Texans fire GM. Could impact Patriots

Soliel · Jun 8, 2019

There’s no way nick leaves to go to the Texans. Too much loser smell out there, snakes, bad news spiders and football teams that are a joke

Soliel · Jun 8, 2019

goheels22002 said:
The friggin' Texans want to be us so bad, Belichick should be able to pry Jadeveon Clowney from them for Nick Caserio, Squeaky the Douche Massarotti and the first four miles of the Southeast Expressway.

I hate clowny, with a name like that, he should live in Cincinnati

supafly · Jun 8, 2019

Soliel said:
There’s no way nick leaves to go to the Texans. Too much loser smell out there, snakes, bad news spiders and football teams that are a joke

Doesn’t smell half as bad as Ohio though, amirite?

Edit: you beat me to it while I was typing this post!

Soliel · Jun 8, 2019

supafly said:
Doesn’t smell half as bad as Ohio though, amirite?

Edit: you beat me to it while I was typing this post!

Not even close. The universe would implode if he went to Ohio.

Ivan · Jun 8, 2019

TBR said:
Texans can f*ck off with their poaching. Not like they've accomplished much with doing so anyway.

Tell Bob McNair to go f.ck himself.

JMC00 · Jun 8, 2019

Ivan said:
Tell Bob McNair to go f.ck himself.

That might be hard to do, given that he's 6 feet deep.

Ivan · Jun 8, 2019

JMC00 said:
That might be hard to do, given that he's 6 feet deep.

Did not know that.

Tell whoever asked to go f.ck themself. Caserio is Belichick’s successor.

jmt57 · Jun 8, 2019

I was slightly surprised when Bill O'Brien accepted a job with Houston. Bob McNair didn't seem like the type of owner a former Patriot would want to work for. I would think at some point the inner circle would have discussions about BB's experience with owners (Kraft on one end, Art Modell on the other).

With Bob McNair out of the picture, does that make Houston a better place for a coach or executive? If the new owners (wife and son) focus strictly on the business side, while ceding all football operations and decisions to the football people, I would think it would make Houston a desirable option.

On the other hand it is possible that they are in way over their heads with running the operation.

New report details Cleveland Browns' dysfunction under Jimmy Haslam

"We just don't know what we are doing," Haslam's wife and Browns co-owner Dee Haslam reportedly told employees. "If we'd known how hard it would be, we never would have bought the team."

To me that type of uncertainty would cause Caserio to want stay right where he is.

Bourne Again Christian · Jun 8, 2019

jmt57 said:
I was slightly surprised when Bill O'Brien accepted a job with Houston. Bob McNair didn't seem like the type of owner a former Patriot would want to work for. I would think at some point the inner circle would have discussions about BB's experience with owners (Kraft on one end, Art Modell on the other).

With Bob McNair out of the picture, does that make Houston a better place for a coach or executive? If the new owners (wife and son) focus strictly on the business side, while ceding all football operations and decisions to the football people, I would think it would make Houston a desirable option.

On the other hand it is possible that they are in way over their heads with running the operation.

New report details Cleveland Browns' dysfunction under Jimmy Haslam

"We just don't know what we are doing," Haslam's wife and Browns co-owner Dee Haslam reportedly told employees. "If we'd known how hard it would be, we never would have bought the team."

To me that type of uncertainty would cause Caserio to want stay right where he is.

I remember hearing Mcdaniels and Caserio are joined at the hip.
That is the future leadership in New England.
Monty would be smart to take the promotion if it's offered to him either here or there if Caserio surprises and leaves.
However we would be in good hands with Monty.

Also nobody mentioned the fact that maybe pioli comes back here or to Houston.
It's very interesting indeed.

holyredeemer · Jun 8, 2019

I guess it would all depend on how much money is being thrown around, and how much Caserio is currently making. Winning and being a part of an amazing organization like the Pats is a huge draw, but if you’re making $1M & another team throws another 1-2M atcha, it’d be really hard to say no.

Adam Seward · Jun 8, 2019

All their problems started when Rick Smith left.

RobertWeathers · Jun 8, 2019

Adam Seward said:
All their problems started when Rick Smith left.

Rick Smith sucked. He signed Osweiler.

LJRomanoff · Jun 8, 2019

holyredeemer said:
I guess it would all depend on how much money is being thrown around, and how much Caserio is currently making. Winning and being a part of an amazing organization like the Pats is a huge draw, but if you’re making $1M & another team throws another 1-2M atcha, it’d be really hard to say no.

Sure, but it's not like the Patriots couldn't give him a raise either.

Deus Irae · Jun 8, 2019

Adam Seward said:
All their problems started when Rick Smith left.

Nah

Their problems started when Schaub collapsed as an NFL starter and Kubiak's medical problems hit after that. They went from 12-4 to 2-14. That was in 2013. Smith wasn't gone until 2017. In between, it was 9-7 three straight seasons, as they tried to find a QB. They went 11-5 last season, and won their division.

If Watson is the real deal, the injuries to the best players stop, and the drafting/FA doesn't suck, the Texans will be good and competitive, in a suddenly strong AFCS.

JayNM · Jun 8, 2019

I feel like this time of the year is all about the coaches

Scouts are done for last year and readying up for next class

Rosters are mostly full, with the new wave of FA coming only after TC injuries start to roll

I dont recall any noteworthy trades happening before TC. Then we have the traditional fringe players and conditional draft picks swap-a-rama

Idk, to me feels like this is the best time, other than maybe just after the end of the season, to make FO switches.

Ivan · Jun 8, 2019

ChrisR2223 said:
I remember hearing Mcdaniels and Caserio are joined at the hip.
That is the future leadership in New England.
Monty would be smart to take the promotion if it's offered to him either here or there if Caserio surprises and leaves.
However we would be in good hands with Monty.

Also nobody mentioned the fact that maybe pioli comes back here or to Houston.
It's very interesting indeed.

Pioli replacing Caserio is a sh.t deal for the Patriots. No f.cking thanks. Caserio is being groomed to take over, tell the Texans to get bent. They can have Pioli if they want someone from the Belichick tree.

holyredeemer · Jun 8, 2019

LJRomanoff said:
Sure, but it's not like the Patriots couldn't give him a raise either.

I agree. I’m just saying if he left for financial reasons, it would make sense. If the Texans offer to pay him top GM level money & the Pats throw the same or close to it for less of a job well yeah, man. No brainer.

Adam Seward · Jun 8, 2019

Deus Irae said:
Nah

Their problems started when Schaub collapsed as an NFL starter and Kubiak's medical problems hit after that. They went from 12-4 to 2-14. That was in 2013. Smith wasn't gone until 2017. In between, it was 9-7 three straight seasons, as they tried to find a QB. They went 11-5 last season, and won their division.

If Watson is the real deal, the injuries to the best players stop, and the drafting/FA doesn't suck, the Texans will be good and competitive, in a suddenly strong AFCS.

My bad man, I didn’t think anyone would take that serious. The Texans are a joke through and through.

Deus Irae · Jun 8, 2019

Adam Seward said:
My bad man, I didn’t think anyone would take that serious. The Texans are a joke through and through.

Sorry I missed your point.

Smith has defenders, and your post made me think you might be one.

Ivan · Jun 8, 2019

holyredeemer said:
I agree. I’m just saying if he left for financial reasons, it would make sense. If the Texans offer to pay him top GM level money & the Pats throw the same or close to it for less of a job well yeah, man. No brainer.

I don’t believe Caserio is looking at “ less of a job,” I think it’s very clear that he is going to be in charge of all football operations when Belichick steps down, and that’s as good a job as it gets. I’m sure they are compensating him very well, and that compensation will go up markedly when he takes over full control. The Patriots rarely block staff from taking promotions with other team’s, but Caserio is the exception to that tendency. I don’t know if they will block it but I don’t believe Caserio will leave NE.

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