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PatsFan2 said:

Agree with some of what you said borg but most times with some of these NBA Big men you just never know. They could groom Taco to be a rim protector but Stretch Fives now neutralize those type of players. That said he's never going to be an offensive powerhouse but if he can get up and down the field and work on his lateral quickness or reaction to the ball we might have something.

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He can get up and down the floor just fine.
He just can’t jump which essentially means he has no explosion to go after balls that don’t fall into his orbit
I’m hoping he can’t jump because he never had to and this skill can be trained in.
If not
Useless
A 7’6” guy should be dominating the boards against summer league scrubs and shorties.
Yet he seems incapable right now
He needs combine type training.... lots of it...:not 15th man DNP status with an occasional practice and walk throughs fitted in between flights

PatsFan2 said:

One thing I disliked so far this off-season with the Celtics is the Daniel Theis signing. I don't know what he does well and its seems like he's always injured. That said I Love the Kanter signing.

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Does everything OK. Bangs around. Can shoot a little. OK rebounder. Good energy. Nothing wrong with Theis.

Kanter needs to prove he can play D.

Hyped said:

Damn, you really underrate some guys...

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I rate them as JAGs whose jobs could be swapped out with all the league’s other JAGs.

I had hope for Semi because he showed he could shoot...but the Brad just shelved him because of Hayward’s return after Semi’s nice 1st year.

borg said:

I rate them as JAGs whose jobs could be swapped out with all the league’s other JAGs.

I had hope for Semi because he showed he could shoot...but the Brad just shelved him because of Hayward’s return after Semi’s nice 1st year.

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Everyone is a JAG to an extent....(shrugs)...thanks for the clarification.

borg said:

He can get up and down the floor just fine.
He just can’t jump which essentially means he has no explosion to go after balls that don’t fall into his orbit
I’m hoping he can’t jump because he never had to and this skill can be trained in.
If not
Useless
A 7’6” guy should be dominating the boards against summer league scrubs and shorties.
Yet he seems incapable right now
He needs combine type training.... lots of it...:not 15th man DNP status with an occasional practice and walk throughs fitted in between flights

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His issue with rebounding is his lack of fighting for position. He's content to stay behind defenders and try jumping over them. Whether that's by coaching design or not is a question I'd like answered, along with the question of why his only offensive setups are bottom left corner of the backboard and setting a pick at top that doesn't involve any threat of a return pass.

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of what we're seeing from Tacko, and a lot of other players, is because the offense has been geared around the 3 draftees.

Tacko Fall apparently can jump some.....he had a 12"3" vertical at the NBA combine (enough to reach the top of the back board).

robertweathers said:

Nothing wrong with Theis.

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Arguably the Celtics biggest defensive liability, especially now that Flat Earther is gone.
Theis has become entrenched in the Amir Johnson slot reserved for light in the britches defensive shells.
Williams gets the fat asses slot vacated by Yabu.
Danny has a system
A system that doesn’t includes drafting bonafide shooters

Hyped said:

Tacko Fall apparently can jump some.....he had a 12"3" vertical at the NBA combine (enough to reach the top of the back board).

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Considering the FG crossbar is 10' tall, Tacko could be a ST contributor by being brought in to block FG attempts longer than 50 yards. He's also be a great RZ threat for pass plays inside 5 yards.

Problem is if hes tackled hard he'd break in 1/2.

Hyped said:

Tacko Fall apparently can jump some.....he had a 12"3" vertical at the NBA combine (enough to reach the top of the back board).

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His in game leaping might be 5”

borg said:

Arguably the Celtics biggest defensive liability, especially now that Flat Earther is gone.
Theis has become entrenched in the Amir Johnson slot reserved for light in the britches defensive shells.
Williams gets the fat asses slot vacated by Yabu.
Danny has a system
A system that doesn’t includes drafting bonafide shooters

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Yea Theis is not a stopper.

Deus Irae said:

His issue with rebounding is his lack of fighting for position. He's content to stay behind defenders and try jumping over them. Whether that's by coaching design or not is a question I'd like answered, along with the question of why his only offensive setups are bottom left corner of the backboard and setting a pick at top that doesn't involve any threat of a return pass.

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of what we're seeing from Tacko, and a lot of other players, is because the offense has been geared around the 3 draftees.

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The man does not jump
Stop seeing what isn’t there

YOUGOTMOSSED said:

Williams looks pretty damn good, actually. I thought he was a STEAL at 22.

Carsen Edwards looking like an even bigger steal at 33.

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I had the Cs taking Edwards with their 3rd 1st rounder

robertweathers said:

Yea Theis is not a stopper.

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Theis is awful and gets paid $5 mill per year with his new deal.
Gives Hayward someone to talk to?

robertweathers said:

Does everything OK. Bangs around. Can shoot a little. OK rebounder. Good energy. Nothing wrong with Theis.

Kanter needs to prove he can play D.

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My hope for Kanter is that his offense and rebounding make us not talk about his defense

borg said:

The man does not jump
Stop seeing what isn’t there

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I'm watching the games. I'm re-watching the games. I'm focusing on the two centers, Fall and Williams, more than any other players, as that's the weakest position on the roster.

My post stands.

robertweathers said:

Does everything OK. Bangs around. Can shoot a little. OK rebounder. Good energy. Nothing wrong with Theis...

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...except his contract...

PatsFan2 said:

One thing I disliked so far this off-season with the Celtics is the Daniel Theis signing. I don't know what he does well and its seems like he's always injured. That said I Love the Kanter signing.

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Shot almost 39 percent from 3 last year. None of their other bigs can shoot the 3.

borg said:

Theis is awful and gets paid $5 mill per year with his new deal.
Gives Hayward someone to talk to?

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Theis is not awful.

captain stone said:

...except his contract...

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Its fine.

Hyped said:

Tacko Fall apparently can jump some.....he had a 12"3" vertical at the NBA combine (enough to reach the top of the back board).

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Top of NBA backboard is 13’0”