2019 Roster Turnover

Urgent said:

The Patriots had the largest amount of roster turnover in a long time with 23 new players, compared to Labor Day weekend 2018. That doesn't count players on suspensions like Watson and Kendricks, or players on NFI or short-term IR like Harry or Meredith.

23 is a lot of a 53 man roster, and the most since I looked back five or six years. The 2018 Patriots had 14 new players on their Labor Day roster. But other years have seen 20 or 21 new players as well. The Patriots really turn over the roster each year.

Let's look at some of the changes:

QB
In: Jarrett Stidham
Out: Brian Hoyer

RB
In: Damien Harris, Brandon Bolden
Out: Jeremy Hill

WR
In: Josh Gordon, Demaryius Thomas, Jakobi Meyers, Gunner Olszewski
Out: Chris Hogan, Cordarrelle Patterson, Riley McCaron, Chad Hanson

TE
In: Matt LaCosse, Ryan Izzo
Out: Rob Gronkowski, Dwayne Allen, Jacob Hollister

OL
In: Isaiah Wynn, Korey Cunningham, Jermaine Eluemunor, Russell Bodine
Out: Trent Brown, LaAdrian Waddle, David Andrews, Brian Schwenke

DL
In: Byron Cowart, Michael Bennet
Out: Malcom Brown, Trey Flowers, Adrian Clayborne

Edge/LB
In: Chase Winovich, John Simon, Jamie Collins, Shalique Calhoun
Out: Derek Rivers, Keionte Davis, Nicholas Grigsby, Geneo Grissom

CB
In: Joejuan Williams
Out: Eric Rowe, Keion Crossen, Duke Dawson

Safety
In: Terrence Brooks, Obi Melofonwu
Out: Brandon King

Punter
In: Jake Bailey
Out: Ryan Allen

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Urgent said:

The Patriots had the largest amount of roster turnover in a long time with 23 new players, compared to Labor Day weekend 2018. That doesn't count players on suspensions like Watson and Kendricks, or players on NFI or short-term IR like Harry or Meredith.

23 is a lot of a 53 man roster, and the most since I looked back five or six years. The 2018 Patriots had 14 new players on their Labor Day roster. But other years have seen 20 or 21 new players as well. The Patriots really turn over the roster each year.

Let's look at some of the changes:

QB
In: Jarrett Stidham
Out: Brian Hoyer

RB
In: Damien Harris, Brandon Bolden
Out: Jeremy Hill

WR
In: Josh Gordon, Demaryius Thomas, Jakobi Meyers, Gunner Olszewski
Out: Chris Hogan, Cordarrelle Patterson, Riley McCaron, Chad Hanson

TE
In: Matt LaCosse, Ryan Izzo
Out: Rob Gronkowski, Dwayne Allen, Jacob Hollister

OL
In: Isaiah Wynn, Korey Cunningham, Jermaine Eluemunor, Russell Bodine
Out: Trent Brown, LaAdrian Waddle, David Andrews, Brian Schwenke

DL
In: Byron Cowart, Michael Bennet
Out: Malcom Brown, Trey Flowers, Adrian Clayborne

Edge/LB
In: Chase Winovich, John Simon, Jamie Collins, Shalique Calhoun
Out: Derek Rivers, Keionte Davis, Nicholas Grigsby, Geneo Grissom

CB
In: Joejuan Williams
Out: Eric Rowe, Keion Crossen, Duke Dawson

Safety
In: Terrence Brooks, Obi Melofonwu
Out: Brandon King

Punter
In: Jake Bailey
Out: Ryan Allen

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Hyped said:

I agree that 11-5 was a "down year"...but remember the small things like:

a.) Making ONE ST tackle @ Miami.

b.) Brady making one of the dumbest throws of his career @ Pittsburgh.

c.) Looking ahead to the BYE week @Nashville and being uncharacteristically terrible @ Detroit.

The only legit loss was @ Jacksonville...we wilted in the heat down there and got our asses beat. But if you flip any of those 4 games...we are 12-4...the best record in the AFC.

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Urgent said:

The Patriots had the largest amount of roster turnover in a long time with 23 new players, compared to Labor Day weekend 2018. That doesn't count players on suspensions like Watson and Kendricks, or players on NFI or short-term IR like Harry or Meredith.

23 is a lot of a 53 man roster, and the most since I looked back five or six years. The 2018 Patriots had 14 new players on their Labor Day roster. But other years have seen 20 or 21 new players as well. The Patriots really turn over the roster each year.

Let's look at some of the changes:

QB
In: Jarrett Stidham
Out: Brian Hoyer

RB
In: Damien Harris, Brandon Bolden
Out: Jeremy Hill

WR
In: Josh Gordon, Demaryius Thomas, Jakobi Meyers, Gunner Olszewski
Out: Chris Hogan, Cordarrelle Patterson, Riley McCaron, Chad Hanson

TE
In: Matt LaCosse, Ryan Izzo
Out: Rob Gronkowski, Dwayne Allen, Jacob Hollister

OL
In: Isaiah Wynn, Korey Cunningham, Jermaine Eluemunor, Russell Bodine
Out: Trent Brown, LaAdrian Waddle, David Andrews, Brian Schwenke

DL
In: Byron Cowart, Michael Bennet
Out: Malcom Brown, Trey Flowers, Adrian Clayborne

Edge/LB
In: Chase Winovich, John Simon, Jamie Collins, Shalique Calhoun
Out: Derek Rivers, Keionte Davis, Nicholas Grigsby, Geneo Grissom

CB
In: Joejuan Williams
Out: Eric Rowe, Keion Crossen, Duke Dawson

Safety
In: Terrence Brooks, Obi Melofonwu
Out: Brandon King

Punter
In: Jake Bailey
Out: Ryan Allen

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Hyped said:

I agree that 11-5 was a "down year"...but remember the small things like:

a.) Making ONE ST tackle @ Miami.

b.) Brady making one of the dumbest throws of his career @ Pittsburgh.

c.) Looking ahead to the BYE week @Nashville and being uncharacteristically terrible @ Detroit.

The only legit loss was @ Jacksonville...we wilted in the heat down there and got our asses beat. But if you flip any of those 4 games...we are 12-4...the best record in the AFC.

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"You are what your record says you are." ~ Bill Parcells

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Hyped said:

I agree that 11-5 was a "down year"...but remember the small things like:

a.) Making ONE ST tackle @ Miami.

b.) Brady making one of the dumbest throws of his career @ Pittsburgh.

c.) Looking ahead to the BYE week @Nashville and being uncharacteristically terrible @ Detroit.

The only legit loss was @ Jacksonville...we wilted in the heat down there and got our asses beat. But if you flip any of those 4 games...we are 12-4...the best record in the AFC.

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Elijah said:

When you put it this way, you can really see how big the upgrades and downgrades were at certain positions. We look to have gotten much better at WR, EDGE and much worse at TE, OL.

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Pat the Pats Fan said:

Wonder if it’s normal for a Super Bowl champ to turn over 40+% of its roster the following year.

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DarrylS said:

Closely related while out and about yesterday doing errands, overheard on the Radio... "Is K'Neal Harry a bust??" on both local sportstalk radio stations.. WTF so now if a 1st round pick gets hurt in a sport where a lot of folks get hurt, that is the criteria for success or failure of that pick??

Wish someone anyone would try discuss the Pats intelligently instead of trying to "gin up" some faux controversy... Sportstalk used to inform, now it enters into the realm of hysteria...

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Ochmed Jones said:

I am not scared of the 40 percent roster turnover. While I think that is a bit much in any given year, I also think this team needed some new blood.

Outside of gronkowski, flowers and maybe brown, it is hard to see how we are not improved in these other replacements.

The real job ahead is can bb and the coaching staff mesh these guys into a cohesive unit good enough to win a suprbowl?

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1. Center position (Bovine for Andrews) is a possible downgrade
2. WR position (Hogan/Patterson gone, Thomas, Meyers in) may/may not be a downgrade
   
3. TE could be weaker at both TE1 and TE2, not just TE1
4. DT seems thin, so if 2019 Shelton isn't significantly better than 2018 Shelton, the DT position will be a downgrade

Pat the Pats Fan said:

Wonder if it’s normal for a Super Bowl champ to turn over 40+% of its roster the following year.

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captain stone said:

Those that are Out who I wished had stayed In:
- Hoyer, Waddle, Dawson

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Hyped said:

I agree that 11-5 was a "down year"...but remember the small things like:

a.) Making ONE ST tackle @ Miami.

b.) Brady making one of the dumbest throws of his career @ Pittsburgh.

c.) Looking ahead to the BYE week @Nashville and being uncharacteristically terrible @ Detroit.

The only legit loss was @ Jacksonville...we wilted in the heat down there and got our asses beat. But if you flip any of those 4 games...we are 12-4...the best record in the AFC.

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Elijah said:

When you put it this way, you can really see how big the upgrades and downgrades were at certain positions. We look to have gotten much better at WR, EDGE and much worse at TE, OL.

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Pat the Pats Fan said:

Wonder if it’s normal for a Super Bowl champ to turn over 40+% of its roster the following year.

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SBLIII said:

QB - wash
RB - better
WR - better
TE - worse
OL - worse
DL - wash
LB - better
DB - better
ST - wash

3 units remained the same, 4 improved and 2 got worse. Overall this should be a better team than last year. It heavily relies on the health of Gordon though. If he does **** up again, a strength becomes a weakness.

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