Pats re-sign Josh Gordon

Soliel said:

Goodell won’t reinstate Gordon. Take that to the bank

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I really hope your wrong

ChrisR2223 said:

I really hope your wrong

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I hope as well, because if he isn't the narrative will be that it is okay to beat your kid, but not to smoke pot.

Le Numéro Douze said:

I hope as well, because if he isn't the narrative will be that it is okay to beat your kid, but not to smoke pot.

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.....and yet at the sametime Gordon is such a repeat offender that he's already been suspended a full season in the past, how can further punishments be less than that.

It would be a like getting a 2 year jail sentence for an infraction and then only a 1 year jail sentence when you get caught doing that infraction again.

I hope Goodell shows some mercy (for the sake of the Pats) but I just don't see how he reduces the punishment from a prior infraction.

The Tyreek Hill outcome was perplexing though.

brdmaverick said:

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The Tyreek Hill outcome was perplexing though.

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ESPECIALLY given the suspension of Jarran Reed based on a 2017 ACCUSATION of sexual assault that went nowhere. Reed's suspension seems just as arbitrary as Hill's non-suspension. In fact there is FAR more evidence of Hill's maleficence than in Reed's case.

If Gordon remains sidelined, the reasoning is crystal clear. Since Seattle doesn't play the Pats, there was no reason NOT to come down hard on Reed. How else can you explain it. The Commissioner is going to move heaven and earth to make sure the Pats will NOT make the superbowl for a 4th consecutive season. It simply isn't in the NFL marketing plan for that to happen. KC is the best chance he has to ensure that, so Hill plays.

So as Pats fans all we have left to save us is Karma.

SammyBlueCat said:

Ian Rapoport on D&K: Josh Gordon not in Patriots' plans right now

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Oh yeah? And Josh Gordon is getting benched for a quarter.

brdmaverick said:

.....and yet at the sametime Gordon is such a repeat offender that he's already been suspended a full season in the past, how can further punishments be less than that.

It would be a like getting a 2 year jail sentence for an infraction and then only a 1 year jail sentence when you get caught doing that infraction again.

I hope Goodell shows some mercy (for the sake of the Pats) but I just don't see how he reduces the punishment from a prior infraction.

The Tyreek Hill outcome was perplexing though.

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While I agree with your point, it should be noted that Goodell has taken the initiative to work closely in developing a plan that’s specifically tailored to helping these troubled individuals who are repeat offenders and are currently serving indefinite suspensions. It’s basically his shining moment, at least in terms of helping the players.

Gordon has missed 5 games thus far, so I’m expecting up to 1/2 the season (up to 13 games), with the hope of only 1/4 of the upcoming season (9 games total).

When Brady was suspended for essentially nothing, Josh was on the same path for substance abuse issues. The difference was Brady had a "no contact order" with the team, while Gordon was allowed to work out with the Browns. Thought that showed extraordinary "compassion" for Gordon, but now I understand it better.

One of the issues, I read somewhere with Hill, is that the KC police would not cooperate with the NFL during their investigation... I hope the Hill case is not some sort of coverup and that child and girlfriend do not show up as statistics on a government chart..

Jarran Reed, DT for the Seahawks, suspended 6 games. Not arrested, not charged.

Seahawks DL Jarran Reed suspended six games

Clonamery said:

Jarran Reed, DT for the Seahawks, suspended 6 games. Not arrested, not charged.

Seahawks DL Jarran Reed suspended six games

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I posted this a couple of pages back. I understand KC police did not cooperate/provide info to the NFL re: Hill but for a player not to be charged or arrested and suspended TWO YEARS after the event took place is absurd.

robertweathers said:

I posted this a couple of pages back. I understand KC police did not cooperate/provide info to the NFL re: Hill but for a player not to be charged or arrested and suspended TWO YEARS after the event took place is absurd.

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Maybe the NFL was angry because they weren’t notified when the incident occurred.

Clonamery said:

Maybe the NFL was angry because they weren’t notified when the incident occurred.

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...which is ridiculous in its own right if that is the case.

So Gordon won't be allowed to Practice with the Team during TC??

PatsFan2 said:

So Gordon won't be allowed to Practice with the Team during TC??

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We don't know yet right?
I'm sure the answer will come soon

PatsFan2 said:

So Gordon won't be allowed to Practice with the Team during TC??

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This is exactly what the Pats should ask the league for. Let him go through the regiment of training camp, even if the league insists that they keep him out of the pre-season games. Let him try and go into a normal regiment, it is the only way he is ever going to be successful in his recovery.

Make it conditional, daily drug tests, and then a if you stay clean for x amount of weeks, the suspension is lifted.

Although, I don't even think that Gordon has even applied for re-instatment yet, has he?

FreeTedWilliams said:

This is exactly what the Pats should ask the league for. Let him go through the regiment of training camp, even if the league insists that they keep him out of the pre-season games. Let him try and go into a normal regiment, it is the only way he is ever going to be successful in his recovery.

Make it conditional, daily drug tests, and then a if you stay clean for x amount of weeks, the suspension is lifted.

Although, I don't even think that Gordon has even applied for re-instatment yet, has he?

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This makes too much sense for our NFL sadly.
However bravo man that's the perfect solution

I get why the NFL does, but it's also scary to think about the punishments handed out and reputational damage being done when guys are suspended for the 'appearance' of wrongdoing.

In most cases it's probably deserved, but my wife watches a LOT of lifetime movies.

I can basically write the script of the next one in which a girlfriend of an NFL player threatens to cry 'domestic abuse' if he leaves her and/or cheats on her.

FreeTedWilliams said:

This is exactly what the Pats should ask the league for. Let him go through the regiment of training camp, even if the league insists that they keep him out of the pre-season games. Let him try and go into a normal regiment, it is the only way he is ever going to be successful in his recovery.

Make it conditional, daily drug tests, and then a if you stay clean for x amount of weeks, the suspension is lifted.

Although, I don't even think that Gordon has even applied for re-instatment yet, has he?

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I am sure Gordon is familiar with our Playbook Route concepts and all would just love to see him at TC getting HIS reps and timing down with Brady.

As a Pats fan of course we want Goodell to be lenient, but if we are being honest with ourselves.....if we were unbiased we'd be looking at this like......"Suspend him from the league for life. I mean really, how many chances should a guy get?"

Whey help someone who clearly doesn't want to help himself?

brdmaverick said:

As a Pats fan of course we want Goodell to be lenient, but if we are being honest with ourselves.....if we were unbiased we'd be looking at this like......"Suspend him from the league for life. I mean really, how many chances should a guy get?"

Whey help someone who clearly doesn't want to help himself?

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He's a victim a addict not a hardened criminal who is hurting other people.
He's only ruining his own life he deserves to be healthy and happy.
Tyreek Hill deserves prison and becoming a prison ho who's passed around.

brdmaverick said:

As a Pats fan of course we want Goodell to be lenient, but if we are being honest with ourselves.....if we were unbiased we'd be looking at this like......"Suspend him from the league for life. I mean really, how many chances should a guy get?"

Whey help someone who clearly doesn't want to help himself?

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I think you're tasking the wrong question. The league needs to relax it weed policy. Banning for life for using something that's 100% legal in the state he has his job in is wrong now I believe. The question is why do players need a chance given to them for doing something perfectly legal?