Tyreek Hill Investigation

KNUSNGH said:

Again, his “history” sounds like a lie — and she pretty much confirmed it was. And that’s an awful thing to lie about. Have you listened to the full recording?

She took snippets of it and released them. We wanted people to look at the full details of deflategate, at least look at the full details of this case before commenting on it.

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History? He pleaded guilty of punching her in the stomach when she was pregnant with him. Hows that for a snippet? His history sounds like a lie? Your aggressive defense of Hill sounds like a lie to me.

Deus Irae said:

The NFL should not be getting involved with non-NFL things. The NFL has no business getting involved in this case. While I'm annoyed at the obvious disparate treatment that the league takes in these situations, any time the league actually minds its own damned business is a good outcome.

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But are they minding their own business here? No they're not disciplining him but they still thinks its up to them whether he gets disciplined or not.....like they are granting him freedom or something

Only reason the NFL didn’t do anything to suspend him OR force the Chiefs to release him is the Patriots. They are the clearest threat and without Hill? Good luck.

Whenever anyone asks why? This is it. Period.

Maybe Hill will get fined when that kid ends up dead.

Deus Irae said:

I have been consistent in saying that this stuff is none of the league's business.

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And you've been consistent in being wrong. It cannot be denied that when a Ray Rice situation pops up, it reflects extremely poorly on the NFL. It can hurt ratings, attendance and overall perception of the League. It is their business when their athletes beat up women.

I don't even have foolish notions that the NFL suspends their players from a standpoint of "doing the right thing." But they do it because they know they have to from a business standpoint.

TommyD4207 said:

Maybe Hill will get fined when that kid ends up dead.

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His wife used to have a teeny bit of sympathy from me. Now, she has none. You want to get hit or worse but say nothing to have your lifestyle...fine. You are an adult.

To protect your lifestyle at the expense of the safety of your child? You are a 100 percent piece of dog bleep. Worse actually.

Deus Irae said:

I have been consistent in saying that this stuff is none of the league's business. I'm not going to drop that position just because the player involved is a member of the Chiefs, or is unlikable or whatever the excuse to make the exception might be. The league has no business involving itself in the non-work lives of its players. And hopefully, that NFLPA actually has the brains and balls to make sure that the next CBA makes that clear.

My guess is that the players will not do that, largely because they are spineless fools being led by someone who should never have been chosen by them, but I'll continue to hope against hope.

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A guy that I worked with got fired for being convicted for punching his girlfriend. I can see thinking that the league should stay away from non-convictions unless there is evidence that the accuser was paid off. But any criminal conviction they should be encouraged to also punish the individual. they have a "public" business whose place of business is usually in quasi public facilities paid for in tax dollars or ad revenue.

SammyBlueCat said:

On their own letterhead:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_1_fevXYAI4vHW.jpg

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Hill sucks. That being said, the NFL statement raises key points about how their own investigation is hindered. I suspect a minor being involved is the main reason law enforcement has sealed records.

I hope the league follows through per its statement regarding reconsidering the issue as law enforcement provides more details.

Regards,
Chris

PatsWSB47 said:

But are they minding their own business here? No they're not disciplining him but they still thinks its up to them whether he gets disciplined or not.....like they are granting him freedom or something

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They aren't punishing him.


Are you really going to try splitting this hair?

patman52 said:

A guy that I worked with got fired for being convicted for punching his girlfriend. I can see thinking that the league should stay away from non-convictions unless there is evidence that the accuser was paid off. But any criminal conviction they should be encouraged to also punish the individual. they have a "public" business whose place of business is usually in quasi public facilities paid for in tax dollars or ad revenue.

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Edit: Since this site has, pathetically, now devolved to the point where the "s" word is blocked, let me rephrase:

Your take is complete crap, IMO.

Well... this decision and every bit of reasoning behind it is 100% inconsistent with every disciplinary stance the league has taken for the last decade. Why Tyreek ****ing Hill of all people would get the benefit of the doubt with his documented history of domestic abuse, when other people who were far more deserving of it didn't, I'll never understand. Goodell, as always, is a clown.

Triumph Law Firm stated from the get go that it would be near impossible to convict Hill.

No witnesses other than a 5 year old kid..

Deus Irae said:

They aren't punishing him.


Are you really going to try splitting this hair?

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VectorPrime said:

OT: Tyreek Hill being investigated by police for ANOTHER violent incident




He’s beat up his pregnant girlfriend before but got away with it so this doesn’t surprise me. ****ing ban this scum from the league.

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Oh, hey look. It’s Friday. Anything embarrassing for these clowns is alway released right before the weekend to avoid meltdown in hopes things will simmer down.

BradyFTW! said:

Well... this decision and every bit of reasoning behind it is 100% inconsistent with every disciplinary stance the league has taken for the last decade. Why Tyreek ****ing Hill of all people would get the benefit of the doubt with his documented history of domestic abuse, when other people who were far more deserving of it didn't, I'll never understand. Goodell, as always, is a clown.

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See my post above. They had just enough leeway, the Chiefs released Hunt previously on their own and they are with Hill a threat to the Pats. No Hill, no Mahomes being MVP as well.

That is the only reason. Period.

BradyFTW! said:

Well... this decision and every bit of reasoning behind it is 100% inconsistent with every disciplinary stance the league has taken for the last decade. Why Tyreek ****ing Hill of all people would get the benefit of the doubt with his documented history of domestic abuse, when other people who were far more deserving of it didn't, I'll never understand. Goodell, as always, is a clown.

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This has 'don't weaken the current top contender for tops in the AFC' written all over it.

The more you read the more you can clearly see the league pulling a 'lalalalala i don't want to know the facts lalalala' move for this one. Compared that to the rectal exam they gave the dorito dinks...

Let the Chiefs give him top dollar now, no discount.

Hill is like PACMan Jones.
He will get in trouble again

Deus Irae said:

They aren't punishing him.


Are you really going to try splitting this hair?

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They investigated it. If they didnt think it was their business then they'd have kept their nose out if it. They decided not to punish him based on what they say learned or didnt learn and they've made a statement reserving their right to do something if anything else surfaces. This no punishment decision is an outlier kind of behavior for them. I'm with you on them staying away from these kind of things and if this is some kind of new NFL then great but I'm pretty certain they'll be right back to their old ways and come out with some harsh over the top punishment for something else as a make up call for people criticizing them over being too easy this time. They just cant help themselves