How do you honestly feel about our chance at a repeat?

mister clyde · Jul 8, 2019

I know better, but there have been times in the BB/TB era that I have doubted what the team was capable of. More often than not, when I have these doubts I am proven wrong. I tell myself "they can't pull out ANOTHER one", and then they do. So screw it. They will win. Final record 17-2. They will get their yearly loss to Miami, probably game 2 in Miami because it'll be 100 degrees and the team won't be firing on all cylinders just yet. The second loss? I'm going with November 3rd at Baltimore. More than halfway through the season and they haven't had the bye yet so there's bound to be people banged up. Plus Baltimore always gives the Pats a harder time regardless of how the rest of their year goes.

zoostation · Jul 8, 2019

shmessy said:
I love High as much as anyone, but our LB corps is faaar deeper than last year. If he goes down Van Noy is now a leader and that Secondary is deep and experienced also.

Isaiah Wynn’s health is much more critical to the Pats. I’m scared about the OT/TE depth. LB? Not so much.

I’m more concerned about who protects Brady’s blindside if Wynn is lousy or goes down than a LB corps of Van Noy - Bentley - Collins ...... with Roberts/Winovich as backups. Given the depth at secondary, the Pats can still win #7 with that LB corps.

Yes, as of today OT/TE depth are concerns....I'd add DE/DT to that.

Ivan · Jul 8, 2019

Doublebase said:
Brady stays healthy and the left tackle position stabilizes? I like our chances, especially if the NFL suspends Hill and the league tears into Kansas City (with an off season to really study Mahomes).

Our secondary should be very good, our linebacker position should be deep and versatile. We may have an issue at pass rush but when haven't we? They make it to the playoffs and then the blitzes come that apparently no one has prepared for...or they roll out a five man line (Jesus that was crazy in the SB). It'll be something.

Do need a tight end...imagine there will be weekly tryouts and trades until they do.

Have three big receivers, all of which have serious questions...Harry a rookie, Thomas with the injury and Gordon with the suspension. That's a lot of questions.

Good stable of backs - the kid from Bama should add quality depth and power - and if Michel becomes a part of the passing game? Won't have to sub anything in unless they want to. Tough on D to plan for that. Love White, is it me or did he improve as a runner last year? Kind of reminded me of how Vereen and Faulk improved in that area as third down backs - he quietly added something there, he really did. And as a pass catcher I just love his game...so clean, so compact...this is what a professionally skilled pass catching back looks like. Consistency. No wasted motion.

And I'll tell you what - they don't win the Super Bowl last year without that offensive line - one of the best in football. Seems like forever I've waited for guys that can run block like that. That interior? The way they move? You don't get interiors like that very often, and they can pass block too. Hopefully the left tackle spot will be ok with Wynn, if so? This is one hell of a unit and I'd expected the same type of production again.

Tyreek Hill came into the league after abusing his girlfriend so seriously that he should have been sent to jail for years, and he has continued to abuse and terrorize his girlfriend and child throughout his career. He should be banned from the NFL for life.

PatsDeb · Jul 8, 2019

I'm honestly feeling pretty good about it, until we stink in the first preseason game of course. ;-)

RedSleevesPinkStripes · Jul 8, 2019

SammyBlueCat · Jul 8, 2019

A lot has to happen over the next several months

SBLIII · Jul 8, 2019

SammyBlueCat said:
A lot has to happen over the next several months

Wins.

203Pat · Jul 8, 2019

Obviously it’s all prefaced on injuries but I feel we have as good a chance as ever to repeat. I think the Chiefs will take a step back losing Hill (I’m assuming for at least a few games) also I don’t think that Williams will hold up at RB the way Kareem Hunt did. The Steelers lost the best receiver in the league and always seem to be a clownshow regardless of who they get rid of.

sean10mm · Jul 8, 2019

Depends largely on if Brady is still Brady in late 2019-early 2020.

"It's gotta end sometime, I guess?" - what I've been saying since 2015 or something lmao

PatsFanSince74 · Jul 8, 2019

Given how Belichick's teams always "evolve" and find themselves during the season, I think I'll give a Belichickean answer and say, "I'll be able to answer that question in the middle of November."

jmt57 · Jul 8, 2019

How do you honestly feel about our chance at a repeat?

I believe the Patriots have at minimum as good a chance as any team in the league.

A more optimistic way of answering would be to say that they have the best chance of any team.

That being said, their chance are still very slim because we are comparing the possibility of one outcome versus the possibility of 31 other outcomes. If you offered me even odds and I could either take the Patriots or the entire field of 31 other teams, I'll take the field each and every time.

Winning a championship is extremely difficult, even if you do have the best team. An injury to a key player at a very inopportune moment, multiple injuries at one position, a fluke catch or missed catch, the unpredictable nature of a bounce by a prolate spheroid, a missed call by a referee, the random nature of a single elimination tournament,etc.

ivanvamp · Jul 9, 2019

Winning a Super Bowl is super duper hard. Only one team every year gets to achieve that goal (obviously). As unreal as the Pats' run in the TB/BB era has been, they've "only" won it 6 out of 18 times. Meaning...they've NOT won it 2/3 of the time. So odds are very much against the Pats. So if the bet is Pats vs. the Field, you're crazy to take the Pats. But if the bet is the Pats vs. any other individual team's chances, I'll happily take the Pats.

Realistically, I think they win 12-13 games, get a #1 or #2 seed, and go to the AFCCG. From there it depends on a lot of things: health, luck, HFA, what have you. Getting to the NFL Final Four is a remarkable achievement that the Pats have made seem routine and easy, but it's not.

Nehalem · Jul 9, 2019

ivanvamp said:
Winning a Super Bowl is super duper hard. Only one team every year gets to achieve that goal (obviously). As unreal as the Pats' run in the TB/BB era has been, they've "only" won it 6 out of 18 times. Meaning...they've NOT won it 2/3 of the time. So odds are very much against the Pats. So if the bet is Pats vs. the Field, you're crazy to take the Pats. But if the bet is the Pats vs. any other individual team's chances, I'll happily take the Pats.

Realistically, I think they win 12-13 games, get a #1 or #2 seed, and go to the AFCCG. From there it depends on a lot of things: health, luck, HFA, what have you. Getting to the NFL Final Four is a remarkable achievement that the Pats have made seem routine and easy, but it's not.

Looking at more recent history the Pats have won it 3/5.

So in the immortal words of a certain NFL executive: "Its more probable than not that the Pats win the SB"

RobertWeathers · Jul 9, 2019

ivanvamp said:
Realistically, I think they win 12-13 games, get a #1 or #2 seed, and go to the AFCCG.

brdmaverick · Jul 9, 2019

It's definitely too early, but sure, our chances are just as good as anyone else's.

The only team that's had a monstrous offseason is the Browns and well.......

1.) It's the Browns, so they'll screw it up

2.) We tend to see the big name "all star" teams fail anyway. It's more about having a blue collar team than all star team.

brdmaverick · Jul 9, 2019

Patsfanin Philly said:
Since that game, Brady has gone 57-15 in the regular season and 12-2 in the playoffs. That's 69-17 or .802 winning percentage for the math-impaired.....

Hey Beavis, he said "69", he he

TheRainMaker · Jul 9, 2019

Doublebase said:
We may have an issue at pass rush but when haven't we?

Pass rush will be better than last year. Bennett is better than Flowers. Winovich will push Rivers for playing time. It’s sink or swim for that guy. Collins will blitz up the middle which he is very good at. See him dominate the 2015 AFC Title Game rushing the passer. HT can rush if needed.

Vindicate · Jul 9, 2019

Ice_Ice_Brady said:
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don’t get sucked into the checkers playing media thinking. That team isn’t making the postseason.

Last year I was pretty vocal in my circle about how bad of a decision it was to go all in on Khalil as they did, but a lot of people kind of shrugged it off. I think it's going to show this season more than last.

Which begs the question, when does it ever pay off (even in the short term) to go "all in"? Seems to me that a franchise, if not generational talent QB, is absolutely necessary.

supafly · Jul 9, 2019

brdmaverick said:
Hey Beavis, he said "69", he he

“6x9+6+9”

—Gronk

brdmaverick · Jul 9, 2019

Todd Bradley said:
There’s really people in here questioning if this current squad is a dynasty? Seriously?

3 in 5 years is a dynasty.

I don’t hear anyone debating the validity of the San Francisco Giants dynasty for doing the same exact thing a few years back.

The Giants won 3 times in a 5 year stretch at some point after 2000? Wow, shows how little I care about baseball.

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