An insight into why the Pats' D was so good at the end of the season

captain stone said:

Jamie Collins...cover the (RB/TE) receiver???

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reamer said:

I'll try to find time to show some of his positive traits in coverage. It's hard to forget those two TDs he gave up in Denver, but on certain routes, Collins is quite solid. My guess is that Bill will put him in a position to succeed more often than not, particularly since we use subpackages more frequently than when he was here before. Likely he won't be tasked with deep coverage as much. While he may not become a mainstay, he could prove a nice chess piece.

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captain stone said:

Jamie Collins...cover the (RB/TE) receiver???

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reamer said:

I'll try to find time to show some of his positive traits in coverage. It's hard to forget those two TDs he gave up in Denver, but on certain routes, Collins is quite solid. My guess is that Bill will put him in a position to succeed more often than not, particularly since we use subpackages more frequently than when he was here before. Likely he won't be tasked with deep coverage as much. While he may not become a mainstay, he could prove a nice chess piece.

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TommyD4207 said:

Mahomes, you may have an argument, although he did play the same team a couple of months earlier.

Goff's a 3-year starter. I'd hardly call that 'very inexperienced'.

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reamer said:

One could argue it worked just fine against Rodgers. He only completed 55% of his passes (24 of 43), barely managed 17 points, and couldn't get a single thing done in the 4th quarter when it mattered. Look at every 4th quarter play he had in the game, starting when it was still 17 - 24:

Kickoff
S.Gostkowski kicks 65 yards from NE 35 to end zone, Touchback.
Kickoff from NE 35

3 Yard Run
(10:06) (Shotgun) J.Williams up the middle to GB 28 for 3 yards (P.Chung; K.Van Noy).
1st & 10 at GB 25

Pass Incomplete
(9:28) A.Rodgers pass incomplete deep left to E.St. Brown (J.McCourty).
2nd & 7 at GB 28

Sack
(9:21) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers sacked at GB 19 for -9 yards (sack split by T.Flowers and A.Clayborn).
3rd & 7 at GB 28

Punt
(8:40) J.Scott punts 53 yards to NE 28, Center-H.Bradley, fair catch by J.Edelman.
4th & 16 at GB 19




Kickoff
S.Gostkowski kicks 65 yards from NE 35 to end zone, Touchback.
Kickoff from NE 35

7 Yard Pass
(7:20) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass short left to A.Jones to GB 32 for 7 yards (K.Van Noy).
1st & 10 at GB 25

-1 Yard Run
(6:52) (No Huddle, Shotgun) A.Jones up the middle to GB 31 for -1 yards (K.Van Noy; M.Brown).
2nd & 3 at GB 32

5 Yard Penalty
(6:33) (No Huddle) A.Rodgers sacked at GB 19 for -12 yards (A.Clayborn). FUMBLES (A.Clayborn) [A.Clayborn], ball out of bounds at GB 21. PENALTY on NE, Defensive Too Many Men on Field, 5 yards, enforced at GB 31 - No Play.
3rd & 4 at GB 31

Pass Incomplete
(6:10) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass incomplete short right to A.Jones.
1st & 10 at GB 36

2 Yard Run
(6:05) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers scrambles left end pushed ob at GB 38 for 2 yards (T.Flowers).
2nd & 10 at GB 36

8 Yard Pass
(5:24) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass short middle to D.Adams to GB 46 for 8 yards (D.Harmon).
3rd & 8 at GB 38

Pass Incomplete
(4:54) (No Huddle, Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass incomplete deep right to E.St. Brown.
1st & 10 at GB 46

6 Yard Run
(4:50) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers scrambles up the middle to NE 48 for 6 yards (J.Simon).
2nd & 10 at GB 46

Pass Incomplete
(4:01) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass incomplete deep left to L.Kendricks.
3rd & 4 at NE 48

Turnover on Downs
(3:52) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass incomplete short left to M.Valdes-Scantling [A.Clayborn].
4th & 4 at NE 48



Three straight incompletions. Game.

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patfanken said:

And I wouldn't be shocked to see Rivers come out of no where to add significant depth to the LB/DL mix. Just sayin'.

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patfanken said:

Just a thought. It seems to me that just like in the NBA, the NFL is trending more and more to having a more "positionless" aspect to its line ups. Things like SS, FS have less meaning. You have DB's playing LB and LB's' playing on the DL.

When the Pats failed to draft a DLman high, I was concerned, but I'm a lot less concerned now. Again, just my OPINION, but the Pats may have the best 1-10 secondary in the league, and the LB's aren't far behind (assuming Bentley plays like he did last season). The addition of Jamie Collins might end up being thought of as one of the 5 best FA acquisitions in the league when all is said and done. And I wouldn't be shocked to see Rivers come out of no where to add significant depth to the LB/DL mix. Just sayin'

I look for Danny Shelton to improve his play. I'd be thrilled to get 85% of the 2014 Michael Bennett. I expect another DLman to be added sometime before the season starts. I still hope for perhaps a trade with the Niners for Solomon Thomas, who needs a fresh start.

With the strength we have at LB and in the Secondary, all we need from the DL is to be the same as last year. A lot of "good"no name, try hard players who can scheme enough pressure to compliment our 2 strengths.

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robertweathers said:

Yep.

...and I'm one of the ones who trashed him for freelancing. The question is why was he freelancing? Chasing stats and big plays or bad reads ?

What we do know is Jamie and Bill are ok giving it another shot and so am I.

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