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Reports/Speculation: Texans will pursue Caserio AGAIN after 2020 Draft/UPDATE - Rumor: He wants out


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Not when you are claiming to be right at the same time,

Hypothetically you could have been right.


But I seriously doubt it.
I’m honestly curious here so please riddle me this: Which part of my thesis do you “seriously doubt”? (1) My belief that if our hypothetical situation came to pass the Commissioner would rule against the Patriots or (2) my belief that the Patriots would lose in federal court?

(Disclaimer: I realize the hypothetical isn’t happening in this case because the matter has been dropped by the Texans but it sure seems to me that it’s worth understanding for the future)
 
The question raised is whether or not the clause in Caserio’s contract is legit according to the governing bylaws of the NFL. That is not a hypothetical, that is merely the question at hand (and, IMHO, it is a very important question because while it the matter has been dropped in this particular instance, I do not consider quite as unlikely of a scenario as you seem to at some point in the future for some team with some exec)

My response is putting forth the hypothetical that if push came to shove - which we know isn’t going to happen since the parties have dropped the matter but I am speaking hypothetically here - then the aforementioned clause would likely be invalidated by the Commissioner (and the Patriots wouldn’t stand a rat’s chance in hell of getting that overturned in federal court).

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It might not be that he wants to leave as much as that he can go from being a mid level executive under Bill to being the most powerful man in the Texans football operations.
Nick Caserio isn't a 'mid-level' executive.
 
Nick Caserio isn't a 'mid-level' executive.
I don't see where all the confusion regarding Nick

If people read the Anti-Tampering Policy its pretty clear cut.

Right from the Anti-Tampering Policy.

High-level Employee

Under Contract. Except as may be otherwise provided in such contract, a club is not obligated to grant another club permission to discuss employment with a high-level employee if he or she is under contract, even if the inquiring club is prepared to offer the employee a position of greater responsibility within the category of high-level club employee. An employer club may negotiate a right of first refusal into the contract of a high-level employee.

Non High-Level Employee

(k) Other Club Employees (Non-Player, Non-Coach). The following provisions govern in cases of club employees who do not fall into the categories of player, coach, or highlevel employee (see definition above):

(1) Under Contract. If a club employee (other than player, coach, or high-level employee) is under contract for the succeeding season or seasons at the time an off-season expression of interest in him or her is made to the employer club by another club, the employer club is under no obligation to grant the employee the opportunity to discuss the position with the interested club. At the discretion of the employer club, however, such permission may be voluntarily granted. If, however, the inquiring club is prepared to offer a position as a high-level employee, as defined above, the employer club may not deny the employee the opportunity to discuss and accept such employment. (See Section 4(k)(4) (March 1 Rule) for exception to this rule.)

In either case, if Nick is designated as a "high-level" employee, Pats are in their rights. If Nick is not a "high level" employee then HOU needs to declare Nick will have final say over all personnel matters. Are BOB and Cal cool with that?

...and here is what Goody would/would not do if HOU decided to go nuclear.

6. ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW.
If a disagreement arises over whether an employer club has improperly withheld permission or whether a club has incorrectly designated the category of an employee (see section on high-level employees), the involved club or clubs may certify a dispute with the Commissioner. The Commissioner will then promptly gather all pertinent facts, including but not limited to the proposed contracts, authority, and responsibilities of the proposed job change. In rendering his final, expedited decision, the Commissioner will not be disposed to approve a job change that in name is a promotion but in fact is a lateral move involving little or no greater responsibility than the prior job. As provided for above under “Non-Players,” no club, nor any person employed by or otherwise affiliated with a club, is permitted to discuss employment with an employee of another club during the employer club’s playing season, regardless of the contractual status of the employee. Conversely, it will be considered unreasonable for any employer, during the off-season, to deny permission to another club to discuss or offer employment to a non-contract employee or to deny permission to a non-contract employee to seek other employment on his or her own.

I wonder if because NE declares Nick a high level employee in his contract, and the move to HOU was laternal in nature, was it that condition and not the "he can't interview" language which deterred HOU from moving forward?

https://nflcommunications.com/Documents/2018 Policies/7-2018 Anti-Tampering Policy-Clean Version.pdf
 
Absolutely insane that he has some clause in his contract about interviewing with other teams. If that’s true why the hell would he sign that?
 
Absolutely insane that he has some clause in his contract about interviewing with other teams. If that’s true why the hell would he sign that?
bigger salary for signing that clause
 


What a f**king moron.

If Caserio really wants out like this dumbass paints it then nothing is stopping him from handing in his resignation, taking a year off with his contract supposedly being up in 2020 and being free to go to any team then.

This f**cking hack is acting like the Pats going the tampering route was them tying Caserio up in a chair putting a gun to his head.


And like vultures on a piece of fresh meat the rest of media is feasting on this hack's zero sources citied "report"

Man just seeing this I want Caserio to sign an extension down the road. See how this f**ckhead spins it. Because he has firmly put himself on the "Caserio wants out" hill. Not "Caserio wants the GM title and more say" or a new contract.
 
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Nothing beyond the Volin report that I see.
 
What a pissy little piece of conjecture that Volin article is. Saying Cesario “wants out of New England” puts as dark as possible a spin on mere speculation that a guy might want to run the whole show at some point, which would be absolutely understandable and fine. Then he adds to that by talking about the “exodus” of coaches out of New England, without actually looking at each individual circumstance. Lazy, nasty writing. Belichick shows them the contempt they deserve.
 
He is full of crap he Will eat crow when Caserio signs a new deal with us before camp starts.
He won't eat crow, he'll pretend he didn't say it. That's how it's gone in the past.

Ben Volin should really have his own radio show, he'd fit right in.
 

Nothing beyond the Volin report that I see.


And it begins

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What a f**king moron.

If Caserio really wants out like this dumbass paints it then nothing is stopping him from handing in his resignation, taking a year off with his contract supposedly being up in 2020 and being free to go to any team then.

This f**cking hack is acting like the Pats going the tampering route was them tying Caserio up in a chair putting a gun to his head.


And like vultures on a piece of fresh meat the rest of media is feasting on this hack's zero sources citied "report"

Man just seeing this I want Caserio to sign an extension down the road. See how this f**ckhead spins it. Because he has firmly put himself on the "Caserio wants out" hill. Not "Caserio wants the GM title and more say" or a new contract.

If Caserio is that unhappy and wants to leave that badly, then why doesn't he just quit, and negotiate a buyout?
 
bigger salary for signing that clause
Or, or...he didn't care, because he doesn't want to go anywhere.

You know, the simple, non-dramatic, non-radio show answer.
 
If he really wants out then why the hell would the team want to force him to stay? It’s not in either sides best interest to keep someone in place who isn’t happy. If he ends up staying then I think Volin is full of crap.
 
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