What QB does Stidham compare himself to?

We can only hope.

So we have a QB type.
Im curious why the Brisset pick then.
He doesnt fit the Jimmy Or Jarret profile.
Quick conpact release and athletic.
Brissett is more of a Phillip Rivers kind of QB.

Just do your JQB!

BB doesn't draft QBs based on skills or need, he drafts them based on looks TB, Jimmy G, Bledsoe, Zo Stidham is just the latest in the long line of GQ worthy QBs

ChrisR2223 said:

So we have a QB type.
Im curious why the Brisset pick then.
He doesnt fit the Jimmy Or Jarret profile.
Quick conpact release and athletic.
Brissett is more of a Phillip Rivers kind of QB.

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Brissett was found by Parcells who in no hyperbole compared his personality and intangibles to Bruschi, Troy Brown, Curtis Martin, and McGinest. Really great kid and leader.

I got ill at the "I was a big Peyton Manning fan" comment and never recovered

Can not teach pocket presence. Either have it by the time of the draft or don't. Yes Stidham is good looking and he may be a decent back up, but he is NOT Brady's replacement and never will be.

Chevrolet said:

Can not teach pocket presence and courage. Either have it by the time of the draft or don't. Yes Stidham is good looking and he may be a decent back up, but he is NOT Brady's replacement and never will be.

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Interesting take.

SBLIII said:

Interesting take.

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Considering we haven’t even opened up camp yet.

Chevrolet said:

Can not teach pocket presence and courage. Either have it by the time of the draft or don't. Yes Stidham is good looking and he may be a decent back up, but he is NOT Brady's replacement and never will be.

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Id pay a dollar for your archive take on Brady's pick on that fine April 16th 2000.
Maybe two.

I dont know who produced this video but its got a creepy vibe to it. Reminds me of those amateur porn video interviews before they do the deed.

long distance said:

Id pay a dollar for your archive take on Brady's pick on that fine April 16th 2000.
Maybe two.

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I didnt think anything of Brady til the first training camp the remarks from Patriots weekly was if you didnt know any better you would think this was Tom's team.
From that point I was on notice.

The kid is accurate, throws downfield, protects from unnecessary INT's, and throws beautiful spirals. He's the best QB prospect we've brought in under BB's tenure after Jimmy G, he doesn't have to be the next Brady, he needs to learn from Tom and bulk up a little.

The presumption he isn't the QB of the future isn't a very good take, he has as good a chance as anyone and was a great value where he was drafted. His surrounding cast sucking last year was to our benefit.

long distance said:

Id pay a dollar for your archive take on Brady's pick on that fine April 16th 2000.
Maybe two.

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I'd never question anyone's courage. That might be over the top.

That said if you actually watched Stidham play (assuming you have & did again when he was drafted) there's nothing wrong w saying he had trouble in terms of pocket presence/pressure at times.
It's not breaking news & goes back to 2017.

There's a lot to like about Stidham. I gave him a 3rd & actually really like him but beung honest about his concerns/flaws, w/e you want to call it isn't a bad thing at all.

Now again that poster was a lil much but we should be able to have an honest talk about a prospect in terms of both sides of the arguement.

Definitely a PTP from last year
(PTP) Jarrett Stidham QB/Auburn – "Transfer from Baylor. At times Stidham looked like a poised, accurate QB who would let a play develop and deliver a strike on time. Mechanically looks comfortable, feet/base are about shoulder length. Has some zip and a quick release. Looks the part. Has some arm talent. He also has some wheels to eat up unaccounted for yards. He’ll look to build on that momentum and could make a huge jump in Gus Malzahn’s offense. He’s very smart w/ + football IQ. He’s accurate but could work on throwing his wr’s open a little better. Mobile & tough. Stidham has to improve his pocket awareness as well but he has plenty of tools to work w/".

Regarding his pocket presence, how he dealt w pressure etc..
It should be noted Jimmy & Carr fwiw both had issues handling pressure in college as well. Not what you want to hear but its something that one can improve upon.
Even now you'll see Jimmy fight it but hes absolutely got better.

He's in as good a situation as there is for QB's in the NFL imo. People like to sh/t on the guys we drafted but they all still make a ton of money playing QB even if some are backups. Same goes for the coaches/fo types.

Anyway Stidham landed in the best possible spot there is. Easily one of the best staffs in football. Watching Brady up close. Exposed to the culture. I'm sure hes very happy even though he expected to go higher.

Go back and watch Stidham's sophomore year, last year his best WR tore his ACL before the season and they were initiating 5 new offensive linemen.

I don't want to rain on Stidham's parade, and he's welcome to compare himself to anyone he wants. But, here's the reality of being taken as the #7, or later, QB in a draft. Since the Brady year, here's what you can expect:

2001:
Jesse Palmer, Mike McMahaon, A.J. Feeley, Josh Booty, Josh Heupel

2002:
Randy Fasani, Kurt Kittner, Brandon Noman, Craig Nall, J.T. O'Sullivan, Steve Bellisari, Seth Burford, Jeff Kelly, Ronald Curry, Wes Pate

2003:
Seneca Wallace, Brian St. Pierre, Drew Henson, Brooks, Bollinger, Kliff Kingsbury, Gibran Hamdan, Ken Dorsey

2004:
Craig Krenzell, Andy Hall, Josh Harris, Jim Sorgi, Jeff Smoker, John Navarre, Cody Pickett, Casey Bramlet, Matt Mauck, B.J. Symons, Bradlee Van Pelt

2005:
Kyle Orton, Stefan Lefors, Dan Orlovsky, Adrian McPherson, Derek Anderson, James Kilian, Matt Cassel, Ryan Fitzpatrick

2006:
Brodie Croyle, Ingle Martin, Omar Jacobs, Reggie McNeal, Bruce Gradkowski, D.J. Shockley

2007:
Isaiah Stanback, Jeff Rowe, Troy Smith, Jordan Palmer, Tyler Thigpen

2008:
Dennis Dixon, Josh Johnson, Erik Ainge, Colt Brennan, Andre Woodson, Matt Flynn, Alex Brink

2009:
Nate Davis, Tom Brandstater, Mike Teel, Keith Null, Curtis Painter

2010:
Jonathan Crompton, Rusty Smith, Dan LaFevour, Joe Webb, Tony Pike, Levi Brown, Sean Canfield, Zac Robinson

2011:
Ryan Mallett, Ricky Stanzi, T.J. Yates, Nathan Enderle, Tyrod Taylor, Greg McElroy

2012:
Nick Foles, Kirk Cousins, Ryan Lindley, B.J. Coleman, Chandler Harnish

2013:
Landry Jones, Brad Sorensen, Zac Dysert, B.J. Daniels, Sean Renfree

2014:
Tom Savage, Aaron Murray, A.J. McCarron, Zach Mettenberger, David Fales, Keith Wenning, Tajh Boyd, Garrett Gilbert

2015:
Trevor Semian

2016:
Connor Cook, Dak Prescott, Cardale Jones, Kevin Hogan, Nate Sudfeld, Jake Rudock, Brandon Allen, Jeff Driskel, Brandon Doughty

2017:
Joshua Dubbs, Nathan Peterman, Brad Kaaya, Chad Kelly

2018:
Kyle Lauletta, Mike White, Luke Falk, Tanner Lee, Danny Etling, Alex McGough, Logan Woodside

DraftHistory.com

Chevrolet said:

Can not teach pocket presence and courage. Either have it by the time of the draft or don't. Yes Stidham is good looking and he may be a decent back up, but he is NOT Brady's replacement and never will be.

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Definition of a hot take, they haven't even started OTAs yet. But thanks for the outlook, might as well cut him now.

Chevrolet said:

Can not teach pocket presence and courage. Either have it by the time of the draft or don't. Yes Stidham is good looking and he may be a decent back up, but he is NOT Brady's replacement and never will be.

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At certain times in his career, Brady himself has received criticism for appearing too jumpy under a strong pass rush.

Deus Irae said:

I don't want to rain on Stidham's parade, and he's welcome to compare himself to anyone he wants. But, here's the reality of being taken as the #7, or later, QB in a draft. Since the Brady year, here's what you can expect:

2001:
Jesse Palmer, Mike McMahaon, A.J. Feeley, Josh Booty, Josh Heupel

2002:
Randy Fasani, Kurt Kittner, Brandon Noman, Craig Nall, J.T. O'Sullivan, Steve Bellisari, Seth Burford, Jeff Kelly, Ronald Curry, Wes Pate

2003:
Seneca Wallace, Brian St. Pierre, Drew Henson, Brooks, Bollinger, Kliff Kingsbury, Gibran Hamdan, Ken Dorsey

2004:
Craig Krenzell, Andy Hall, Josh Harris, Jim Sorgi, Jeff Smoker, John Navarre, Cody Pickett, Casey Bramlet, Matt Mauck, B.J. Symons, Bradlee Van Pelt

2005:
Kyle Orton, Stefan Lefors, Dan Orlovsky, Adrian McPherson, Derek Anderson, James Kilian, Matt Cassel, Ryan Fitzpatrick

2006:
Brodie Croyle, Ingle Martin, Omar Jacobs, Reggie McNeal, Bruce Gradkowski, D.J. Shockley

2007:
Isaiah Stanback, Jeff Rowe, Troy Smith, Jordan Palmer, Tyler Thigpen

2008:
Dennis Dixon, Josh Johnson, Erik Ainge, Colt Brennan, Andre Woodson, Matt Flynn, Alex Brink

2009:
Nate Davis, Tom Brandstater, Mike Teel, Keith Null, Curtis Painter

2010:
Jonathan Crompton, Rusty Smith, Dan LaFevour, Joe Webb, Tony Pike, Levi Brown, Sean Canfield, Zac Robinson

2011:
Ryan Mallett, Ricky Stanzi, T.J. Yates, Nathan Enderle, Tyrod Taylor, Greg McElroy

2012:
Nick Foles, Kirk Cousins, Ryan Lindley, B.J. Coleman, Chandler Harnish

2013:
Landry Jones, Brad Sorensen, Zac Dysert, B.J. Daniels, Sean Renfree

2014:
Tom Savage, Aaron Murray, A.J. McCarron, Zach Mettenberger, David Fales, Keith Wenning, Tajh Boyd, Garrett Gilbert

2015:
Trevor Semian

2016:
Connor Cook, Dak Prescott, Cardale Jones, Kevin Hogan, Nate Sudfeld, Jake Rudock, Brandon Allen, Jeff Driskel, Brandon Doughty

2017:
Joshua Dubbs, Nathan Peterman, Brad Kaaya, Chad Kelly

2018:
Kyle Lauletta, Mike White, Luke Falk, Tanner Lee, Danny Etling, Alex McGough, Logan Woodside

DraftHistory.com

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Remind me who was the #7 QB taken in the 2000 draft?
Jusat curious.