Brian Flores

fnordcircle said:

Realistically 3-5 would seem almost unreal in light of losing Flowers. Anything above that is silly to think about right now.

But if they aren't a top 10 defense I'll be disappointed. Specifically top 10 in points against and on 3rd down.

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They were 7th in scoring last year. I think top 5 is doable.

Defense was awesome with Flores, we are going to miss him.

Hyped said:

BB, Crennel, Mangini, Pees, Patricia, and Flores....

We'll be fine....

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fify

Observer said:

Defense was awesome with Flores, we are going to miss him.

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By reports, this year’s D could be even better.

farn said:

By reports, this year’s D could be even better.

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I think it will be. Pennel is standing out and a clear upgrade over Brown. Bennett will easily replace Flowers. And BB finally has the coverage unit to throw exotic blitzes at any QB which we saw during the playoffs. We haven’t seen much of this since the 2001-2004 season. BB also did this a lot with the Jets specifically against Bledsoe and Manning. There’s tons of versatility with this D.

Kdo5 said:

Butler’s absence had a profound affect on the team, not just on the field. But you’re right about Jonathan Jones. He was an underrated loss.

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Let's have another one of these threads, please.

borg said:

If BB’s Giants defensive game plan was HOF worthy (relinquished 20 pts in ‘87 SB and 19 pts in ‘91)....
I suppose Flores’ game plan belongs in the Smithsonian All Universe wing.

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The 1990 Bills' offense scored 44 points and put up 493 yards against the Dolphins (4th ranked scoring D at 15.1 and 7th ranked yardage D at 284) in the Divisional playoffs and then followed that up with another 44 point and 502 yard outburst against the Raiders (7th ranked scoring D at 16.8 and 4th ranked yardage D at 276) in the AFCCG.

Yeah, allowing 17 points and 371 yards counts as an amazing achievement against an all-time great offense.

And as for 1986, the Broncos had 10 points until halfway through the 4th quarter when the Giants were leading by 23 points.

Some context always helps...