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Carson Edwards ... 3rd ranked PG

IcyPatriot said:

Carson Edwards ... 3rd ranked PG

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This along with moving Baynes were Danny’s best moves.

IcyPatriot said:

Carson Edwards ... 3rd ranked PG

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SG/SF, undersized PF, small PG with a sizable need at center and what appears to be a decent chunk of available cap to work with. Can't help feel something is cooking in the background.

They are clearing cap space which I am happy about. My preference is that they go for D'Angelo Russell if the Nets go the Kyrie route.

I'm very impressed with Russell. He is a young All-Star on his way up. We are rebuilding but with Russell we aren't fully doing so.

DLo/Brown/Tatum is a sweet group if they play well together. The problem is we have no bigs.

But cmon we can't go into the season with Smart as PG1.

IcyPatriot said:

To Bol or not to Bol ............ stay tuned.

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Not Bol!

Big Ten heavy.....Indiana and Purdue players....hmmm...hmmm....

Knee jerk response (and I reserve the right to change my mind at any time prior to the start of camp):

I'm not sure it would even have been possible to have a worse draft if they had been trying to.

I think Kemba is a pipe dream. Most likely staying with Charlotte on a max deal or heading out west.

If they don’t bring back Rozier, I’d like to see them make a run at brogdon (bucks can match). Then going with a cheaper option at center like Valanciunas.

Bol Bol to the Heat ............. we're doomed.

Deus Irae said:

Knee jerk response (and I reserve the right to change my mind at any time prior to the start of camp):

I'm not sure it would even have been possible to have a worse draft if they had been trying to.

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Dunno...IMO they couldn't do better nor worse.... they managed to trade Baynes...which makes this a productive night, IMO. This draft was a crapshoot after the 4th pick.

Also Ainge saved around $2.6 million by only picking 2 in the 1st and knocking back to #24.

Here's a great article about the cap room.
A step-by-step look at how the Celtics can open $39 million in cap space

PG Tremont Waters ..... Later Rozier .......

Hyped said:

Dunno...IMO they couldn't do better nor worse.... they managed to trade Baynes...which makes this a productive night, IMO. This draft was a crapshoot after the 4th pick.

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• They traded away a guy who could give a legit 20 minutes a night at a position where they are currently all but completely barren, for cap space, at a time where there doesn't seem to be any player available to the Celtics who's worth the big cap spending.
  
• They drafted a point guard who's only 6 foot tall, when the idea of Stevens' system is to get players as close to even sized as possible.
  
• They drafted a wing, when they've already got Brown, Tatum and Hayward.
  
• They drafted a PF who's 6'6" - 6'7", not the shooter that they system calls for, and quite possibly not quick enough to make the kind of switches the system calls for.

Other than pushing a first into next year, none of the moves make sense at the moment, especially when Ainge's drafting has been problematic for a long time.*





*Again, this is just a knee jerk reaction. Time and/or (most likely it'll need to be the "or") later moves may make the draft look better.

IcyPatriot said:

PG Tremont Waters ..... Later Rozier .......

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5'11" and 6'0" pgs drafted, and only 2 players from last year's second round managed to play in more than 65 games. I'm not saying that Rozier's staying, but you might want to hold off on his going away party, for now.

Deus Irae said:

5'11" and 6'0" pgs drafted, and only 2 players from last year's second round managed to play in more than 65 games. I'm not saying that Rozier's staying, but you might want to hold off on his going away party, for now.

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I like Rozier ... but the reality may be that his cap hold is more valuable than the player.

IcyPatriot said:

I like Rozier ... but the reality may be that his cap hold is more valuable than the player.

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You may be right as to how they view Rozier. But heading into an NBA season with two PGs who are 6 foot or under, and are both rookies taken in round 2 of the draft, is not likely to be the desired approach.

IcyPatriot said:

Bol Bol looks like he's 7'5"

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That's because he weighs 140 pounds.

Deus Irae said:

• They traded away a guy who could give a legit 20 minutes a night at a position where they are currently all but completely barren, for cap space, at a time where there doesn't seem to be any player available to the Celtics who's worth the big cap spending.
  
• They drafted a point guard who's only 6 foot tall, when the idea of Stevens' system is to get players as close to even sized as possible.
  
• They drafted a wing, when they've already got Brown, Tatum and Hayward.
  
• They drafted a PF who's 6'6" - 6'7", not the shooter that they system calls for, and quite possibly not quick enough to make the kind of switches the system calls for.

Other than pushing a first into next year, none of the moves make sense at the moment, especially when Ainge's drafting has been problematic for a long time.*





*Again, this is just a knee jerk reaction. Time and/or (most likely it'll need to be the "or") later moves may make the draft look better.

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They didn't draft Edwards to play the point. The drafted Edwards to be instant offense off the bench. This guy is a stone cold killer. Look at what he did in the tournament. IT 2.0, only healthy and better. The steal of the draft.

rochrist said:

They didn't draft Edwards to play the point. The drafted Edwards to be instant offense off the bench. This guy is a stone cold killer. Look at what he did in the tournament. IT 2.0, only healthy and better. The steal of the draft.

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I've got no problem with any number of fliers in round 2, whether they make sense or not, because 2nd round picks are so different from first round picks in the NBA. They're all but meaningless, in some ways. If anything, my problem with round 2 is that they didn't find a way to get Bol, who was the unicorn of this draft.

But this team went into the draft needing:

C
PG
real, actual PF with size

and came out 0 for 3 when it mattered.

️ Wyc Grousbeck: "It's a good time to be trying to retool like this" The @Celtics' owner joins @Scalabrine & @KyleDraperTV to talk Kyrie/Horford rumors and how they can rebuild through the draft/free agency pic.twitter.com/qtqM5IVmK3

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Wyc asked on @NBCSBoston to characterize state of team: “Building or re-tooling, we’re starting with a core of Marcus Smart, Gordon Hayward, Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum. Start with that and add in the rest of the roster, not to slight anybody, and then restricted rights on Terry."

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"we’re starting with a core of Marcus Smart, Gordon Hayward, Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum"

If you're starting with a core that mostly consists of 3 players sharing two positions, spending your first draft pick on another player who would be sharing those two positions, and who's not likely to be better than any of the core 3, is not good resource management.

Deus Irae said:

I've got no problem with any number of fliers in round 2, whether they make sense or not, because 2nd round picks are so different from first round picks in the NBA. They're all but meaningless, in some ways. If anything, my problem with round 2 is that they didn't find a way to get Bol, who was the unicorn of this draft.

But this team went into the draft needing:

C
PG
real, actual PF with size

and came out 0 for 3 when it mattered.

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They have a center who I expect is better than what they could have gotten out of the draft. I agree about PF, but I do think Williams has some promise. PG, your guess is as good as mine. After Marcus. Maybe that's where they'll set their free agent sights.