Antonio Brown

AndyJohnson said:

If morality isn’t inherent then it would never be exhibited.
Your argument is that morality doesn’t exist in animals (humans included) until it’s learned. Learned from whom? If it’s not inherent in humans then where did they get it from.
Morality is secondary to survival instinct. The wolf doesn’t attack because he likes to, he attacks to survive. Domesticated animals are not limited to survival instincts because they feel safety. Humans raise morality to another level because they have the intellect to understand acting morally is best for all.

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Your argument is that living things only act immorally because they have to (i.e., survival)? One only needs to read the news poorly on a semi-daily basis to realize that living things (especially humans) act immorally when under no physical threat, all the time.

I can assure you that if morality was as instinctual as eating, the world would be a much better place and we wouldn't have robust philosophical and religious texts attempting to teach people how to behave morally.

If morality is a survival instinct, what then is the reason why so many living things act in a way that would be deemed immoral, very often? Why are there different philosophical and religious texts that posit different versions of morality?

Why do we have to discipline children? Why do we teach children certain values and principles as they grow up? If these traits were inherent, all we'd need to do is provide their basic survival needs and they're automatically behave morally, and yet this is not the case.

Kenneth Sims said:

If I, being a Christian, tried to make my points as vigorously as you’ve tried to make your points in this thread, I’d be accused of shoving my “religion “ down everyone ‘s throat. And, That criticism would be rightfully deserved as this is a football forum and not a platform to debate whether there’s a deity or not. At least, I have a heaven to look forward to whether it exists or not while you only look forward to decaying back to the primordial ooze from which you came.

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Bending over backwards to assert that disagreement is valid doesn't really suggest I'm doing anything vigorously.

You're condemning me based on my differing beliefs, which I certainly haven't done to anyone in this thread. I wasn't the one who brought up morality in the first place, by the way.

AndyJohnson said:

Then it’s brain chemistry includes morality.

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Okie dokie.

Ice_Ice_Brady said:

shalise manza young (@shalisemyoung) on Twitter

Wow - I always thought this was more of an exaggeration. Like no one is actually as irrational as anti-feminists make them out to be. SMY proves this theory wrong. Can you be any more of a militant, anti-fact, SJW than this?



Wtf?

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Wth is wrong with SMY. Ed said nothing wrong. Now "innocent until proven guilty" is something that you get yelled at?

Kenneth Sims said:

If I, being a Christian, tried to make my points as vigorously as you’ve tried to make your points in this thread, I’d be accused of shoving my “religion “ down everyone ‘s throat. And, That criticism would be rightfully deserved as this is a football forum and not a platform to debate whether there’s a deity or not. At least, I have a heaven to look forward to whether it exists or not while you only look forward to decaying back to the primordial ooze from which you came.

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Say what?

how about the morality debate go private? Football thread..right?

Galeb said:

It can. Behavior can dictate brain chemistry. You assumption that it is a one way street has been scientifically disproven countless times.

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Brain chemistry ultimately dictates behavior in organisms that possess developed brains. It comes first, followed by an action or thought.

sambam94 said:

how about the morality debate go private? Football thread..right?

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I agree. I tried to set it aside hours ago.

Biffins said:

Bill sounds pissed!!! I love it!

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The ending of that conference was ridiculous. A guy asks a question, Bill answers, and then another tool asks the exact same one which he says “I already answered that question” and the guy didn’t like it and goes “But you didn’t” and then Bill goes “Actually I did” and then the media guy cuts it off there.

The other “journalist” was really pushy too in the middle. Did they honestly think he was going to say anything????

Ice_Ice_Brady said:

As an agnostic, I can appreciate this post. I feel like existential atheism takes at least as much of a leap of faith, ironically, to conclude that life has no meaning, there is no higher power, afterlife, etc, than any religion.

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No tangible evidence exists for those things at this point in time, so I disagree. I think meaning is created subjectively, by the way.

Biffins said:

Yeah well Drew's career is on the line as well now. What else will he say?

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EDIT: Apologies Biffins I misread your post

At this point, we've really determined that no one is going to change anyone else's mind on this subject. I'm all for moving on from it.

Why is there a long discussion about the meaning of life in the Antonio Brown sex assault thread? Lol

Threads often go into tangents, but this is one for the ages.

aluminum seats said:

OK, help me out here...what’s with the 180?

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leave me the fk alone. I am not bothering you.

NashuaPats said:

Why is there a long discussion about the meaning of life in the Antonio Brown sex assault thread? Lol

Threads often go into tangents, but this is one for the ages.

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The human race could live forever—if we can make it through the next 100 years

sambam94 said:

how about the morality debate go private? Football thread..right?

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That would be nice. I’m looking for discussion on this matter and updates not the morality discussion that is taking over.

Ladypatsfan said:

leave me the fk alone. I am not bothering you.

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Wow. Way to represent women.

NashuaPats said:

Why is there a long discussion about the meaning of life in the Antonio Brown sex assault thread? Lol

Threads often go into tangents, but this is one for the ages.

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Yea, it’s quite annoying.

Uh...anyone?...can I have your liver???

MoreBellhorn said:

Yea, it’s quite annoying.

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I swear I didn't mean for it to continue this long! Lol