Players that you have been wrong about

Ok, it's the beginning of the year and I'm thinking back to all the times that I've been wrong about a guy. Here's are my lists:

Guys that I thought were stiffs that turned out to be good:

1. Jojo Lafell. I thought the guy was the biggest piece of trash in history after his first few games as a Patriot. When I complained to my buddy, he famously said "don't even let him get on the bus to go home. Cut him now."
Turned into a major contributor on a championship team.

2. Cordarell Patterson. When I first started watching him play, I only saw his limitations. Not a great route runner, fell down a lot, hands were average.
Turned out the guy was tough as nails, fought for extra yards with tenacity only seen by maybe Edelman from the wide receiver position, and had big play ability.

3. Marcus Cannon. Honestly I thought he couldn't even play in the league at one point. Has turned himself into a very good football player.

4. (the bad one) Sony Michel.
I was the idiot that said in the game thread that I'd be the first one to say that Michel can't play. I then almost got figuratively lynched by the other members, and rightly so. I observed a lack of explosiveness (he was probably hurt), and a tentativeness that he eventually overcame.
For the record, I could not have been more wrong. He is a great football player. And I think he's going to be even better this year than he was last year.

Guys that I thought would be good that turned out to be stiffs:

1. Dan Klecko.
Always seemed to be around the ball. Was one of the few rookies that got praised early by Belichick. Had hall of fame pedigree. I thought he would be great- he sucked.

2. Ras-I Dowling.
I loved what I saw when I first watched him. Ok, maybe he wasn't a total stiff, just a guy that could not stay on the field. I thought we were getting a pro bowl player for years to come. I was wrong.

3. Aaron Dobson.
Seemed to get great separation when they first drafted him. Seemed to have great talent. Turned into a complete bust.

4. Jermaine Cunningham.
Athletic, big, strong, and seemed to make big plays in big spots. Couldn't even stay in the league.

Chris Canty...I'm still having nightmares

So basically you’re wrong all the time is what you’re saying?

You’re a good contrarian indicator.

I was done with Kevin Faulk early in his career. He seemed to fumble at the worst times. I was slightly wrong.

Adalius Thomas. He was a 3 time All-Pro coming off a 11 sack season and should have been entering the prime of his career.
Instead we got a malcontent troublemaker who was my least favorite Pat in the BB era.

I believed if Dobson was drafted by the Steelers and he stayed healthy, he'd be a top 10 WR.

I thought Zach Sudfeld was going to be the next Rob Gronkowski after he had an amazing pre-season. I thought him and Gronk were going to wreck the league together

I could probably go on for days and will try to add some more as I sober up..

James White- didn’t understand the pick, too small , too slow. First couple of years was “meh”, but boy once he got cooking, look out. Pretty much an all time Patriot now.

I nailed that one... right again.

rogerthat said:

Ok, it's the beginning of the year and I'm thinking back to all the times that I've been wrong about a guy. Here's are my lists:

Guys that I thought were stiffs that turned out to be good:

1. Jojo Lafell. I thought the guy was the biggest piece of trash in history after his first few games as a Patriot. When I complained to my buddy, he famously said "don't even let him get on the bus to go home. Cut him now."
Turned into a major contributor on a championship team.

2. Cordarell Patterson. When I first started watching him play, I only saw his limitations. Not a great route runner, fell down a lot, hands were average.
Turned out the guy was tough as nails, fought for extra yards with tenacity only seen by maybe Edelman from the wide receiver position, and had big play ability.

3. Marcus Cannon. Honestly I thought he couldn't even play in the league at one point. Has turned himself into a very good football player.

4. (the bad one) Sony Michel.
I was the idiot that said in the game thread that I'd be the first one to say that Michel can't play. I then almost got figuratively lynched by the other members, and rightly so. I observed a lack of explosiveness (he was probably hurt), and a tentativeness that he eventually overcame.
For the record, I could not have been more wrong. He is a great football player. And I think he's going to be even better this year than he was last year.

Guys that I thought would be good that turned out to be stiffs:

1. Dan Klecko.
Always seemed to be around the ball. Was one of the few rookies that got praised early by Belichick. Had hall of fame pedigree. I thought he would be great- he sucked.

2. Ras-I Dowling.
I loved what I saw when I first watched him. Ok, maybe he wasn't a total stiff, just a guy that could not stay on the field. I thought we were getting a pro bowl player for years to come. I was wrong.

3. Aaron Dobson.
Seemed to get great separation when they first drafted him. Seemed to have great talent. Turned into a complete bust.

4. Jermaine Cunningham.
Athletic, big, strong, and seemed to make big plays in big spots. Couldn't even stay in the league.

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Yo rookie, if you're going to start a thread about all the times you've been wrong you won't last in the forum. Apparently being always right is the thing. I think there's a rule about it.

Just joking, nice thread.

I thought Aaron Hernandez was a decent human being.. Turned out he was a serial killer. Guess I was wrong

I honestly can't think of anyone in either category because I tend to sit on the fence and take a wait and see approach.

Edit: I questioned if we could ever win a Super Bowl with Brian Hoyer as the backup after we lost to the eagles. I think that was about it.

i have been correct about every single player. i have never been wrong. i am perfect. Kneel before thee.

Solomon Thomas, Derek Rivers, Carlos Henderson, Charles Harris are some BIG misses in general, off the top of my head. All 1st Rd picks, I usually don't miss on those guys.

For the Pats, I wasnt the biggest White fan but hes been so good & improved every year

To echo another poster : I was convinced A Thomas would be amazing here. He has a few moments, but nothing of note. Allen over Zoltan : didn’t get it - worked out for NE.

I remember thinking that they should have drafted the Michigan WR instead of Seymour....

Was a big fan of the Andy Katzemoyer pick

I hated over drafting Matthew Slater, Yada, yada, yada, 12 years later, I guess I was wrong.

I wanted Lawrence Maroney

Guys I was right about:
Ras IR, said he was always hurt, and cried when they drafted Jermaine Cunningham in lieu of Carlos Dunlap.


Sony Michel, I knew he would be great.

Vatahala said:

Adalius Thomas. He was a 3 time All-Pro coming off a 11 sack season and should have been entering the prime of his career.

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He was actually on the wrong side of 30, so he wasn’t exactly in his prime.

He also almost recorded his 3rd sack in Super Bowl 42 before the helmet catch. He was also a big reason opposing TE’s turned into “Casper the Friendly Ghost” during the 2007 season. He had 5 sacks in 2008 before his season ended after 9 games. He was over it in 2009. It unfortunately just didn’t work out.

Some players that I was wrong about?
Markell Carter
Kanorris Davis
Tyrone McKenzie
Adalius Thomas (at the end, not the first year and a half)




On a somewhat similar vein:

Not a fan of Pats moving on from:
Babe Parilli (for Mike Taliaferro?)
Mike Haynes (seriously?)
Nick Buoniconti (got nothing in exchange for Miami super bowls)
Steve McMichael (Cut by Pats; big part of Chicago super bowl)
Jim Cheyunski (the 3-for-3 trade with Buffalo was awful)
Ted Larsen (should have kept him over Nick Kaczur)
Kenny Moore (plenty of long departed bodies that should have been jettisoned before Moore)

Off the top of my head:

I was wrong about:

Seymour: didn’t think he was anything special. Wanted Terrell. So did everyone and their Mom. Lol.

Mankins: my friends laughed me out of the room. I went home angry.

Maroney and Jackson: I was ecstatic they drafted both due to their measurables. However, I thought D’Angelo Williams and Greg Jennings were the safer bets. Both of them have mentioned they are bitter the Pats drafted Maroney and Jackson ahead of them.

Welker: wasn’t excited about giving up a 2nd round pick.

Gronk: I was worried about his back.

McCourty: wanted Dez Bryant.

Darius Butler: I thought he’d be good.

Ninkovich: thought he was trash early on. Didn’t understand why he was still on the team.

Derek Rivers: I cant defend him anymore after going on IR again.

Tom Brady: back in the day we didn’t have access to what we do now. They just signed Bledsoe to $100 million extension, they just signed Friez as a back up and they drafted Michael Bishop. So I thought he wouldn’t even make the team.

Big Bledsoe fan. Couldn't stand Brady. I knew then I didn't know how to evaluate QBs. This bodes well for Stidham.

TheRainMaker said:

Tom Brady: back in the day we didn’t have access to what we do now. They just signed Bledsoe to $100 million extension, they just signed Friesz as a backup and they drafted Michael Bishop.

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I was in the same boat as you.

At the time I was confused and angry that Belichick - a head coach coming off a 5-11 season, three wins fewer than the previous year -would waste a draft pick on a position that had apparently been solidified and set in stone for the next several years, based on the contract extension that kraft had given Bledsoe.

At the time it made no sense at all. It came across as a completely clueless move, considering that the draft pick would be number four on the depth chart.

If anybody was to become the heir apparent it was Michael Bishop.