might draw for them asks for speculation.

Do we have a date for these? If there was a date, you might have more media sources biting on them. But without a date, we can't know if they came before the 1st, 2nd or 3rd incident.

Deus Irae · Sep 12, 2019

Dr Pain said:
Peter King was just on WEEI and he doesn't know either as he was saying he should have just paid the $75k to make go away.

Dear Peter King,

Paying people off doesn't guarantee their silence.

Ring 6 · Sep 12, 2019

mcmurtry86 said:
That’s not uncommon in sexual assault cases. Many victims do not file police reports for a variety of reasons

That’s not to say he is/isn’t guilty of doing something inappropriate. But the lack of the report doesn’t tell us anything in and of itself

How many don’t file police reports than more than a year later file a money grab civil suit?

I don’t think the issue where a women fears embarrassment, retribution, being questioned about telling the truth and just wanting the whole thing to go away applies much to someone who files a civil suit asking for millions and goes public with it.

Bobsyouruncle · Sep 12, 2019

Dr Pain said:
These guys have seen the video and know what is going on here but they don't dare say it for fear of what will happen to them if they question the honesty of a victim of sexual assault. Look at that 2018 article on Jules charges making it seem like he got off because the police couldn't prove beyond a reasonable doubt. There was video there showing what happened, it never happened and the accuser should have been charged. It may be harder proving something didn't happen. In Jules case luckily there were video cameras but he was still arrested till they could review.

All the AB videos here prove is that the paperwork in the case is wrong and the nature of their relationship was distorted in the filing. Unless there is a true smoking gun of someone offering proof she planned this as a shake down, he will always be guilty in most peoples minds because most people just look at the surface (deflategate). In deflategate, most press get that is was just the temperature decline and there was no conspiracy. Few will say it but you see it in the nature of the coverage of Brady.

Yes the Edelman case is an example of how exoneration never really happens from the public after an accusation. In Edelman’s case the accusation from the police report was very specific on what happened, when it happened, and how it happened. So the video could look specifically at the claim (as opposed to just saying it happened off camera). The specific incident the accuser claimed did not happen. Even then the police never charged the accuser with lying.

Edelman and even the Duke cases are rare though. Video evidence or any evidence to exonerate simply doesn’t exist in most cases. I believe with Duke they were able to show through phone records the defendants were not at the house at the time the assault was claimed to be taking place.

But most cases have two people who had sex but one claiming it’s consensual and the other not. There’s no way to ever definitively prove what happened. That’s what will happen here. AB will always be a rapist to many people, and even if the lawsuit is thrown out there’s no way to ever prove what happened.

203Pat · Sep 12, 2019

Looks like they got him shoulder pads that fit as well. Looks like it may be yesterdays illegal helmet though.

BadMoFo · Sep 12, 2019

Redman443 said:
maybe he picked that number because it was cursed. The most AB thing ever

Better yet since he came in cursed, maybe the Curse of AB + the Curse of 17 = the Curses cancel each other out.

Betterthanmost · Sep 12, 2019

Froob said:
Yikes. Bad number.

Why? It is never about the number, but about production. AB the football player is a baller.
He comes across as a horrible person based on how he treats people but he is a baller. That there is no question. Have you seen some of his seperations off the line? This will be sick if it works on the field.

Deus Irae · Sep 12, 2019

203Pat said:
Yes lets go down this path again. An aging, post injury, Pro Bowler who's production was declining in the two seasons prior to his injury plays relatively well against guys who were cut 2 days later. He looked solid but he wasn't exactly running away from anyone. If Bill thought he is half as good as some on this forum think he is then he wouldn't have traded him for a late round pick (to the Jets of all teams).

We don't know the "why" of the trade. I find it amusing as hell that, according to your logic, people are not allowed to judge the player based upon his play, but you're allowed to interpret the reasoning behind the trade.

Bobsyouruncle · Sep 12, 2019

Grizzafted said:
I need to chime in here just to say something

I don't know if AB did this.
The timing is off, it seems more complicated than her lawyer is portraying, that's for sure.
False accusations happen. I'm a journalist, so I always feel like it's good to hold off until you get facts before coming to a judgment on something like this. Due process exists for a reason, and people in my profession have gotten very burned in the recent past for making assumptions without a critical mind and patience.

BUT

I know a woman who was raped a few years ago, but not just one but two men. She was 20, they were in their mid-20s. She was blackout drunk, she'd been drinking around a campfire with a bunch of people and had too many. The two of them visited her in her tent later that night and took turns with her.

The first - first thing she did when she woke up, was go to the police. She had a rape kit done, said she wanted to press charges. This is within hours of her realizing what had happened the night before.

And she was told, that because she'd been drinking with them earlier that she'd never win the case and it wasn't worth the time to go through the criminal avenue. They advised her to move on.

There are tons of reasons why women don't go to police right after an assault, not the least of which is because they are often completely f*cking useless.

Let's try to move on from the insinuation that there being no criminal complaint against AB made by this woman is a sign that she's lying or extorting him. She may well be, but the fact that she didn't go to the police is NOT evidence of that being the case.

Do you know these things as in you were there when she spoke to the police? Or do you actually just know what she told you?

Keyser Söze · Sep 12, 2019

Antonio Brown

Burn it all down!

Independent Investigator & pliable af

Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

Degeneracy Expert

Member of the Seattle 7 & Roadie for Metallica

In the Starting Line-Up

Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

In the Starting Line-Up

Goodell sucks

PatsFans.com Retired Jersey Club

Hall of Fame Poster

PatsFans.com Retired Jersey Club

PatsFans.com Supporter

Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

Pro Bowl Player

Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

PatsFans.com Retired Jersey Club

Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

In the Starting Line-Up

Similar threads