8/15 - Thursday Pats/Titans Joint Session Thread

mgteich said:

fair enough

I don't think that Thomas is even in the same category as the players you name. There are Edelman, Thomas and Gordon. When available, the rest are far behind in any depth chart (by the way, I would include Harry).

Are you really saying that you would cut Thomas to keep any of the players below?

I suppose if we were betting the field (the players you name) vs Thomas with regard to season long production, it could be close, but only because of the possibility that Thomas weren't healthy.

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shmessy said:

Between Shillique Calhoun, Obi Melifonwu, Duke Dawson, etc. there are going to be a lot of hard decisions regarding our Mr. Ebner.........

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AndyJohnson said:

Nice. So your approach is to throw insults rather than accept that you were mistaken.

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patfanken said:

if I could interject a thought here. I think you are having an apples to oranges argument here. The way I'm reading it is that you think DT is the better option over JG because past history tells us we never know if or when Gordon will be there. While the other guy is just comparing the WR's athletically.

So here's my question to you. Assuming that when Gordon returns, he will be there the rest of the season, which WR would you rather have. (and I know that is a HUGE assumption, but bear with me)

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mgteich said:

fair enough

I don't think that Thomas is even in the same category as the players you name. There are Edelman, Thomas and Gordon. When available, the rest are far behind in any depth chart (by the way, I would include Harry).

Are you really saying that you would cut Thomas to keep any of the players below?

I suppose if we were betting the field (the players you name) vs Thomas with regard to season long production, it could be close, but only because of the possibility that Thomas weren't healthy.

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203Pat said:

In the end of the day I would still take my chances on Gordon over DT. I feel like the upside for Gordon is much higher. I look at it as I can make a very risky bet and win $100 or make a somewhat safe bet and potentially win $10.

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mgteich said:

Yup. We need a bit of depth beyond the 19 I list, and perhaps a DL role player. The most important function of the rest is ST's

14 COMPETING FOR THE LAST 6 ROSTER SPOTS
DL: Calhoun, Wise, Butler, Kamalu, Cowart, Rivers, Parry
LB: Roberts, Sam
CB: Dawson, Crossen, Melifanwu
ST: King, Ebner
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MY TOP 19
DL: Bennett, Pennel, Guy, Shelton, Simon, Winovich
LB: Van Noy, Hightower, Collins, Bentley
CB: Gilmore, Jackson, McCourty, Jones, Williams
S : McCourty, Chung, Harmon, Brooks

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mgteich said:

OK, You all have convinced me. It is quite possible that we will carry 6 WR's and 2 TE's (for 4 weeks). In that case, there is really little choice with regard to WR's:
Edelman. Thomas, Harry
Myers, Dorsett, Harris

We haven't a clue with regard to who will be fill either of TE roster spots, or even whether they currently are on the team.

There are a lot moving parts. No critical decisions need to be made anytime soon.

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mgteich said:

Yup. We need a bit of depth beyond the 19 I list, and perhaps a DL role player. The most important function of the rest is ST's

14 COMPETING FOR THE LAST 6 ROSTER SPOTS
DL: Calhoun, Wise, Butler, Kamalu, Cowart, Rivers, Parry
LB: Roberts, Sam
CB: Dawson, Crossen, Melifanwu
ST: King, Ebner
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MY TOP 19
DL: Bennett, Pennel, Guy, Shelton, Simon, Winovich
LB: Van Noy, Hightower, Collins, Bentley
CB: Gilmore, Jackson, McCourty, Jones, Williams
S : McCourty, Chung, Harmon, Brooks

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patfanken said:

Top 19? That is a very strong endorsement for Brooks....especially this early. BTW- I expect Brooks to make the final roster, but top 19?.....

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mgteich said:

Every year, we say that we should keep a PR. Every year, Belichick decides that Edelman is our #1 PR. That's just the way it is.

And, no, a backup PR is not worth a roster spot.

Besides, I suspect that there are others who can be backup PR's, Harry for one.

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Froob said:

Safe to assume Tom plays Saturday? Kenneth Simms made a good point to me the other day that Tom is already getting a lot of work in with joint practices, maybe he’d sit again.

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Froob said:

Safe to assume Tom plays Saturday? Kenneth Simms made a good point to me the other day that Tom is already getting a lot of work in with joint practices, maybe he’d sit again.

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TommyD4207 said:

He decides that Edelman is the #1 punt returner, because he's the best punt returner on the team.

Crazy, I know.

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ashley1992 said:

Agree that we may carry 6 wr and 2 te to open season.

Berrios is going to make the team though. Too many injuries at the position and from what I've read, his play has picked up and he's had a great week.

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patchick said:

A nice wrap-up of today's practice, including a "player of the day" nod to none other than Gunner Olszewski:

Patriots-Titans joint practices: Tom Brady’s young weapons step up, scuffles break out and more observations from Day 2 in Tennessee

Edit: more from Andrew Callahan, something I haven't seen mentioned elsewhere. Apparently the team has switched from separate to combined safety & cornerback meetings this year.
The Patriots’ behind-the-scenes change that could take their secondary to another level

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