JOSH GORDON REINSTATED

AndyJohnson said:

Josh Gordon ranked 43rd in the nfl in receiving yards.
28th in yards per game.
63rd in receiving TDs
92nd in receptions.

Excellent?

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Yes, he was excellent since he did what the team needed him to do.

Hey guys,

Happy Saturday. I’m not sure if any of you have heard, but I’ve got some good news..

WR Josh Gordon was reinstated

& Watson
& Thomas (hopefully)

Hopefully he has finally gotten all his demons in check and the Pats & NFLPA have set an appropriate support network for him, as he will be tested about as much as Eric Reid maybe more...

Gordon coming back will take oodles of pressure off of #12 and our oft maligned WR corps will now be a strength...

zoostation said:

You can't be serious. I'm looking around waiting for the laugh track.

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The rumors of Moss being cut was just Florio throwing s* it out there for click bait.

Josh Gordon’s Return A Positive But Complicated Situation For Patriots

Paradoxically suggests greater likelihood of keeping Dorsett or Harris as Josh insurance.

AndyJohnson said:

Maybe the master plan is put Demaryius on PUP and let him get healthy to step in when Gordon gets suspended.

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He’s likely going on PUP regardless, given the timing of the injury last season and the fact that he has yet to get any work in with Brady and we’re about to be into Week 3 of the preseason. Hopefully Gordon doesn’t get suspended and they take a WR corps of Edelman, Harry, Gordon, Thomas (if he rounds back into form), Dorsett, etc back into the playoffs. That might be one of the deepest corps Brady has ever played with. But that assumes health to the top five and it assumes that Gordon won’t slip up again, which I’m not holding my breath on.

shmessy said:

Let's rephrase this, because I think you are honestly looking at this.

Given that this year, Gordon will have 3 weeks of training camp and almost a full year of learning the playbook and the route tree under his belt, how do you expect his performance to be in comparison to last year without all that?

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I am expecting he will start at around an 84, slightly worse than where he left off last year but once we get over the dreaded first four weeks he'll start playing/contributing at a 92-93 level and be "excellent"

Mack Herron said:

Josh Gordon’s Return A Positive But Complicated Situation For Patriots

Paradoxically suggests greater likelihood of keeping Dorsett or Harris as Josh insurance.

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They handle it by letting him handle it. He’s ultimately responsible for his own wellbeing. They drafted Harry to step up and be the guy eventually and he runs the same routes Gordon runs. Harry is essentially a redundancy in place if Gordon ****s up again. So he can sink or swim and if he sinks, it won’t be the potential disaster it was last season. Not even close.

Maybe we need a excellent imoji in the tool bar and not just a thank you and useful ?

A Defiant Goose said:

I am expecting he will start at around an 84, slightly worse than where he left off last year but once we get over the dreaded first four weeks he'll start playing/contributing at a 92-93 level and be "excellent"

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What are you talking about? Madden ranking?

KontradictioN said:

He’s likely going on PUP regardless, given the timing of the injury last season and the fact that he has yet to get any work in with Brady and we’re about to be into Week 3 of the preseason. Hopefully Gordon doesn’t get suspended and they take a WR corps of Edelman, Harry, Gordon, Thomas (if he rounds back into form), Dorsett, etc back into the playoffs. That might be one of the deepest corps Brady has ever played with. But that assumes health to the top five and it assumes that Gordon won’t slip up again, which I’m not holding my breath on.

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IR all WRs who aren't going to make the 53. Pick the two best come Nov.

robertweathers said:

What are you talking about? Madden ranking?

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We were talking about on a scale of 1-100 to more "contextualize" the word excellent to describe his 2018 play. It's a page back or something

shmessy said:

I don't think so.

But the D might quite a bit better.

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The 2019 offensive line and RBs are better and the WRs corps deeper. On paper, only the TE position is worse. I'm not saying the 2019 Pats will score as many points, but do I think it can be better than 2007? Yeah, I do. Certainly I think it will be more balanced.

TommyBrady12 said:

The 2019 offensive line and RBs are better and the WRs corps deeper. On paper, only the TE position is worse. I'm not saying the 2019 Pats will score as many points, but do I think it can be better than 2007? Yeah, I do. Certainly I think it will be more balanced.

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While the potential is there I need to see Wynn play before declaring this years OL better.

AndyJohnson said:

The excellence of play in the field is not influenced by what you earn.

Your value to the team is but when 2 players face up and the one making more money wins 75% of the time the other guy isn’t excellent if he is being paid the minimum salary.

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If that were true Antonio Brown and Julio Jones would have multiple rings.

Were this the uncapped 1970's, you'd be correct. But this is the S-A-L-A-R-Y C-A-P era. There are 53 players on each roster. If one players exceeds his cap hit value, that helps the team immensely and is true excellence.

It is the very definition of BB's "Do Your Job". Each player has a different job/value to meet and exceed. The other key thing he's said at the beginning of the 20 year run, "We are not interested in collecting "talent, but in creating a team". Every man has a JOB on the team to do. At the end of Do Your Job ", he pointedly said "We really should have clarified it as 'Do Your Job WELL'".

What the Pats need Jordan King to do is vastly different than what they need Shaq Mason to do. That's why BB's slogan isn't "Do A Job" or "Do THE Job". It is "Do YOUR Job"

It can't be any clearer than that. In today's cap environment a player's value is how he performs relative to his cap hit. If LeVeon Bell plays just to his cap hit, he brings no extra value to the team versus the financial space he's occupying. Outplaying your cap hit is the true value to the entire team.

It can't be any clearer than that.
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TommyBrady12 said:

The 2019 offensive line and RBs are better and the WRs corps deeper. On paper, only the TE position is worse. I'm not saying the 2019 Pats will score as many points, but do I think it can be better than 2007? Yeah, I do. Certainly I think it will be more balanced.

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There were two 2007 offenses. Before/After Thanksgiving.

Before? No way.

After? Yes

BaconGrundleCandy said:

No sane person is counting on Gordon. Its just great news & immediately makes us a lot better.

Who better for Harry to learn from than Josh? Same goes for Meyers.

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Yeah

What a role model. I hope Harry and Myers don't chill at Josh's after practice.

AndyJohnson said:

You are grading on a curve. “Given the circumstances” I am talking about his play on the field. He was not an excellent WR.
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It's called the salary cap.

And given his space on the Patriots salary cap, his performance last year was freaking BEAUTIFUL. $604,118 cap hit for THAT production?????? Josh Gordon

Dollar for dollar on the team's salary cap space, if 53 men performed like Josh Gordon did last year (and STAY on the field), then the Patriots are going 19-0. His play was excellent value. His off-field problems weren't.

That's the way the NFL world works today. It ain't the uncapped 1970's.

AND the Patriots are well protected this year!


Cap Space=$12,990,353@patscap
$2.025 million is Gordon's salary and cap number. He has no guaranteed money. Therefore, there will not be any dead money IF waived or traded. https://twitter.com/networkdood/status/1162590679874146306 …

NetWorkDood@networkdood
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What will his cap hit be?


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love that we have Harry, Thomas around if Gordon slips. The more talent the better.