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One huge underrated aspect about our top picks this year (N'Keal Harry, Joejuan Williams, Damian Harris) is no injury history, seems like all our draft picks or top ones always seemed to have some history of injuries or were injury prone so this is huge.
 
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One huge underrated aspect about our top picks this year (N'Keal Harry, Joejuan Williams, Damian Harris) is no injury history, seems like all our draft picks or top ones always seemed to have some history of injuries or were injury prone so this is huge.

So that history will protect their ankles, ACLs and achilles from someone falling into their feet or their heads from concussions ? Guess that protection didn't work for Bentley last year when he randomly suffered a torn biceps.

It is not underrated. It is mostly irrelevant.
 
So that history will protect their ankles, ACLs and achilles from someone falling into their feet or their heads from concussions ? Guess that protection didn't work for Bentley last year when he randomly suffered a torn biceps.

It is not underrated. It is mostly irrelevant.

It may not be underrated, but I disagree that it's irrelevant. Past injury history (or lack thereof) certainly doesn't guarantee anything either way, but not having significant injuries in their past at least removes some chance of re-injury or compensation injury. I'm not going to say it's a huge boost, but it is nice to not have an Easley situation where you're always thinking, "He's a great talent, BUT..."

Of course, if I'm being pessimistic, I could also look at like this: Usually the reason we target guys with some injury history is because that's one way to get top of the draft talent without having a pick higher than 31/32. So if these guys were still around then, WITHOUT injury history or character concerns, one has to wonder what they do lack that kept them from going in the top half of the first. My answer generally is that, "teams prioritize different things than the Pats do", but still, I said I was trying to be pessimistic for once ;)
 
It was quietly hilarious last year that the rookie with the biggest set of medical red flags was the only one healthy at the end by the season.
 
It was quietly hilarious last year that the rookie with the biggest set of medical red flags was the only one healthy at the end by the season.
I think the most hilarious thing of all is the fact so many people on here have been crying for a decade that BB has left the cupboard bare because of poor drafting.

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It may not be underrated, but I disagree that it's irrelevant. Past injury history (or lack thereof) certainly doesn't guarantee anything either way, but not having significant injuries in their past at least removes some chance of re-injury or compensation injury. I'm not going to say it's a huge boost, but it is nice to not have an Easley situation where you're always thinking, "He's a great talent, BUT..."

You are simply falling into a trap here. Having no injuries in the past has absolutely zero predictive value for the future when it comes to a sport like football. The corollary is that just because someone was injured before there is no reason to think he is likely to suffer the same injury again.

Gronk is the best example. Player who overcame a broken back that made him sit out his entire final college year and went on to a HoF career. People like using this absurd notion of "injury prone" when in reality you could have exchanged him with any other player that had perfect health and he would have suffered the very same injury given the individual situations.

Nobody would have not have a high ankle sprained when Pollard fell into his legs, nobody would have not broken their arm if hit like that on the PAT and above all that Ward hit would have shredded anyones ACL.

As @slam said. Sony the one with the worst medical history ironically was the one left standing last year.
 
Laurence Maroney, Chad Jackson, and Jordan Richards had no injury history either.......I just hope the dudes can play at the pro level
 
I think the most hilarious thing of all is the fact so many people on here have been crying for a decade that BB has left the cupboard bare because of poor drafting.

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it's the amount of attention an offseason shiny metal object gets.....still have to play the games
 
New players joining team and not having to miss any TC due to prior injuries/surgery is a good sign...What happens during Camp and Pre season can't be predicted.....

Crossing fingers for no major injuries to any Patriot players..
 
You are simply falling into a trap here. Having no injuries in the past has absolutely zero predictive value for the future when it comes to a sport like football. The corollary is that just because someone was injured before there is no reason to think he is likely to suffer the same injury again.

Gronk is the best example. Player who overcame a broken back that made him sit out his entire final college year and went on to a HoF career. People like using this absurd notion of "injury prone" when in reality you could have exchanged him with any other player that had perfect health and he would have suffered the very same injury given the individual situations.

Nobody would have not have a high ankle sprained when Pollard fell into his legs, nobody would have not broken their arm if hit like that on the PAT and above all that Ward hit would have shredded anyones ACL.

As @slam said. Sony the one with the worst medical history ironically was the one left standing last year.

I get what you're saying, but I think you're falling into a bit of a trap here too. You're taking individual examples and trying to claim that because they exist, that they disprove an assumption rather than being simply exceptions to that assumption. Admittedly, I don't have any data to reference (and I'm not sure there's an easy way to quantify an argument like this anyway), so it's entirely possible that there is zero correlation between past injury and future injury. I just find that hard to believe in general.

Like I said, the difference may not be huge, but to say it's "not there" just because Gronk and Michel are outliers is a bit simplistic IMO. Not to mention Gronk HAS had numerous back surgeries, while players who came into the league without his history of back problems have not. I don't recall specific plays that caused all of those surgeries to be necessary, so I'm not prepared to say that it would have happened to anyone. I have to believe if that were the case, we'd be seeing more players who play tight end go under the knife for back surgeries routinely.
 
I think the most hilarious thing of all is the fact so many people on here have been crying for a decade that BB has left the cupboard bare because of poor drafting.

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If not for absurd amount of injuries in 2015/2017 we are talking about a 5 peat, it sounds crazy but really that close along with the 3 peat we would of had.
 
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People like using this absurd notion of "injury prone" when in reality you could have exchanged him with any other player that had perfect health and he would have suffered the very same injury given the individual situations.

I used to make the exact same argument re: Amendola and would never hear the end of it from people who thought "injury prone" was an actual thing.
 
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One huge underrated aspect about our top picks this year (N'Keal Harry, Joejuan Williams, Damian Harris) is no injury history, seems like all our draft picks or top ones always seemed to have some history of injuries or were injury prone so this is huge.

Great observation, I hope it was a conscious decision by the draft room.

After all, in prior year's it almost seemed to be a consious decision TO DRAFT INJURY-RIDDLED players knowing that the injury concern created VALUE if the player were to remain healthy.
 
They are also high character guys. Belichick didn’t take any thugs in this draft.
 
It is not underrated. It is mostly irrelevant.

I hear what you are saying, but I don't think injuries are all about luck (or lack there of). Some players have a style of play that makes them prone injuries.

We all made fun of the Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne for 'going down' or 'going out of bounds' when in hindsight perhaps that was probably the best thing they could have done. We love Gronk and Edelamn for their grit and desire to gain that 'extra yard', but it comes at a cost.
 
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