2019 NE CAP SPACE

trueblue81 · Apr 2, 2019

signbabybrady said:
Probably more about making him happy.

He is going to be playing for the Patriots, how much happier can he get?

WaterfallJumper · Apr 2, 2019

TheRainMaker said:
It’s a better deal than signing Trey Flowers long term. He’s a good player, but that contract he got was just horrendous. Bennet, who Flowers’ playing style has been compared to, is the better version of Trey Flowers - just older.

Some on this board drastically overrate Flowers and think the D line is doomed without him. The trade for Bennett was a brilliant move by BB and he will do the exact same things Flowers did.

And others on the board feel as long as the Pats have BB and Brady, they can overcome any loss. Flowers will be the next casualty on that list.

You all year: "Flowers won't get a top tier contract! He doesn't have big sack numbers!"

You now that he's gotten a top contract: "Horrendous contract and you all overrated him anyway."

I suppose you're consistent, but you're not a very accurate judge.

jah · Apr 2, 2019

reamer said:
You all year: "Flowers won't get a top tier contract! He doesn't have big sack numbers!"

You now that he's gotten a top contract: "Horrendous contract and you all overrated him anyway."

I suppose you're consistent, but you're not a very accurate judge.

The Flowers assessment is hyperbolic for sure but it's true that Bennett is better value than Flowers on their respective contracts.

TheRainMaker · Apr 2, 2019

reamer said:
You all year: "Flowers won't get a top tier contract! He doesn't have big sack numbers!"

You now that he's gotten a top contract: "Horrendous contract and you all overrated him anyway."

I suppose you're consistent, but you're not a very accurate judge.

You are right that I said he wouldn’t get a top contract because of his low sack numbers which I admitted I was wrong long ago. It doesn’t mean it’s a good contract which I don’t think it is.

And I didn’t say “you all overrated him”, I said I see “some people have overrated him”.

So you’d rather sign Flowers to that deal he got in Detroit? The Pats obviously didn't agree with that either.

mgteich · Apr 2, 2019

IcyPatriot said:

The signing of Cedric Lang won't affect the cap.

Jimke · Apr 2, 2019

Kraft may need the cap space to pay his lawyers.

SBLIII · May 10, 2019

mgteich · May 10, 2019

Miguel's 2019 salary cap on BSJ has us at $12,064,747 with Ubosi included. BTW, Ubosi's effect is very minimal, only his signing bonus.

SBLIII said:

mgteich · May 18, 2019

We still need to acquire a DT. It does seem that it is time to announce an extension that frees up a bit of cap space.

Miguel shows $3,674,309 of cap space on his 2019 page at BSJ. This includes Collins and Watson, but not Inman (who would have little if any affect on the cap).

Overthgcap has us at $5,128,778 without the following
Watson
Collins
Inman
Harris
Winovich
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Miguel posted here that he will have a extensive analysis once things settle done a bit, including options for creating cap space, and for extending players.

LJRomanoff · May 18, 2019

mgteich said:
Miguel shows $3,674,309 of cap space on his 2019 page at BSJ. This includes Collins and Watson, but not Inman (who would have little if any affect on the cap).

"After projecting Inman's cap hit my new Patriots salary cap space number is now $3,674,309. This number accounts for all ten draft picks and all transactions except the Brandon King extension. Expect latter to increase King's 2019 cap number and slightly decreasing cap space no."

SBLIII · May 18, 2019

May and June are the months for extensions. More will come.

There are still 1-2 restructures that could happen but I think we will see extensions and will create extra room.

SBLIII · May 25, 2019

kennyb · May 26, 2019

If they need cap space, I could see cutting McCourty. Save about 10m. Way too high priced for what he does.

Ice_Ice_Brady · May 26, 2019

kennyb said:
If they need cap space, I could see cutting McCourty. Save about 10m. Way too high priced for what he does.

Maybe McCourty needs to miss a few games so that people can appreciate his importance to the defense. There’s a reason why the Patriots have been one of - if not the - best in the league since 2011 when it comes to avoiding deep passes.

Restructuring may be a good option though.

SBLIII · May 26, 2019

Ice_Ice_Brady said:
Maybe McCourty needs to miss a few games so that people can appreciate his importance to the defense. There’s a reason why the Patriots have been one of - if not the - best in the league since 2011 when it comes to avoiding deep passes.

Restructuring may be a good option though.

He is in his final year. So extending him would be the way to go but then he probably retires after this year so not sure if we want the dead cap.

We probably just let him play on that 13M cap even though it's too much. Cutting won't happen because we can't replace his contributions regardless if we get 10M or not.

Ice_Ice_Brady · May 26, 2019

SBLIII said:
He is in his final year. So extending him would be the way to go but then he probably retires after this year so not sure if we want the dead cap.

We probably just let him play on that 13M cap even though it's too much. Cutting won't happen because we can't replace his contributions regardless if we get 10M or not.

We’ll see if it ends up being his final year. He was clocked at like 22 mph last year on his pick 6, has settled in NE, and is still worth a lot on the market. He’s 31. I get that a lot of players consider retirement after the grind each season, after winning a SB, but on paper his retirement would be more surprising than Gronk. Doesn’t have the injury record and they came in during same draft.

Ring 6 · May 26, 2019

Ice_Ice_Brady said:
Maybe McCourty needs to miss a few games so that people can appreciate his importance to the defense. There’s a reason why the Patriots have been one of - if not the - best in the league since 2011 when it comes to avoiding deep passes.

Restructuring may be a good option though.

Here are some numbers
Since 2011 the patriots are #2 in points allowed.
Since 2014 they are #1.

RobertWeathers · May 26, 2019

AndyJohnson said:
Here are some numbers
Since 2011 the patriots are #2 in points allowed.
Since 2014 they are #1.

Yea but our defense sucks. Points allowed is a meaningless stat.

ALP · May 26, 2019

AndyJohnson said:
Here are some numbers
Since 2011 the patriots are #2 in points allowed.
Since 2014 they are #1.

that doesn't mean it has to do w Devin specifically though!

/s

Uptown · May 26, 2019

ALP said:
that doesn't mean it has to do w Devin specifically though!

/s

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